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Marf
22,907 posts
110 months
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Munter said: TBB I'd give up. The mob mentality of General Gassing has spoken, and they are no longer interested in what you actually said. But what a few thought you said. Excuse me. I take issue with this. I'm part of the NPE Mob, thank you very much.
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TheHeretic
68,042 posts
124 months
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 If you say so Munter. We k ow what he is saying, we just don't agree with him. The parents are more than welcome to have whatever opinion they want, however, when they start projecting that matter of opinion on their kid, (who is old enough for have sexual relationships, etc), they were wrong. It is not a case of 'don't bring anyone home and have sex' it is 'don't date a black man, at all'. It is not about house rules, it is about simple racism, and the girl is seemingly being blamed for not being racist, and not following her parents racist wishes.
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TallbutBuxomly
11,948 posts
85 months
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Munter said: Wow. Just Wow. Some of you guys really need to learn to read AND comprehend.
TBB has a valid point. It's the same as "I do not agree with his opinion. But I'll fight to defend his right to express it."
TBB has never agreed with the beating or the parent opinions as far as I can see. Instead said the parents should have simply laid down the rules for living under their roof and if she didn't like them should have left/been thrown out and NOT beaten.
The rest of the braying mob on here are too busy throwing pitch forks around to read properly it seems.
The parents are allowed to hold any opinion they like, and have any rules they like for what happens inside their house. So long as they stay within the law (which they didn't).
TBB I'd give up. The mob mentality of General Gassing has spoken, and they are no longer interested in what you actually said. But what a few thought you said. Munter glad you actually get my point but be careful. I am often quite controversial on here for trying to put across a little common sense you don't want to get lumped in as being a Tbb supporter. The forum members will probably claim you have chem weapons or WMD's and get the US to invade your home. 
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DWP
1,199 posts
84 months
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TallbutBuxomly said: Munter said: Wow. Just Wow. Some of you guys really need to learn to read AND comprehend.
TBB has a valid point. It's the same as "I do not agree with his opinion. But I'll fight to defend his right to express it."
TBB has never agreed with the beating or the parent opinions as far as I can see. Instead said the parents should have simply laid down the rules for living under their roof and if she didn't like them should have left/been thrown out and NOT beaten.
The rest of the braying mob on here are too busy throwing pitch forks around to read properly it seems.
The parents are allowed to hold any opinion they like, and have any rules they like for what happens inside their house. So long as they stay within the law (which they didn't).
TBB I'd give up. The mob mentality of General Gassing has spoken, and they are no longer interested in what you actually said. But what a few thought you said. Munter glad you actually get my point but be careful. I am often quite controversial on here for trying to put across a little common sense you don't want to get lumped in as being a Tbb supporter. The forum members will probably claim you have chem weapons or WMD's and get the US to invade your home. Your earlier post in regard to "their house their rules" disregarded the fact that the second attack took place away from their house. They tracked the couple down. That goes way beyond house rules.
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Colonial
9,787 posts
74 months
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DWP said: Your earlier post in regard to "their house their rules" disregarded the fact that the second attack took place away from their house. They tracked the couple down. That goes way beyond house rules. Exactly. And you had a man beating a girl. Unless there is threat of serious physical harm that is never, ever on.
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elvismiggell
904 posts
20 months
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Colonial said: Exactly.
And you had a man beating a girl. Unless there is threat of serious physical harm that is never, ever on. Sexist!!!
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TallbutBuxomly
11,948 posts
85 months
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Colonial said: DWP said: Your earlier post in regard to "their house their rules" disregarded the fact that the second attack took place away from their house. They tracked the couple down. That goes way beyond house rules. Exactly. And you had a man beating a girl. Unless there is threat of serious physical harm that is never, ever on. You will find that on numerous occasions I have made note of that fact and of my opinion that there was a good chance that even if she had moved out her parents may still have attacked her and her hr. I would also point out that I have never nor even alluded to it being ok to hit a female. There is never an excuse for hitting a female unless she is built like Arnie and you are trying to protect yourself.
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Justices
2,345 posts
33 months
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I can't think of any sweeter medicine for a racist than having the person you are prejudice against shag your daughter. The kids will recover from a few clips around the ear and being shouted at. The father however.. long may he replay the moment he walked in on his daughter and her chap, in HD one can only hope.
In all seriousness, yes, respect the rules of the house if it is not your house, no matter how sensible or ignorant the rules may be. Continue with your private life outside the house and do as you please. Just because they are her parents and may be supporting her, that doesn't give them any right to control her private life.
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UnderTheRadar
451 posts
42 months
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FTR I didn't intend any of my posts to imply that TBB condoned violence - he certainly didn't, although I'd add that violence against anyone, not just females, unless in self defence is a no-no for me. My issue was that parents should not be able to set any rules and expect them to be obeyed, especially if they are illegal which racism is. All extreme rules will achieve is ultimately losing any respect from, and any influence over, their children.
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TallbutBuxomly
11,948 posts
85 months
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UnderTheRadar said: FTR I didn't intend any of my posts to imply that TBB condoned violence - he certainly didn't, although I'd add that violence against anyone, not just females, unless in self defence is a no-no for me. My issue was that parents should not be able to set any rules and expect them to be obeyed, especially if they are illegal which racism is. All extreme rules will achieve is ultimately losing any respect from, and any influence over, their children. Absolutely correct. Kids should be allowed to do anything they want and run wild.When they mug a little old lady they should be congratulated and rewarded for their inventiveness.
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Big Fluffy One
112 posts
87 months
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This topic has been around and around and around and around and around and around and around.
I think that:
1. People are arguing for the sake of being argumentative.
2. People are posting without reading the whole thread.
No matter how odious the parents are, it's their house and anyone staying under their roof has two choices...abide by their rules or leave.
