Conservative MP - Police Rant.

[AnotherClarkey]

ClaphamGT3 said:

Having read it, it doesnt do any more than set out one side of the story.

There isn't going to be an investigation into Mitchell and Cameron doesnt want to be bounced into letting him go.

I suspect that if this story does keep running (and I think its in its death throes) its going to be a story about the Met being in NI's pocket (again)

How is the Met / NI angle going to play out now the the Telegraph have published the notes though? So much for this being an over inflated BBC only thing as some were trying to contend.

[DJRC]

Derek Smith said:

DJRC said:

"No comment thankyou, its all been taken care of with a quiet word between the concerned parties. This matter is now closed."

Job done, end of, no further interviews or questions taken on the subject.

Isn't aplogising what Mitchell failed to do until the story broke? After that, it was out of the hands of the parties involved.

It was never out of the hands of the parties involved...it was the parties involved that escalated the story, otherwise how could it actually have escalated in the first place???

The point being that the said parties involved, inc AM, should have been put in a room and a quiet, friendly word had in each of their shell likes. When/if the Press get wind of anything, a standard one line answer from *anybody* involved, is repeated along the lines above. No oxygen to the fire, no story, fish n chip wrapper.

The aim from *both* sides should be to keep Press details quiet, not inflame them.

[Jasandjules]

Well he was right, the officer hasn't heard the last of it.......

Sadly, I think keeping him in power is more damaging than getting rid of him - that kind of arrogant attitude is already costing the Govt votes (far too many poor people unhappy with the "we are all in this together" from multi-millionaires who have no idea how bad things are for the poor) and this I think will not assist at all.

[ClaphamGT3]

Jasandjules said:

Well he was right, the officer hasn't heard the last of it.......

Sadly, I think keeping him in power is more damaging than getting rid of him - that kind of arrogant attitude is already costing the Govt votes (far too many poor people unhappy with the "we are all in this together" from multi-millionaires who have no idea how bad things are for the poor) and this I think will not assist at all.

I think that he and CCO will be working on the basis that this will be completely forgotten in a couple of weeks.

Cameron has a well documented distaste for being 'bounced' into appointment decisions by the public/the press. I suspect that Mitchell is as safe as he wants to be,

[Andy Zarse]

ClaphamGT3 said:

I think that he and CCO will be working on the basis that this will be completely forgotten in a couple of weeks.

Cameron has a well documented distaste for being 'bounced' into appointment decisions by the public/the press. I suspect that Mitchell is as safe as he wants to be,

CMD's only being bounced because he didn't do the right thing originally and sack the loathsome lying turd.

[greygoose]

Mitchell has embarrassed the government and hasn't been at all convincing in setting out his side of the incident, repeatedly saying you are being clear isn't the same as stating your case and just makes him look shifty.

[shoestring7]

chris watton said:

Oh dear....

Full statement from Police officer on Guido's site said:

Whilst on duty at *** tonight (Wed 19th Sept) on a 1400-2200 hrs between the hours of 1800-2000 I had to deal with a man claiming to be the chief whip and who I later confirmed to be such and a Mr Andrew MITCHELL.

Mr Mitchell was speaking to PC ******** demanding exit through the main vehicle gate into Whitehall. PC ******** explained to Mr MITCHELL that the policy was for pedal cycles to use the side pedestrian exit. Mr MITCHELL refused, stating he was the chief whip and he always used the main gates.

I explained to Mr MITCHELL that the policy was to use the side pedestrian gates and that I was happy to open those for him, but that no officer present would be opening the main gates as this was the policy we were directed to follow.

Mr MITCHELL refused. Repeatedly reiterating he was the chief whip. My exact explanation to Mr MITCHELL was “I am more than happy to open the side pedestrian gate for you Sir, but it is policy that we are not to allow cycles through the main vehicle entrance”.

After several refusals Mr MITCHELL got off his bike and walked to the pedestrian gate with me after I again offered to open that for him.

There were several members of public present as is the norm opposite the pedestrian gate and as we neared it, Mr MITCHELL said: “Best you learn your f—— place…you don’t run this f—— government…You’re f—— plebs.” The members of public looked visibly shocked and I was somewhat taken aback by the language used and the view expressed by a senior government official. I can not say if this statement was aimed at me individually, or the officers present or the police service as a whole.

I warned Mr MITCHELL that he should not swear, and if he continued to do so I would have no option but to arrest him under the Public Order Act, saying “Please don’t swear at me Sir. If you continue to I will have no option but to arrest you under the public order act”.

Mr MITCHELL was then silent and left saying “you haven’t heard the last of this” as he cycled off.

I forward this to you as all officers were extremely polite to Mr MITCHELL, but such behaviour and verbal expressions could lead to the unfortunate situation of officers being left no option but to exercise their powers.

I write this for your information as Mr Mitchell’s last comments would appear to indicate that he is unhappy with my actions.

I have recorded this fully in my pocket book.

http://order-order.com/2012/09/24/breaking-police-...

I"m thinking......: http://sniffpetrol.com/category/detective-inspecto...


SS7

[Marty Funkhouser]

Guam said:

Really we are in the st economically, we have teachers spending 174K on a fax machine and what is the press obsessing over, an arrogant tt of a politician <quelle surprise> and a couple of over sensitive PCs who have clearly never heard an insult before <Bless>

Neither side comes out of this well imho, but surely to god we have more pressing issues for the press to be focusing on?

