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Wombat3
5,135 posts
75 months
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ViperPict said: Wombat3 said: ViperPict said: Not significantly different prosperity likely. Freedom - depends on what us Scots want after independence. The fundamental issue for me is that I believe that better decisions will be made for Scotland when only Scotland needs to be considered. In national (UK) policy, Scotland's issues are only considered to a small degree. That's the only real issue. It's a 'no-brainer' for me. But as usual you fail to articulate anything (indeed not one single thing - EVER) that is so different in respect of what Scotland needs (versus the rest of the UK) and nor anything to explain why , how & where it is so constrained today & exactly what it is that can't be achieved under the current situation Flag waving & face paint is therefore all that is left - as usual.  Never waived a flag in my life. It's the 'meme' of this thread, isn't it? LOL The point I make is quite clearly stated. It's very simple so that you can understand it.  You have no point, and that is the point. You can provide no evidence or information to support your "point" or position save for bulls  t and fairy dust as usual. (Lack of face painting denial to accompany flag waving denial also duly noted  )
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martin84
5,366 posts
22 months
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simoid said: We have some lovely driving roads  I went in a rented f king Renault.
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simoid
8,311 posts
27 months
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martin84 said: simoid said: We have some lovely driving roads I went in a rented f king Renault. Glad to see you got into the spirit of the Auld Alliance, then!
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TheHeretic
67,886 posts
124 months
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Edinburger said: TheHeretic said: Edinburger said: I was being sarcastic So you had no point to make... At all... Gotcha.  Pot and kettle springs to mind Quite the contrary. However, it seems you sometimes use a magic 8-ball when replying, as what goes in doesn't seem to affect what comes out.
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thinfourth2
23,536 posts
73 months
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ViperPict said: This is not the way of things though. Things sort themselves out into an efficient state. Beautifully complex non-linear process but amazingly simple. Peace man. So why hasn't the UK economy settled into this efficient state? Is it the McForce?
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321freeflow
104 posts
90 months
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Ha Ha! Haven't visited this thread for a while and the Tartan Troll known as VP is still jerking your chain TF! You need to relax man, there won't be a Yes vote. There was never any great appetite for Independence before the SNP got into power and there isn't any now - even amongst 16-17yr olds. The only reason the hee-drum-ho brigade got in was because Scottish Labour were complacent and no-one votes Tory up here any more.
Fat Alex, with his obsession for wind farms and the SG overturning local planners' refusals for them is alienating his core vote on a grand scale - almost like he knows he's going to lose his Independence vote. We don't want Devo-max - our politicians are even more stupid/wasteful than the Westminster clowns.
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mcdjl
1,604 posts
64 months
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thinfourth2 said: So why hasn't the UK economy settled into this efficient state?
Is it the McForce? Some might say.... 412.laxallstars.com/files/2011/07/Brown.jpeg
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ViperPict
8,424 posts
106 months
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thinfourth2 said: ViperPict said: This is not the way of things though. Things sort themselves out into an efficient state. Beautifully complex non-linear process but amazingly simple. Peace man. So why hasn't the UK economy settled into this efficient state? Is it the McForce? Given time, it will. Although Mr 110% ain't helping!
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ViperPict
8,424 posts
106 months
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321freeflow said: Ha Ha! Haven't visited this thread for a while and the Tartan Troll known as VP is still jerking your chain TF! You need to relax man, there won't be a Yes vote. There was never any great appetite for Independence before the SNP got into power and there isn't any now - even amongst 16-17yr olds. The only reason the hee-drum-ho brigade got in was because Scottish Labour were complacent and no-one votes Tory up here any more.
Fat Alex, with his obsession for wind farms and the SG overturning local planners' refusals for them is alienating his core vote on a grand scale - almost like he knows he's going to lose his Independence vote. We don't want Devo-max - our politicians are even more stupid/wasteful than the Westminster clowns. You are Donald Trump, aren't you?
