Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 2
Discussion
ViperPict said:
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
But they are planning on spending an ADDITIONAL £35BN+! It is a net COST to Scotland, even taking associated jobs into the equation...
Its called democracyGet used to it
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
Aye. As is voting not to have Trident via a YES vote...
Sadly it looks like for every person that votes YES there will be 2 voting NOSo by that token there are 86% people who would vote NO, adding to a total of 129%. Did you go to the same school as George Osbourne?
ViperPict said:
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
Aye. As is voting not to have Trident via a YES vote...
Sadly it looks like for every person that votes YES there will be 2 voting NOSo by that token there are 86% people who would vote NO, adding to a total of 129%. Did you go to the same school as George Osbourne?
ViperPict said:
TheHeretic said:
Edinburger said:
Can you please explain how scrapping Trident will cost Scotland money?
There is a lot of investment in Faslane, and the rest of the infrastructure in Scotland. Dropping it would remove that investment, and you would get zero percent investment after Independence, due to the stuff being removed from there. ViperPict said:
Last evidence seemed to suggest that 43% of Scots wanted Scottish Parliament to be given all powers... If you believe such things as polls...
So by that token there are 86% people who would vote NO, adding to a total of 129%. Did you go to the same school as George Osbourne?
So by that token there are 86% people who would vote NO, adding to a total of 129%. Did you go to the same school as George Osbourne?
Genuine question.
What would you think that it would do for the YES campaign if the SNP stated at some point prior to the referendum that would effectively disband as a political entity on the outcome of a YES vote, allowing for a full interim coalition to be put into place prior to the first Scottish general election?
ViperPict said:
Genuine question.
What would you think that it would do for the YES campaign if the SNP stated at some point prior to the referendum that would effectively disband as a political entity on the outcome of a YES vote, allowing for a full interim coalition to be put into place prior to the first Scottish general election?
But they won'tWhat would you think that it would do for the YES campaign if the SNP stated at some point prior to the referendum that would effectively disband as a political entity on the outcome of a YES vote, allowing for a full interim coalition to be put into place prior to the first Scottish general election?
They will just wave some flags
I would like it if they disbanded in the event of a no vote as well
ViperPict said:
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
Aye. As is voting not to have Trident via a YES vote...
Sadly it looks like for every person that votes YES there will be 2 voting NOSo by that token there are 86% people who would vote NO, adding to a total of 129%. Did you go to the same school as George Osbourne?
As we aren't going to be given a vote on extra powers.
And even if we are given extra powers do you think that Alex Salomnd has the balls to shut down faslane and turn over 5000 people out of their jobs.
He would bottle that one or blame the english
thinfourth2 said:
okay show me this latest poll that shows 43% want to vote YES to independence
As we aren't going to be given a vote on extra powers.
And even if we are given extra powers do you think that Alex Salomnd has the balls to shut down faslane and turn over 5000 people out of their jobs.
He would bottle that one or blame the english
But Scottish independence and shutting faslane go hand in hand, unless that UK is allowed to keep faslane as some sort of crown dependency in an independent Scotland.As we aren't going to be given a vote on extra powers.
And even if we are given extra powers do you think that Alex Salomnd has the balls to shut down faslane and turn over 5000 people out of their jobs.
He would bottle that one or blame the english
WhereamI said:
But Scottish independence and shutting faslane go hand in hand, unless that UK is allowed to keep faslane as some sort of crown dependency in an independent Scotland.
Ah but VP argues that we can be part of the UK and throw trident out of faslane with these extra powers we are magically going to getthinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
Genuine question.
What would you think that it would do for the YES campaign if the SNP stated at some point prior to the referendum that would effectively disband as a political entity on the outcome of a YES vote, allowing for a full interim coalition to be put into place prior to the first Scottish general election?
But they won'tWhat would you think that it would do for the YES campaign if the SNP stated at some point prior to the referendum that would effectively disband as a political entity on the outcome of a YES vote, allowing for a full interim coalition to be put into place prior to the first Scottish general election?
They will just wave some flags
I would like it if they disbanded in the event of a no vote as well
A NO vote will be the only saviour for the SNP as an entity, ironically.
ViperPict said:
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
Genuine question.
What would you think that it would do for the YES campaign if the SNP stated at some point prior to the referendum that would effectively disband as a political entity on the outcome of a YES vote, allowing for a full interim coalition to be put into place prior to the first Scottish general election?
But they won'tWhat would you think that it would do for the YES campaign if the SNP stated at some point prior to the referendum that would effectively disband as a political entity on the outcome of a YES vote, allowing for a full interim coalition to be put into place prior to the first Scottish general election?
