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thinfourth2

32,414 posts

100 months

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Edinburger said:
BliarOut said:
Because there would be sufficient time to fully consider the ramifications if it was made public now?
No. Because many people would be bored hearing about it constantly for the next two years.
So we can expect another 23 months 3 weeks and 6 days of flagging waving and a small article hidden away in the back pages of stamp collectors weekly (welsh languauge edition) stating how an independent Scotland will survive on the last day

AstonZagato

5,246 posts

106 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
Edinburger said:
BliarOut said:
Because there would be sufficient time to fully consider the ramifications if it was made public now?
No. Because many people would be bored hearing about it constantly for the next two years.
So why were the Yes campaign so keen on pushing the date back?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

100 months

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AstonZagato said:
So why were the Yes campaign so keen on pushing the date back?
As they know that they can spend a few years reminding everyone about the evil tories

The referendum which will effect scotland for generations into the future will be fought on evens many generations into the past and I think the anti-tory feelings will be whipped up in the coming years.

Wombat3

7,683 posts

102 months

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Edinburger said:
No. Because many people would be bored hearing about it constantly for the next two years.
Clearly there is much to hide then

Pathetic wkers.

Wombat3

7,683 posts

102 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
thinfourth2 said:
The referendum which will effect scotland for generations into the future will be fought on evens many generations into the past and I think the anti-tory feelings will be whipped up in the coming years.
Which, given that England would be an independent Scotland's largest trading partner, and that an Independent Scotland would probably see the Tories into power in RUK for a long, long time, would be extremely short sighted and stupid.

But then "Stupid is as stupid does" wink
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ViperPict

9,909 posts

133 months

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Edinburger said:
isoimp said:
Edinburger said:
Rollin said:
Appropriate for who, Salmond and you nationalists or the whole of Scotland?
Jeez, it's like waiting for a bus. Two retared posts around the same time.



I purposely didnt metion you in the same manure sentence above as your contributions so far are not worth a mention,however since you mentioned "retared " posts. This sums up your intellect, which is just a notch lower than your buddy vip and the " Great Leader ".

Who released a murdering terrorist for his own political importance and managed in the process to disuade tourists from the US who bring much needed money to the Capital city and the name you so follishly mixed with a Mcdonalds to give you an sense of importance . you tt !

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/SNP/95942...


Trying to plant a Turnip heid

Okay, so you're talking about Abdelbaset al-Megrahi. A Scottish statute exists under Scots law which enables the release of any prisoner deemed by medical authorities to have three months or less to live and that's what the then Scottish Secretary of Justice, Kenny MacAskill, followed.

With the benefit of hindsight I agree that his release was proably a mistake. But Mr al-Megrahi isn't the first and certainly won't be the last terminally ill patient to outlive the doctor's expectation.

There's a very different argument around whether he was guilty or a scapegoat.

The rest of your post is just blah, blah, blah...
Westminster have also released some objectionable folk on compassionate grounds. I'm sure it was fine under those circumstances though...

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

100 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
Westminster have also released some objectionable folk on compassionate grounds. I'm sure it was fine under those circumstances though...
No

Just because westminister/holyrood does something stupid doesn't make it okay for holyrood/westminister to do something stupid



But in the case Al whatever his name was I really feel he was innocent but thats another debate

ViperPict

9,909 posts

133 months

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At least part of the issue of how an independent Scotland would be structured is not really a question that the SNP have the right to answer since there is no certainty my any stretch of the imagination that they will be in a position of power post-independence to make those decisions! All they can really honestly come up with are a range of potential options/ scenarios for who the country will be organised. There are, by definition, a lot of uncertainties and it is up to the electorate to decide what direction they want Scotland to take post independence.

ViperPict

9,909 posts

133 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
Westminster have also released some objectionable folk on compassionate grounds. I'm sure it was fine under those circumstances though...
No

Just because westminister/holyrood does something stupid doesn't make it okay for holyrood/westminister to do something stupid



But in the case Al whatever his name was I really feel he was innocent but thats another debate
At least there is something we agree on!

BliarOut

62,423 posts

135 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
At least part of the issue of how an independent Scotland would be structured is not really a question that the SNP have the right to answer since there is no certainty my any stretch of the imagination that they will be in a position of power post-independence to make those decisions! All they can really honestly come up with are a range of potential options/ scenarios for who the country will be organised. There are, by definition, a lot of uncertainties and it is up to the electorate to decide what direction they want Scotland to take post independence.
IF they want independence...

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

100 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
At least part of the issue of how an independent Scotland would be structured is not really a question that the SNP have the right to answer since there is no certainty my any stretch of the imagination that they will be in a position of power post-independence to make those decisions! All they can really honestly come up with are a range of potential options/ scenarios for who the country will be organised. There are, by definition, a lot of uncertainties and it is up to the electorate to decide what direction they want Scotland to take post independence.
So yet again you expect the population of Scotland to vote yes and vote yes with enthusiasm

But you can't tell me exactly what i'm meant to vote yes to


The idea that the first party to govern a independent scotland will build the future of Scotland is frankly scarey as we know it is going to be the scottish conservatives


They will bring maggie back

isoimp

266 posts

74 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
The current crop of SNP's, can afford to buy this drug for their loved ones and they are too concerned with making sure all the druggies get their FREE PRESCRIPTIONS than the less fortunate ladies with certain types of cancer as well as MS sufferers who cannot be given drugs in Scotland to help their lives.