It's not difficult. It's not a position that condones violence. It's not a position that accepts their racist views.
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TheHeretic
68,042 posts
124 months
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TallbutBuxomly said: Absolutely correct. Kids should be allowed to do anything they want and run wild.When they mug a little old lady they should be congratulated and rewarded for their inventiveness. 
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Apache
38,246 posts
153 months
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TallbutBuxomly said: UnderTheRadar said: FTR I didn't intend any of my posts to imply that TBB condoned violence - he certainly didn't, although I'd add that violence against anyone, not just females, unless in self defence is a no-no for me. My issue was that parents should not be able to set any rules and expect them to be obeyed, especially if they are illegal which racism is. All extreme rules will achieve is ultimately losing any respect from, and any influence over, their children. Absolutely correct. Kids should be allowed to do anything they want and run wild.When they mug a little old lady they should be congratulated and rewarded for their inventiveness. This from a guy who considers himself more mature than most
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TallbutBuxomly
11,948 posts
85 months
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Apache said: TallbutBuxomly said: UnderTheRadar said: FTR I didn't intend any of my posts to imply that TBB condoned violence - he certainly didn't, although I'd add that violence against anyone, not just females, unless in self defence is a no-no for me. My issue was that parents should not be able to set any rules and expect them to be obeyed, especially if they are illegal which racism is. All extreme rules will achieve is ultimately losing any respect from, and any influence over, their children. Absolutely correct. Kids should be allowed to do anything they want and run wild.When they mug a little old lady they should be congratulated and rewarded for their inventiveness. This from a guy who considers himself more mature than most Maybe I was misreading but the jist of his post was that parents should not be allowed to set rules for their kids ESPECIALLY if they are illegal or racist.
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UnderTheRadar
451 posts
42 months
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TallbutBuxomly said: Apache said: TallbutBuxomly said: UnderTheRadar said: FTR I didn't intend any of my posts to imply that TBB condoned violence - he certainly didn't, although I'd add that violence against anyone, not just females, unless in self defence is a no-no for me. My issue was that parents should not be able to set any rules and expect them to be obeyed, especially if they are illegal which racism is. All extreme rules will achieve is ultimately losing any respect from, and any influence over, their children. Absolutely correct. Kids should be allowed to do anything they want and run wild.When they mug a little old lady they should be congratulated and rewarded for their inventiveness. This from a guy who considers himself more mature than most Maybe I was misreading but the jist of his post was that parents should not be allowed to set rules for their kids ESPECIALLY if they are illegal or racist. Hmm, perhaps a niaively worded post of mine given the suceptibility to selective bolding. I meant any as in anything they felt like - not any as in none. I mentioned in an earlier post in this thread that I am a great fan of house rules - reasonableness (sp?) is key though.
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TallbutBuxomly
11,948 posts
85 months
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UnderTheRadar said: TallbutBuxomly said: Apache said: TallbutBuxomly said: UnderTheRadar said: FTR I didn't intend any of my posts to imply that TBB condoned violence - he certainly didn't, although I'd add that violence against anyone, not just females, unless in self defence is a no-no for me. My issue was that parents should not be able to set any rules and expect them to be obeyed, especially if they are illegal which racism is. All extreme rules will achieve is ultimately losing any respect from, and any influence over, their children. Absolutely correct. Kids should be allowed to do anything they want and run wild.When they mug a little old lady they should be congratulated and rewarded for their inventiveness. This from a guy who considers himself more mature than most Maybe I was misreading but the jist of his post was that parents should not be allowed to set rules for their kids ESPECIALLY if they are illegal or racist. Hmm, perhaps a niaively worded post of mine given the suceptibility to selective bolding. I meant any as in anything they felt like - not any as in none. I mentioned in an earlier post in this thread that I am a great fan of house rules - reasonableness (sp?) is key though. And I was a little churlish in my response for which I apologise. However many people seem to have no idea about parenting and seem to think you can just let kids get away with anything and it severely pisses me off. Her parents as her legal guardians to begin with are perfectly entitled in law to ask and expect her to follow any rules they so wish stupid though you and others on here may feel them to be. Her parents are very much entitled to enforce rules that state what she can and cannot do under the roof which they provide for her. As has been said numerous times if she doesnt like the rules she is free to leave. Until such time as she does so however she is obliged to follow the rules or face any action in place for breaking them. Obviously in this case the actions were disproportionate to the offence in that her parents physically attacked her.
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TheHeretic
68,042 posts
124 months
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Who on earth is saying that kids should be allowed to do anything?
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pocty
271 posts
148 months
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I've been following this thread and the gist of it is that TTB is proud to be rascist.
He talks about respect and can't even respect a race that he dosent even know...End of.
I suppose racism breads racism, or you'll get dragged by your hair and punched in the face.
Gwad help us.
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elvismiggell
904 posts
20 months
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pocty said: I've been following this thread and the gist of it is that TTB is proud to be rascist.
He talks about respect and can't even respect a race that he dosent even know...End of.
I suppose racism breads racism, or you'll get dragged by your hair and punched in the face.
Gwad help us. Apparently I've been reading a different thread. I wouldn't say I agree with everything TBB has said but I do understand the point I think he's trying to make. Pretty sure he's not saying it's ok to be racist though. I don't think anyone on this thread is trying to claim that. Nor does anyone appear to be claiming that what the parents did was in any way acceptable. The debate seems to be does the girl bear any responsibility for provocation, or is that offset by the sheer absurdity of her parents views? Frankly I think there's a much deeper debate to be had away from this particular incident about received wisdom and the changing views of society of acceptable behaviour and opinions and at what point society is allowed to inflict them on others.
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