They will just wave some flags
I would like it if they disbanded in the event of a no vote as well
A NO vote will be the only saviour for the SNP as an entity, ironically.
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
Aye. As is voting not to have Trident via a YES vote...
Sadly it looks like for every person that votes YES there will be 2 voting NOSo by that token there are 86% people who would vote NO, adding to a total of 129%. Did you go to the same school as George Osbourne?
As we aren't going to be given a vote on extra powers.
And even if we are given extra powers do you think that Alex Salomnd has the balls to shut down faslane and turn over 5000 people out of their jobs.
He would bottle that one or blame the english
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2207207/Sc...
So much for Salmond's forlorn hope that dumb kids would be his electoral saviours. . . . . .
London424 said:
ViperPict said:
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
Genuine question.
What would you think that it would do for the YES campaign if the SNP stated at some point prior to the referendum that would effectively disband as a political entity on the outcome of a YES vote, allowing for a full interim coalition to be put into place prior to the first Scottish general election?
But they won'tWhat would you think that it would do for the YES campaign if the SNP stated at some point prior to the referendum that would effectively disband as a political entity on the outcome of a YES vote, allowing for a full interim coalition to be put into place prior to the first Scottish general election?
They will just wave some flags
I would like it if they disbanded in the event of a no vote as well
A NO vote will be the only saviour for the SNP as an entity, ironically.
The only powers the Nats really want are over taxation & at that point the rest of the country is going to start to take notice & grumblings of "no representation without taxation" & reviewing Barnett etc etc are going to start happening. If (or rather when) the referendum is lost I can see not only the situation where nothing significant will be gained by the Nats/SNP but also that a number of things that have previously been devolved will be called into question/reviewed & some other general funding stuff & formulas being reviewed into the bargain.
Losing the referendum will significantly weaken the Nats because it will be a positive vote for the Union. That in turn calls into question the whole raison d'etre of the SG. i.e. Exactly why is it needed in the first place?
The Nats may well end up regrettng they stuck their heads up over the parapet in the end.
Edited by Wombat3 on Sunday 7th October 09:05
Edinburger said:
ViperPict said:
Last evidence seemed to suggest that 43% of Scots wanted Scottish Parliament to be given all powers... If you believe such things as polls...
So by that token there are 86% people who would vote NO, adding to a total of 129%. Did you go to the same school as George Osbourne?
So by that token there are 86% people who would vote NO, adding to a total of 129%. Did you go to the same school as George Osbourne?
ALEX SALMOND has been accused of operating a “culture of secrecy” by refusing to give details of his lavish taxpayer-funded trip to watch the Ryder Cup.
The First Minister, who this summer went to the Olympics, Wimbledon and flew to LA for the film premiere of Brave, went to Medinah, Chicago, because Scotland is hosting the Ryder Cup in 2014.
During his trip, the SNP leader and his wife Moira stayed at the five-star Peninsula Hotel, popular with celebrities such as Jay-Z, Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston.
One night in the grand deluxe suite costs £1177, with prices increasing during the event.
Several civil servants are believed to have accompanied the Salmonds on the five-day trip. Scottish Enterprise and VisitScotland staff were also in Chicago.
The Scottish Government refused to tell the Sunday Mail details about the trip, including how much it had cost taxpayers.
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Edinburger said:
ViperPict said:
Last evidence seemed to suggest that 43% of Scots wanted Scottish Parliament to be given all powers... If you believe such things as polls...
So by that token there are 86% people who would vote NO, adding to a total of 129%. Did you go to the same school as George Osbourne?
So by that token there are 86% people who would vote NO, adding to a total of 129%. Did you go to the same school as George Osbourne?
ALEX SALMOND has been accused of operating a “culture of secrecy” by refusing to give details of his lavish taxpayer-funded trip to watch the Ryder Cup.
The First Minister, who this summer went to the Olympics, Wimbledon and flew to LA for the film premiere of Brave, went to Medinah, Chicago, because Scotland is hosting the Ryder Cup in 2014.
During his trip, the SNP leader and his wife Moira stayed at the five-star Peninsula Hotel, popular with celebrities such as Jay-Z, Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston.
One night in the grand deluxe suite costs £1177, with prices increasing during the event.
Several civil servants are believed to have accompanied the Salmonds on the five-day trip. Scottish Enterprise and VisitScotland staff were also in Chicago.
The Scottish Government refused to tell the Sunday Mail details about the trip, including how much it had cost taxpayers.
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dEdited by isoimp on Sunday 7th October 10:08
Edinburger said:
ExcellentWe can see all cars with an engine greater then 2ltr banned
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