Abu Hamza extradition halted .. again
Discussion
Breadvan72 said:
Hamza could come back of his own accord if acquitted or released after serving time. He is a British citizen and cannot be refused entry to the UK. The US would likely deport him to the UK in either event.
Were he to be found innocent, the offence of treason would likely appear back on the statute books faster than he can fly back.It would be the end of the current 'rule of law' if he were at liberty in the UK.
Treason is still an offence. As for your latest exercise in crazy hyperbole, I can only say, unwind a little.
PS: before the late eighteenth century, nobody accused of a Felony had the right to be represented at trial. Presumably, you would like to go back to the eighteenth century. Shall we reintroduce public executions, child labour and cholera while we're at it?
PS: before the late eighteenth century, nobody accused of a Felony had the right to be represented at trial. Presumably, you would like to go back to the eighteenth century. Shall we reintroduce public executions, child labour and cholera while we're at it?
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 10th October 20:11
Breadvan72 said:
Treason is still an offence. As for your latest exercise in crazy hyperbole, I can only say, unwind a little.
PS: before the late eighteenth century, nobody accused of a Felony had the right to be represented at trial. Presumably, you would like to go back to the eighteenth century. Shall we reintroduce public executions, child labour and cholera while we're at it?
LOL!! Bit of a drama queen aren't you. Your half-baked attempts to defend the indefensible are as laughable as they are pathetic. PS: before the late eighteenth century, nobody accused of a Felony had the right to be represented at trial. Presumably, you would like to go back to the eighteenth century. Shall we reintroduce public executions, child labour and cholera while we're at it?
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 10th October 20:11
Reform is coming - the meteor has already hit, and the dust clouds are gathering. The strengthened rights of home owners over burglars is only the beginning - no charge, no lawyers. The public at large despise your profession for its arrogant dismisal of the injustice you cause due to your self interested money grubbing.
Ever wondered why you have your own circle of hell?
Breadvan72 said:
Presumably, you would like to go back to the eighteenth century. Shall we reintroduce public executions, child labour and cholera while we're at it?
With respect, some of your comments bring you down to the level of the odd poster on here.Edited by Breadvan72 on Wednesday 10th October 20:11
Breadvan72 said:
Treason is still an offence. As for your latest exercise in crazy hyperbole, I can only say, unwind a little.
PS: before the late eighteenth century, nobody accused of a Felony had the right to be represented at trial. Presumably, you would like to go back to the eighteenth century. Shall we reintroduce public executions, child labour and cholera while we're at it?
Come on Breadvan.PS: before the late eighteenth century, nobody accused of a Felony had the right to be represented at trial. Presumably, you would like to go back to the eighteenth century. Shall we reintroduce public executions, child labour and cholera while we're at it?
Edited by Breadvan72 on Wednesday 10th October 20:11
Pot, kettle, black.
My goodness, is sarcasm in response to ill informed Daily Mailism unlawful on PH these days? Apparently, if Hamza comes back (which looks unlikely), the rule of law will collapse. I suggest that's just a tad improbable. Toponepercent suggests this will happen and then calls me a Drama Queen!
The burglars thing has two threads of its own, but, as most commentators are observing, the so called change in the law is merely restating what it already says (householders right, burglars wrong).
The burglars thing has two threads of its own, but, as most commentators are observing, the so called change in the law is merely restating what it already says (householders right, burglars wrong).
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 10th October 21:52
Breadvan72 said:
My goodness, is sarcasm in response to ill informed Daily Mailism unlawful on PH these days? Apparently, if Hamza comes back (which looks unlikely), the rule of law will collapse. I suggest that's just a tad improbable. Toponepercent suggests this will happen and then calls me a Drama Queen!
Lets assume Hamza gets off and makes his oh-so triumphant return. Do you think that:Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 10th October 21:52
a) This will happen peacefully and the rule of law will be maintained
b) There will be fighting (EDL, disenfranchised people, and Muslims)
c) Some loner will kill him and claim a Brevik style group crusade
d) Hamza will need round the clock protection to the end of his days
I'll give you a clue, it won't be a), b) will happen for sure, c) or d) will also happen.
