Conservative MP - Police Rant.
Discussion
98elise said:
The issue isn't the name calling. If he had just owned up, and appologised it would have all blown over.
As it was he was happy to label the police liars, but refused to come up with his version of the events, over something so trivial. Someone with that level of integrity should not be involved in running the country.
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As it was he was happy to label the police liars, but refused to come up with his version of the events, over something so trivial. Someone with that level of integrity should not be involved in running the country.
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He continued with the the contempt he displayed momentarily when his unprocessed thought had translated into speech.98elise said:
johnfm said:
So, the economy is stalling, we have spiralling debt and deficit problems and our political leaders have spent most of the last two weeks on whether a man called someone a pleb.
Meanwhile politicians are defrauding the taxpayer, yet again, renting out their Lonond houses to other MPs.
No wonder the place is f
ked.
The issue isn't the name calling. If he had just owned up, and appologised it would have all blown over.Meanwhile politicians are defrauding the taxpayer, yet again, renting out their Lonond houses to other MPs.
No wonder the place is f
ked.As it was he was happy to label the police liars, but refused to come up with his version of the events, over something so trivial. Someone with that level of integrity should not be involved in running the country.
If I behaved like that at work, I would be out of a job.
sd477667 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-200...
Yes sorry
Becky Godden's family have been robbed of justice because this public servant didn't do their job. Dismissal can be the only outcome as assume he won't have the decency to resign (and without pension too).
From my information, far from Godden's family being 'robbed' of anything, the police officer risked his career to ensure that they got exactly what they wanted. You will note that Becky's mother states she is fully supportive of the police officer, and for good reason. From what I can gather the police officer, using his experience, realised that Godden's family might never be able to bury their daughter unless he acted in a certain way.Yes sorry
Becky Godden's family have been robbed of justice because this public servant didn't do their job. Dismissal can be the only outcome as assume he won't have the decency to resign (and without pension too).
What happened was that Halliwell asked for a solicitor when he was out of the nick and the super, knowing exactly what the brief would tell the self-confessed murder to do, i.e. say nothing, and also knowing that that would mean probably never finding the body of Becky, he took a risk which, from his point of view, and the point of view of one other victim of the offender, the mother of the victim, paid off. There is no doubt that there was not een a prima facie case against Halliwell for the Godden murder so regardless of what the officer did, Halliwell would probably have walked.
So the super knew that he was risking rank, money, job and, if hysterical voices carry influence, his pension as well but put service first and foremost.
My information comes thried hand. My informant is 100% reliable. He says his informant is very dependable as well. So probably not as good as reading something online and extrapolating from there.
Every police officer will be, at some time in his career, in a quandry as to whether compliance with regulations is more important that serving the public. I did 30 years and never opted to do anything other than follow the rules. Looking back at two instances I feel I took the coward's way out. What is worse from my point of view is that I know, if I was in the position of this police officer, I probably would not have had the bottle to follow his superb example.
The bloke is a hero to my mind.
Mr Snap said:
98elise said:
johnfm said:
So, the economy is stalling, we have spiralling debt and deficit problems and our political leaders have spent most of the last two weeks on whether a man called someone a pleb.
Meanwhile politicians are defrauding the taxpayer, yet again, renting out their Lonond houses to other MPs.
No wonder the place is fked.
The issue isn't the name calling. If he had just owned up, and appologised it would have all blown over.Meanwhile politicians are defrauding the taxpayer, yet again, renting out their Lonond houses to other MPs.
No wonder the place is f
ked.As it was he was happy to label the police liars, but refused to come up with his version of the events, over something so trivial. Someone with that level of integrity should not be involved in running the country.
If I behaved like that at work, I would be out of a job.
torres del paine said:
y thoughts exactly. The bleating from the police has been pretty pathetic and hypocritical.
Why blame the police? No one cared what the police said in reality. The Federation, which is not union, met with him and criticised him for not answering their questions. That seemed less than interesting to all papers and media outlets. It was all down to the tory backbenchers. They see themselves on the up and decided to see the extent of their powers. They are the ones who got him fired, not the police.Dixie68 said:
RedTrident said:
Oh. Did he call the poor policeman a name? Oh poor poor policeman.
This has been nothing more than a witch hunt. By our police? I don't think so.
You're a shining example of why there should be an ignore button on PH, all you ever do is whinge about the police.This has been nothing more than a witch hunt. By our police? I don't think so.
Yes I am sometimes critical about the Police but on this occasion I don't think it was the Police that forced the resignation.
As for some of my other criticisms, you can by all means justify the idiot that tasered the blind man and the scandal surrounding the 96. I see that for what it is, a Police force that needs to be made to account for its actions where its officers are accountable to the same laws the rest of us are.
XCP said:
Might be an idea to let the enquiry complete the investigation before making assumptions about what will happen though.
But all the evidence is there in the newspaper reports. That's what we should go by, not wait to find out what really happened. How on earth can we expect to be reactionary if we have to wait?
I of course meant "suitable for use with all fora".Murph7355 said:
Just use your own. Instantly implemented and suitable is well with all fora as well as other life situations.
No need for a technology solution. If only everyone realised this.
Yes I know, I was just having a poke at one of the usual suspects that I had filed away some time previously in the T section.No need for a technology solution. If only everyone realised this.
Milky Joe said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Hopefully, the officers in question will be up on some sort of assault charge.
So a not guilty verdict can stoke your astonishing prejudice to new levels? Murkier and murkier...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20764044
Too many in this sorry saga are coming out smelling of doggy doo.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20764044
Too many in this sorry saga are coming out smelling of doggy doo.
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