Disagree. This goes to the heart of everything that is wrong with the ruling party in this country. We are being governed by ultra priveleged, arrogant snobs whose main agenda appears to be to continue the unfair distribution of wealth on the back of 'pleb' labour.

The issue should have been dealt with by Mitchell being dismissed but the old boys club doesnt abandon its members so easily.

Edited by Marty Funkhouser on Tuesday 25th September 11:23

[Halb]

Guam said:

Really we are in the st economically, we have teachers spending 174K on a fax machine and what is the press obsessing over, an arrogant tt of a politician <quelle surprise> and a couple of over sensitive PCs who have clearly never heard an insult before <Bless>

Is it over sensitive PCs? Would PCs be considered being sensitive if it was chav scum who were effing and jeffing at them? I see it as more an issue with our society and the amount of disrespect in it, and those who sit within our society and think the rules don't apply to them, at whatever level.

Besides the economy is gonna be fked for years, that'll always be there to be reported on.

[Blue62]

motco said:

And how in the name of all things sane and reasonable can they connect it with the murders of the policewomen in Manchester last week?

I can't answer your point, maybe if you posted a link as I didn't see a report connecting the two events (as you suggest). My wider point was this story was headlining in most of the papers yesterday, the Sun revealed the P word allegation and led with the story, so to castigate the BBC alone seems at odds with your point about bias.

[anonymous-user]

Guam said:

Really we are in the st economically, we have teachers spending 174K on a fax machine and what is the press obsessing over, an arrogant tt of a politician <quelle surprise> and a couple of over sensitive PCs who have clearly never heard an insult before <Bless>

Neither side comes out of this well imho, but surely to god we have more pressing issues for the press to be focusing on?

Spot on! Why the fk can't people see the wood for the trees and deal with what matters?

[Halb]

Guam said:

If the Bib dealt with everyone who insulted them by whining or banging them up, the jails would be rammed with people just for doing that. I do not condone insulting a guy doing his job and have NEVER done that to A PC, Traffic Warden etc. But come on this all a bit precious dont you think?
Time to move on imho

A bit precious yeah.
I was thinking it would blow over, but the CW seems very adept at stoking the embers just enough.

[Saddle bum]

How does a bobby deal with a jumped-up toe rag who is throwing insults around? I think the little oik was lucky, for if one of us did the same to a BIB, we would get nicked for insulting behaviour, banged up for an hour or two and our DNA taken.

I suspect the gate guards are coached in how to behave towards the apparachiks going in and out.

[ED209]

Do these tory idiots have any brains or compassion at all?

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Tory-David-Steph...

I despair.

[XCP]

I am surprised that people are surprised.

[sugerbear]

Guam said:

Really we are in the st economically, we have teachers spending 174K on a fax machine and what is the press obsessing over, an arrogant tt of a politician <quelle surprise> and a couple of over sensitive PCs who have clearly never heard an insult before <Bless>

Neither side comes out of this well imho, but surely to god we have more pressing issues for the press to be focusing on?

The Police were following rules. They got abused because a member of the public didn't like what they were hearing.

I guess the reason the main gate isn't opened for anything other than official cars is that is poses a security risk. If the PC had opened the gate and someone had driven their car/van through and done something then I expect that Mitchell would blame them for not following the rules.

Obviously none of the above happened but I assume it's in place for good reason and not just to annoy the chief whip.

[motco]

Blue62 said:

motco said:

And how in the name of all things sane and reasonable can they connect it with the murders of the policewomen in Manchester last week?

I can't answer your point, maybe if you posted a link as I didn't see a report connecting the two events (as you suggest). My wider point was this story was headlining in most of the papers yesterday, the Sun revealed the P word allegation and led with the story, so to castigate the BBC alone seems at odds with your point about bias.

This is the best I can do right now - they were banging on about the link on 'Today' though.

BBC said:

A police union leader has attacked David Cameron as the row continues over Chief Whip Andrew Mitchell's words to an officer.

The prime minister's tribute to the two police officers killed in Manchester was "hollow words", Metropolitan Police Federation chairman John Tully said.

Mr Tully said this was the opinion of "many of my colleagues".

A Downing Street source said the PM had made it clear "that he has the greatest respect for the police".

Adam Fleming reports.

[Digga]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-he...

The Daily Mash said:

Whilst on duty at *** tonight (Wed 19th Sept) on a 1400-2200 hrs between the hours of 1800-2000 I had to deal with a man on a bike claiming to be Wolverine from the X-Men and who I later confirmed to be just the chief whip and a Mr Andrew MITCHELL.

[retrobob]

[crankedup]

ClaphamGT3 said:

Jasandjules said:

Well he was right, the officer hasn't heard the last of it.......

Sadly, I think keeping him in power is more damaging than getting rid of him - that kind of arrogant attitude is already costing the Govt votes (far too many poor people unhappy with the "we are all in this together" from multi-millionaires who have no idea how bad things are for the poor) and this I think will not assist at all.

I think that he and CCO will be working on the basis that this will be completely forgotten in a couple of weeks.

Cameron has a well documented distaste for being 'bounced' into appointment decisions by the public/the press. I suspect that Mitchell is as safe as he wants to be,

Disagree, this is a story that will come back and bite the Tories in a couple of years time. The public have long memories for this type of behaviour, Brown bigot anyone. Damage has been done now and it will cost Tory votes. As for Mitchell, pawn in a storm.