Once the rioting starts, for start it will, there will be death, destruction, and mayhem. What there won't be will be the rule of law. Once the dust settles, reform of the legal system will be pushed through no matter how loud the guardian squeal.
TopOnePercent said:
Lets assume Hamza gets off and makes his oh-so triumphant return. Do you think that:
a) This will happen peacefully and the rule of law will be maintained
b) There will be fighting (EDL, disenfranchised people, and Muslims)
c) Some loner will kill him and claim a Brevik style group crusade
d) Hamza will need round the clock protection to the end of his days
I'll give you a clue, it won't be a), b) will happen for sure, c) or d) will also happen.
Once the rioting starts, for start it will, there will be death, destruction, and mayhem. What there won't be will be the rule of law. Once the dust settles, reform of the legal system will be pushed through no matter how loud the guardian squeal.
Do you think you could try to slow your 2 posts a month average?a) This will happen peacefully and the rule of law will be maintained
b) There will be fighting (EDL, disenfranchised people, and Muslims)
c) Some loner will kill him and claim a Brevik style group crusade
d) Hamza will need round the clock protection to the end of his days
I'll give you a clue, it won't be a), b) will happen for sure, c) or d) will also happen.
Once the rioting starts, for start it will, there will be death, destruction, and mayhem. What there won't be will be the rule of law. Once the dust settles, reform of the legal system will be pushed through no matter how loud the guardian squeal.
Ta.
Loony.
TopOnePercent said:
Justayellowbadge said:
Do you think you could try to slow your 2 posts a month average?
Ta.
Loony.
I dunno, maybe you could try sucking my balls?Ta.
Loony.
There must be bargain basement rent boys that will fulfill your needs somewhere near whichever social housing hellhole you exist in.
Justayellowbadge said:
Even if I were straight, Subaru driving thugs are just a little too council for me.
Council I may once have been, but thug - I think not.At no point have I advocated violence. Expressing an opinion that lawyers are collective suckers of satans cock with their own hell circle doesn't become thuggish just because you disagree with it.
London burned a little over a year ago because a gangster got shot. People died. Property burned. The law failed. Allowing Hamza to return would, I should expect, precipitate something rather larger in scale.
I'll leave you boys to your law loving circle jerk now as your lack of reasoning is as tedious as it is naieve.
Breadvan72 said:
My goodness, is sarcasm in response to ill informed Daily Mailism unlawful on PH these days? Apparently, if Hamza comes back (which looks unlikely), the rule of law will collapse. I suggest that's just a tad improbable. Toponepercent suggests this will happen and then calls me a Drama Queen!
The burglars thing has two threads of its own, but, as most commentators are observing, the so called change in the law is merely restating what it already says (householders right, burglars wrong).
Well, you should know!The burglars thing has two threads of its own, but, as most commentators are observing, the so called change in the law is merely restating what it already says (householders right, burglars wrong).
Edited by Breadvan72 on Wednesday 10th October 21:52
Sadly, the attempt to remove Hamza's British citizenship failed. Egypt had got there first, removing Hamza's Egyptian citizenship in a secretive manner. The UK Government's more open attempt to remove British citizenship from this unpleasant man ran into the buffers of Statelessness.
Anyway, the US has him now, and the process there will keep him occupied for quite some time to come, I should think.
I think that we can get too worked up about these horrible people. They have obnoxious ideas, but thus far have not, collectively, got very far in their attacks on our civilisation. They can't win, so long as we don't hand them victory on a plate. Panicking about them is one step towards doing that.
Anyway, the US has him now, and the process there will keep him occupied for quite some time to come, I should think.
I think that we can get too worked up about these horrible people. They have obnoxious ideas, but thus far have not, collectively, got very far in their attacks on our civilisation. They can't win, so long as we don't hand them victory on a plate. Panicking about them is one step towards doing that.
Sadly, Abu's mate won't be joining him in the US any time soon.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22165302
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22165302
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