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321freeflow
104 posts
90 months
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ViperPict said: You are Donald Trump, aren't you? If you're Alex Salmond, yes.
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BliarOut
53,472 posts
108 months
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ViperPict said: simoid said: ViperPict said: Not significantly different prosperity likely. Freedom - depends on what us Scots want after independence. The fundamental issue for me is that I believe that better decisions will be made for Scotland when only Scotland needs to be considered. In national (UK) policy, Scotland's issues are only considered to a small degree. That's the only real issue. It's a 'no-brainer' for me. Well my beliefs are the polar opposite to yours. Who'd've thunk it!? I think we'll be significantly less prosperous out of the UK, and I'm sure you're aware of the arguments for this case. We might even be backed into corners by financial hardship that the UK economy, Bank of England, and so on protect us from just now, or into other corners by the EU to join the Euro... I'm not convinced we'll have many options! But still, at least they'll be our problems, and nobody else's. This is not the way of things though. Things sort themselves out into an efficient state. Beautifully complex non-linear process but amazingly simple. Peace man. Tell that to the Greeks...
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thinfourth2
23,536 posts
73 months
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ViperPict said: thinfourth2 said: ViperPict said: This is not the way of things though. Things sort themselves out into an efficient state. Beautifully complex non-linear process but amazingly simple. Peace man. So why hasn't the UK economy settled into this efficient state? Is it the McForce? Given time, it will. Although Mr 110% ain't helping! So we could of carried on with labours borrow borrow and borrow a bit more to pay off the borrowing and everything would be fine I'll give you one thing You certainly don't understand money But I think the underlying principle of what you are going on about is actually right. If left to its own devices the economy would settle out fine. Sadly we have these people called politicians who f k the whole thing up. So if we could have an independant scotland without the Scottish government i'd probably say YES
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Guam
15,258 posts
137 months
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thinfourth2 said: So why hasn't the UK economy settled into this efficient state?
Is it the McForce? More like the McSlurry
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groak
3,254 posts
48 months
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simoid
8,311 posts
27 months
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groak said: Looks a bit Unionist to me... 
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groak
3,254 posts
48 months
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simoid said: groak said: Looks a bit Unionist to me... Excuse me, are you trying to say us racist sectarian bigoted unionists don't get a say too??
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simoid
8,311 posts
27 months
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groak said: simoid said: groak said: Looks a bit Unionist to me... Excuse me, are you trying to say us racist sectarian bigoted unionists don't get a say too?? That's silly talk, away back to hiding in a corner after a poor result against (insert random mediocre football team).
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groak
3,254 posts
48 months
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simoid said: That's silly talk, away back to hiding in a corner after a poor result against (insert random mediocre football team). ....Wales??
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ViperPict
8,424 posts
106 months
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Wombat3 said: ViperPict said: Wombat3 said: ViperPict said: Not significantly different prosperity likely. Freedom - depends on what us Scots want after independence. The fundamental issue for me is that I believe that better decisions will be made for Scotland when only Scotland needs to be considered. In national (UK) policy, Scotland's issues are only considered to a small degree. That's the only real issue. It's a 'no-brainer' for me. But as usual you fail to articulate anything (indeed not one single thing - EVER) that is so different in respect of what Scotland needs (versus the rest of the UK) and nor anything to explain why , how & where it is so constrained today & exactly what it is that can't be achieved under the current situation Flag waving & face paint is therefore all that is left - as usual. Never waived a flag in my life. It's the 'meme' of this thread, isn't it? LOL The point I make is quite clearly stated. It's very simple so that you can understand it. You have no point, and that is the point. You can provide no evidence or information to support your "point" or position save for bulls t and fairy dust as usual. (Lack of face painting denial to accompany flag waving denial also duly noted ) What evidence do you want for my fundamental belief? I can guarantee you that I believe it! 
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ViperPict
8,424 posts
106 months
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321freeflow said: ViperPict said: You are Donald Trump, aren't you? If you're Alex Salmond, yes. Not AS's greatest fan...
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