Give her a job now? Not I, not for all the tea in China

Give her a job now? Not I, not for all the tea in China

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andymadmak

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14,662 posts

271 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Belper-woman-s-s...

Lied, cost her employer £300k in defending against her lies. And she's still whingeing

And some people on here wonder why bosses think employment laws need changing...

hesnotthemessiah

2,121 posts

205 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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I would......


judge Don't sue me....

Digga

40,439 posts

284 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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anonymous said:
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Rather like GPs who issue sick notes and whiplash diagnoses like confetti, the companies that roll over have created a sub-culture of parasites.

As you say, it's nice to see a large employer take the time and care to prepare a proper defence.

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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She'll whinge a bit more when she has her home repossessed.

johnfm

13,668 posts

251 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Well, nobody but her and the guys she claims 'touched her knee' and 'referred to breasts as assets' will know the truth.

Case of he said/she said with no evidence. She did herself no favours by not agreeing to a competency assesment for other jobs. So she has created her own downfall in that regard.

Employers 1 - Employees 8,862


Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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I've been to Belper, I'm amazed she even knows the word discrimination exists.

turbobloke

104,291 posts

261 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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johnfm said:
Well, nobody but her and the guys she claims 'touched her knee' and 'referred to breasts as assets' will know the truth.
If so, that remark was simply out of order.

Everybody knows that in the workplace breasts are referred to as performance indicators not assets.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Digga said:
anonymous said:
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Rather like GPs who issue sick notes and whiplash diagnoses like confetti, the companies that roll over have created a sub-culture of parasites.

As you say, it's nice to see a large employer take the time and care to prepare a proper defence.
Whilst I agree about the GP bit, Government and Lawyers have done far more to engender parasitical behaviour than any employer has.

In this case, I hope they bankrupt her in seeking recovery of their costs. That would be a timely message, albeit too little, too late.


thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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So they are threatening to sieze her assets

Oh dear smile

spaximus

4,241 posts

254 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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It must have been a hell of a complicated case to reach that level of expense. I do hop they go after her for this as it may well make others think long and hard before going on a fishing exercise for money.

Mobile Chicane

20,870 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Any woman who works in an all-male dominated environment has to expect a bit of joshing and banter.

However the way to deal with it is to take in good humour, and moreover give as good as you get - not run screeching to HR.

WhereamI

6,887 posts

218 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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johnfm said:
Well, nobody but her and the guys she claims 'touched her knee' and 'referred to breasts as assets' will know the truth.

Case of he said/she said with no evidence. She did herself no favours by not agreeing to a competency assesment for other jobs. So she has created her own downfall in that regard.

Employers 1 - Employees 8,862
There is nothing new about employers winning at tribunal, 60% of cases that make it to tribunal are not upheld - in other words the employer is the winner.

The main thing I question is how did they spend £300k defending this? That's totally unnecessary.

s3fella

10,524 posts

188 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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The colleague who touched her knee also "thrust her crotch at her" according to that !!!!

Was it Minjeeta from accounts again?

StephenM44

6,930 posts

252 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Mobile Chicane said:
Any woman who works in an all-male dominated environment has to expect a bit of joshing and banter.

However the way to deal with it is to take in good humour, and moreover give as good as you get - not run screeching to HR.
Sorry but no they don't - it's wrong for anybody to feel intimidated or devalued by their colleagues. Some women are able to laugh it off and good luck to them but for every woman who can, there are 10 more who go home feeling sick, humiliated or depressed. Very few of them bring actions against their employer, most of them never mention it to anybody.

I'm no leftie hand wringer but I absolutely detest men who use derogatory language at work, it's so rude, uncouth and thoughtless.

miniman

25,126 posts

263 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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Although I haven't worked for them myself, I understand that Rolls Royce are an exceptionally good employer. Good on them for standing up to this, I hope they get some money back from the grasping skank.

StephenM44

6,930 posts

252 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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anonymous said:
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You do expect people to be reasonably resilient. Women like these men as just as bad.

ClaphamGT3

11,339 posts

244 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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StephenM44 said:
You do expect people to be reasonably resilient. Women like these men as just as bad.
Except the courts have held that these men were not 'bad'. They have held however that she is a talentless, free-loading charlatan who wanted a meal ticket.

Good for Rolls Royce for standing firm

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

230 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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I should just point out that Tribunals do not always get it right. When it's "he said she said" then two employees who say the same thing, whether it is true or not, trump the one person claiming (without other evidence). So it can be quite difficult to win in some circumstances whether you are in the right or not. Not saying she is, but I just despair when I read people who appear to think that a court gets it right 100% of the time and as she lost at Tribunal she must be a money grabber.