Its a disgrace and all these pillocks that keep trumpeting the virtues of independance are partly to blame for this.

It can only get worse should turnip heid get his devious ways with the help of the " literate illegitimates " who vote for him.

http://www.pharmatimes.com/Article/12-10-09/Scotla...



Edited by isoimp on Tuesday 9th October 15:26

mcdjl

2,529 posts

91 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
At least part of the issue of how an independent Scotland would be structured is not really a question that the SNP have the right to answer since there is no certainty my any stretch of the imagination that they will be in a position of power post-independence to make those decisions! All they can really honestly come up with are a range of potential options/ scenarios for who the country will be organised. There are, by definition, a lot of uncertainties and it is up to the electorate to decide what direction they want Scotland to take post independence.
The independence vote will be in 2014, with a general election held in 2015. The SNP would therefore spend the following 6 months (until probably May 2015) negotiating/starting the set up of the post independent scotland. At this point the new party will emerge and take over since it will be completely scotland focused unlike the SNP/Scottish tories/scottish labour. Or the SNP will disband and the members will go back to the scottish labour/tory parties and one of them will get into power, or they will join the new party and take power that way. Or, more likely in my opinion, the SNP will ride a wave of popularity and win the Scottish general election and get to finish deciding the structure of scotland. If they can old together for the next two years i can well imagine they will hold together for the following 6 months as it will be all their best chances of power. So the SNP will have a major effect on how scotland will look: the next two years will havea big effect on that: the choices that are available now or in 2 years regarding joining the EU/Schengen/currency won't change. Well they might, the Euro could disappear i guess.

Edinburger

5,737 posts

64 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
isoimp said:
The current crop of SNP's, can afford to buy this drug for their loved ones and they are too concerned with making sure all the druggies get their FREE PRESCRIPTIONS than the less fortunate ladies with certain types of cancer as well as MS sufferers who cannot be given drugs in Scotland to help their lives.

Its a disgrace and all these pillocks that keep trumpeting the virtues of independance are partly to blame for this.

It can only get worse should turnip heid get his devious ways with the help of the " literate illegitimates " who vote for him.

http://www.pharmatimes.com/Article/12-10-09/Scotla...



Edited by isoimp on Tuesday 9th October 15:26
Is whatever you're on legal?

Edinburger

5,737 posts

64 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
isoimp said:
The current crop of SNP's, can afford to buy this drug for their loved ones and they are too concerned with making sure all the druggies get their FREE PRESCRIPTIONS than the less fortunate ladies with certain types of cancer as well as MS sufferers who cannot be given drugs in Scotland to help their lives.

Its a disgrace and all these pillocks that keep trumpeting the virtues of independance are partly to blame for this.

It can only get worse should turnip heid get his devious ways with the help of the " literate illegitimates " who vote for him.

http://www.pharmatimes.com/Article/12-10-09/Scotla...



Edited by isoimp on Tuesday 9th October 15:26
Is whatever you're on legal?

Rollin

3,571 posts

141 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
Support for independence dropping even further, down to 28%. Will only get worse for Salmond when the courts force him to stop hiding information.

http://m.scotsman.com/news/scottish-independence-n...

Edinburger

5,737 posts

64 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
ViperPict said:
At least part of the issue of how an independent Scotland would be structured is not really a question that the SNP have the right to answer since there is no certainty my any stretch of the imagination that they will be in a position of power post-independence to make those decisions! All they can really honestly come up with are a range of potential options/ scenarios for who the country will be organised. There are, by definition, a lot of uncertainties and it is up to the electorate to decide what direction they want Scotland to take post independence.
That's a good point.

simoid

14,468 posts

54 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
Quite disappointed in people who waste time and energy worrying about how to organise and independent Scotland. You'd be as well organising a Martian government.

Bill Hill's offer 7/1 for independence by 2020. Classic case of 'put a fiver on, and you'll get 0 back'.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

100 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
simoid said:
Quite disappointed in people who waste time and energy worrying about how to organise and independent Scotland. You'd be as well organising a Martian government.

Bill Hill's offer 7/1 for independence by 2020. Classic case of 'put a fiver on, and you'll get 0 back'.
Well lets see if anyone from the YES side is brave enough to put their money where their mouth is?

isoimp

266 posts

74 months

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Tuesday 9th October 2012 quote quote all
Edinburger said:
ViperPict said:
At least part of the issue of how an independent Scotland would be structured is not really a question that the SNP have the right to answer since there is no certainty my any stretch of the imagination that they will be in a position of power post-independence to make those decisions! All they can really honestly come up with are a range of potential options/ scenarios for who the country will be organised. There are, by definition, a lot of uncertainties and it is up to the electorate to decide what direction they want Scotland to take post independence.
That's a good point.



A pair of numpties with the Burger fairy hanging on to every rant made by vip who seems to be " The Great leaders " alias turnip heids greatest fan.

I wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt have this photo on his bedroom wall.






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