Abu Hamza extradition halted .. again

Abu Hamza extradition halted .. again

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squeezebm

2,319 posts

205 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Zod said:
They pay for what they get.
Well worth it.......

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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squeezebm said:
Zod said:
They pay for what they get.
Well worth it.......
They think so. Just agreed a healthy monthly fee of $x00k on a big matter this morning between banter with you on this thread.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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There is some truth in criticism of law based on needless over complexity, but I suggest that the law is inherently complex because life is complex. Good lawyers and good Judges aim to simplify. I agree that there are too many bad lawyers.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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You can tell a bad lawyer in minutes; he's the one who sits in the meeting or on the call, listens and then tells everyone how difficult and complex the situation is without suggesting any solutions. There are far too many of these idiots around.

squeezebm

2,319 posts

205 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Zod said:
They think so. Just agreed a healthy monthly fee of $x00k on a big matter this morning between banter with you on this thread.
Of course you have.

IroningMan

10,154 posts

246 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Zod said:
You can tell a bad lawyer in minutes; he's the one who sits in the meeting or on the call, listens and then tells everyone how difficult and complex the situation is without suggesting any solutions. There are far too many of these idiots around.
Applies equally to more or less any profession and to the general business management practiced by us non-professional plebs.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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squeezebm said:
Zod said:
They think so. Just agreed a healthy monthly fee of $x00k on a big matter this morning between banter with you on this thread.
Of course you have.
Are you trying to be funny?

squeezebm

2,319 posts

205 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Zod said:
Are you trying to be funny?
Are you trying to be arrogant?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Bad lawyers also produce bad documents. Short is good, but defensive draftsmen produce long and turgid documents. I once did did a case for Roger Moore about "The Saint" and "The Persuaders", which was based on an excellent three page contract made in 1966 and signed with a flourish by Lew Grade. Today, the equivalent contract would be 100 pages of blah.

It can be refreshing to read cases decided circa 1880-1920, when the quality of legal writing was high. Compare and contrast today's inelegant cut and paste judgments.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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squeezebm said:
Are you trying to be arrogant?
I am attempting to show that lawyers operate in a competitive market and that I can be successful at what I do and also post a few times a day on PH.

What are you trying to do?

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Breadvan72 said:
Bad lawyers also produce bad documents. Short is good, but defensive draftsmen produce long and turgid documents. I once did did a case for Roger Moore about "The Saint" and "The Persuaders", which was based on an excellent three page contract made in 1966 and signed with a flourish by Lew Grade. Today, the equivalent contract would be 100 pages of blah.

It can be refreshing to read cases decided circa 1880-1920, when the quality of legal writing was high. Compare and contrast today's inelegant cut and paste judgments.
Couldn't agree more. So often you can reduce a whole page of turgid rubbish to five lines or so.

squeezebm

2,319 posts

205 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Zod said:
I am attempting to show that lawyers operate in a competitive market and that I can be successful at what I do and also post a few times a day on PH.

What are you trying to do?
Learn from the master

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Faah have you journeyed, llung glasshoppah.


squeezebm

2,319 posts

205 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Breadvan72 said:
Faah have you journeyed, llung glasshoppah.

Lmfao

zod will be back in a mo' he's just brokering a big deal

Digga

40,295 posts

283 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Zod said:
Breadvan72 said:
Bad lawyers also produce bad documents. Short is good, but defensive draftsmen produce long and turgid documents. I once did did a case for Roger Moore about "The Saint" and "The Persuaders", which was based on an excellent three page contract made in 1966 and signed with a flourish by Lew Grade. Today, the equivalent contract would be 100 pages of blah.

It can be refreshing to read cases decided circa 1880-1920, when the quality of legal writing was high. Compare and contrast today's inelegant cut and paste judgments.
Couldn't agree more. So often you can reduce a whole page of turgid rubbish to five lines or so.
As did older lawyers.

I remember the conveyancing for my first house, done by the the lawyer we then used for business matters - big petrolhead (E-TYpe & Griff 500) and long since retired - where my wife and I sat in his dusty, Dickensian-looking offices and he basically ripped through the contract telling us we didn't need to concern ourselves with any of it, other than about two passages, which he then carefully, succintly summed-up for us and allowed us to consider the implications. No faff, no bluster no bullst.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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squeezebm said:
Breadvan72 said:
Faah have you journeyed, llung glasshoppah.

Lmfao

zod will be back in a mo' he's just brokering a big deal


Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Breadvan72 said:
squeezebm said:
Breadvan72 said:
Faah have you journeyed, llung glasshoppah.

Lmfao

zod will be back in a mo' he's just brokering a big deal
At last, recognition!

maxfan

1,622 posts

143 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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which one of you fookers did the rail franchise thingy

squeezebm

2,319 posts

205 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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maxfan said:
which one of you fookers did the rail franchise thingy
It wasnt zod that deal was not large enough!!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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That's peanuts to Zod!

I helped to re-nationalise the East Coach Franchise, but didn't do the West Coast one. Phew!