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Welshbeef
Original Poster
13,037 posts
67 months
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Heard it on the radio that for developers social housing that makes sense and I understand that.
However the bit I'm interested in is the planning for individual housing extensions is being "relaxed".
What does that mean specifically?
Clearly we have an ambition for an extension so if it's now easier we'd like to know what's been made easier and is it for a short period of time or time bound or permanent ? So that we can benefit out of this if possible.
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993AL
1,368 posts
87 months
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Blue62
1,391 posts
21 months
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From what I've read you can build a 5m extension on a semi and 8m on a detached without recourse to the planners. It's the latest in a long line of ideas that don't work to get the economy moving, while simultaneously making those idiotic public sector meddling planners redundant. Alternatively we could boost the economy by spending more on Pasties now they've relaxed the VAT. The choice is yours.
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Fartomatic5000
290 posts
24 months
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It sounds like a recipe for disaster resulting in deteriorating neighbour relations across the country.
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Welshbeef
Original Poster
13,037 posts
67 months
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Blue62 said: From what I've read you can build a 5m extension on a semi and 8m on a detached without recourse to the planners. It's the latest in a long line of ideas that don't work to get the economy moving, while simultaneously making those idiotic public sector meddling planners redundant. Alternatively we could boost the economy by spending more on Pasties now they've relaxed the VAT. The choice is yours. So say I have a detached garage currently and want a two story extension with correct tiled roof not flat roof is that now doable, Basically turning three bed into five double bed with wider garage plus much bigger kitchen Or turning a three large double bed into a four large double bed with big bathroom.
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thinfourth2
23,520 posts
73 months
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Lets be honest
Its a terrible idea as it will result in gardens throughout the england being turned into ugly grey boxes.
Yes planning needed a rocket up its arse but not this as i can't see it resulting in a sudden outbreak of fantastic buildings.
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Steve Zodiac
314 posts
12 months
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Probably a wheeze to retrospectively 'allow' the many thousands of illegal shanty extensions & 'Summer' houses already built in, ahem' 'certain' areas at the same time appealing to the voters there. After all where else can the illegals live and pay cash rent if not in their cousins gardens?
If the Government were serious about kick starting things for smaller builders why not just make all building work VAT 0% rated for a fixed period (as New Build already is)
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Gogoplata
477 posts
29 months
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I'm in the process of looking to get a garage built so I'm not complaining. Does anybody know when this is likely to be implemented?
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rover 623gsi
1,946 posts
30 months
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thinfourth2 said: Lets be honest
Its a terrible idea as it will result in gardens throughout the england being turned into ugly grey boxes.
Yes planning needed a rocket up its arse but not this as i can't see it resulting in a sudden outbreak of fantastic buildings. we're in a recession - few people have got the money to do projects like that so I doubt if will result in that much extra garden space being lost
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tonker
43,759 posts
117 months
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allow reclamation of VAT for renovation and extension projects. Tadahh.....
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Blue62
1,391 posts
21 months
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Welshbeef said: So say I have a detached garage currently and want a two story extension with correct tiled roof not flat roof is that now doable,
Basically turning three bed into five double bed with wider garage plus much bigger kitchen
Or turning a three large double bed into a four large double bed with big bathroom. Sorry mate, would not want to advise, you will need to check with your planning office! This does look like a recipe for disaster though, if no permission is required, what happens with building surveys etc?
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thinfourth2
23,520 posts
73 months
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rover 623gsi said: thinfourth2 said: Lets be honest
Its a terrible idea as it will result in gardens throughout the england being turned into ugly grey boxes.
Yes planning needed a rocket up its arse but not this as i can't see it resulting in a sudden outbreak of fantastic buildings. we're in a recession - few people have got the money to do projects like that so I doubt if will result in that much extra garden space being lost So it will result in little extra work and ugly buildings You aren't selling this very well Drop the VAT on extensions and bingo. it will encourage me to carry out the extension we want
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Blue62
1,391 posts
21 months
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thinfourth2 said: So it will result in little extra work and ugly buildings
You aren't selling this very well
Drop the VAT on extensions and bingo. it will encourage me to carry out the extension we want Or reduce VAT completely and while you're at it reduce high rate income tax and employers NI, stimulate the economy, stimulate the people and give us something to get excited about Dave.
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andye30m3
2,583 posts
123 months
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I'd rather they just reformed the current planning rules to be a little more pro development where it doesn't have any affect on people in the area.
I recently submitted a planing application for an extension to a cottage, which was refused. Due to previous extension in the 60's the dwelling would now be over 150% of it's original size, Considering there are no close neighbours and the plot is huge this seams a very weak argument to restricted how some one uses there own home / land.
I've also recently had a planning application refused but the officer has told me to take to appeal because I definitely win.
Certainly around here the planners seam to be determined to refuse applications, If a more sensible approach was taken to small scale extensions and alterations there would be no need to extend the permitted development rights.
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over_the_hill
1,551 posts
115 months
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The details are still sketchy but I live in a 3-bed detached. An 8m extension would allow me to virtually double the size of my house.
Not that I am intending to but I doubt if the neighbours would be happy if I did.
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Digga
10,898 posts
152 months
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over_the_hill said: The details are still sketchy but I live in a 3-bed detached. An 8m extension would allow me to virtually double the size of my house.
Not that I am intending to but I doubt if the neighbours would be happy if I did. As zero-interest-rate plus inflation is hitting prudent savers, so this will, in some cases, demolish the value people have invested in their homes when every ill-conceived and unsympathetic botch of an 'improvement' is shoved through planning. FWIW, I will personally benefit from this and I still think it dubious.
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richardxjr
3,307 posts
79 months
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Excellent timing. 8x5m extension onto detached house, just paid for the drawings and the council planning Fee on Monday 
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Welshbeef
Original Poster
13,037 posts
67 months
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richardxjr said: Excellent timing. 8x5m extension onto detached house, just paid for the drawings and the council planning Fee on Monday On a semi detached could you have a 5m width then right back whole depth of the house and then an extra 5m or would it be max 5m wide extra by the depth of the house.
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richardxjr
3,307 posts
79 months
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Welshbeef said: richardxjr said: Excellent timing. 8x5m extension onto detached house, just paid for the drawings and the council planning Fee on Monday On a semi detached could you have a 5m width then right back whole depth of the house and then an extra 5m or would it be max 5m wide extra by the depth of the house. Dunno mate. £1000 on drawings and Planning fee is a small %age of the build cost so I'm not that miffed. I have applied fully expecting to get planning.
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andye30m3
2,583 posts
123 months
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Even if what you want to do falls within the new permitted development rules I'd recommend applying for a certificate of lawful development which would require some drawing so the £1k not wasted.
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