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Rollcage

11,064 posts

72 months

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Chris Jeffries was arrested on suspicion of murder - and IIRC his detention was extended.

Just sayin, like.

Killer2005

15,910 posts

108 months

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Oakey said:
Why stop there? Why not water board them as well?
Mere half measures. Let's gets his Jacobs wired up the the national grid

dfen5

1,389 posts

92 months

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Killer2005 said:
Mere half measures. Let's gets his Jacobs wired up the the national grid
I did think a couple of wet sponges and a nail where the fuse should be. Nothing to what will happen if he gets let out tomorrow @ 17:00..

Killer2005

15,910 posts

108 months

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dfen5 said:
I did think a couple of wet sponges and a nail where the fuse should be. Nothing to what will happen if he gets let out tomorrow @ 17:00..
And if the police have made a balls up and got the wrong bloke?

Gazzab

15,659 posts

162 months

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DavidUK said:
Maybe your right, who knows?

I'm just starting to get a little uncomfortable with this now just as I was with the Joanna Yates case when nearly everyone thought they had the right man and I was one of the few who didn't, based simply on that it didn't make sense. This also doesn't make sense on several levels, the main one being that if Bridger did it how could he even hope to get away with it as all reported 'suspicious movements' of his were conducted in broad daylight? If he did it then was certainly wasn't trying to be careful and yet there appears to be very little, if any, solid evidence.
One of the few? Most intelligent non-daily mail readers knew there was likely some doubt, no clear evidence, trial by media etc. Similar situation here. Very sad situation but media found him guilty before any facts are known. He might be guilty, it might be an accident etc
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dfen5

1,389 posts

92 months

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Killer2005 said:
And if the police have made a balls up and got the wrong bloke?
Let's wait and see.

Grenoble

12,434 posts

35 months

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dfen5 said:
In cases like this I don't see why they don't pump the suspects full of truth drugs and see what they say. If it might mean finding the victin alive (if time allows) or even dead, it's got to be worth a go. If nothing is right, what difference would it make to a trial?

The girl looked so happy in the pictures. Truly heart breaking to think someone may have taken her life.
Because we live in a democracy? And truth drugs might have as many false positives as true positives. The brain is a complex place...

But yes, it is appalling, I'm just not sure how far injecting truth drugs into suspects takes us...


Rollcage

11,064 posts

72 months

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There's no such thing as a truth drug - all depends what you believe to be true in any case!

M3333

1,649 posts

94 months

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ChunkyloverSV said:
http://www.facebook.com/HangMarkBridger?ref=strea

Wow, just wow. I really despair at some of the inhabitants of this country.
That page disgusts me - pea brained morons. Lets see what happens over the next few days but above all it would be amazing if they found the poor little girl safe and alive.

MartG

3,275 posts

84 months

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M3333 said:
ChunkyloverSV said:
http://www.facebook.com/HangMarkBridger?ref=strea

Wow, just wow. I really despair at some of the inhabitants of this country.
That page disgusts me - pea brained morons. Lets see what happens over the next few days but above all it would be amazing if they found the poor little girl safe and alive.
Just report the page to Facebook admin, like I have just done. Hopefully with enough complaints they'll take it down

TheSnitch

1,578 posts

34 months

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There have been many high profile cases recently where the police have repeatedly sought extra time to question suspects, but - and I am sure someone with experience of working in this area will correct me if I'm wrong - as I understand it, once they charge someone they can't question him any further? I can understand that they would want to get as much out of him as possible while they still can

Jimboka

3,242 posts

84 months

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Innocent until proven guilty & all that. There may be some unexpected twists & turns...

Grenoble

12,434 posts

35 months

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Charge or release by 5pm?

Seti

1,807 posts

84 months

El Guapo

1,926 posts

70 months

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It seems strange to me that the investigation is progressing so slowly. From the manner in which the searches are being carried out, the police still don't seem to have any information to work with.
I can only conclude that either Bridger is refusing to say anything or he does not know anything. It will be interesting to see whether he is charged or released later today.

Frik

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12,395 posts

123 months

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It certainly suggests they don't have any really damning evidence against him. If he doesn't get charged then this story gets a lot stranger.

Grenoble

12,434 posts

35 months

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El Guapo said:
It seems strange to me that the investigation is progressing so slowly. From the manner in which the searches are being carried out, the police still don't seem to have any information to work with.
I can only conclude that either Bridger is refusing to say anything or he does not know anything. It will be interesting to see whether he is charged or released later today.
Though he will then probably be taken somewhere for his own protection/safety?

After all, he's been tried and convicted in the eyes of the general public.

Either way, his life will never be the same again.

Ozzie Osmond

15,586 posts

126 months

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1. Helping the police with their enquiries.

This is an informal discussion with the police. If you become a suspect you will be given the police caution (see below) so that what you say afterwards can be used as evidence. You may also be arrested.

The caution means that you do not have to answer any questions, you can have a solicitor present and the interview will be recorded. You can remain silent or say 'no comment' if you want.

You are free to leave at any time unless the police arrest you.

2. Arrest

If you are arrested, the police have formed a "reasonable suspicion" that you are responsible for the crime and the next stage for them is to secure evidence by questioning. You have the right to have a solicitor present and advise you whether to answer questions. Note: if you are arrested without such reasonable suspicion you can claim compensation for wrongful arrest.

The police caution will be given, "You do not have to say anything. However, it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence."

Normally you must be charged within 24 hours after arrest or released, but if you are suspected of a serious crime (e.g. murder), this can be extended to 36 hours by a police superintendent or to 96 hours by a court.

After this time, the police must either charge you or release you.

3. Charge

Once charged with a crime you are probably going to court. That doesn't necessarily mean you are locked up straight away as the police can let you go home on "police bail". A common situation for police bail might be someone charged with a serious motoring offence.

If the Crown Prosecution Service later decides not to proceed with the case, charges can be withdrawn and you will have a clean record.

After you have been charged there will be no further police questioning. (Unless you are a terrorist)

skinley

1,681 posts

40 months

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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
I did wonder if maybe April was bullying this blokes kid and possibly he decided to take matters into his own hands - and it all went horribly wrong?
Pure speculation of course. It's all very odd.
For fks sake! rolleyes

That has to be the most moronic comment on this, or any, thread ever.

Getragdogleg

4,384 posts

63 months

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Ozzie Osmond said:
After you have been charged there will be no further police questioning. (Unless you are a terrorist)
So the police are no longer actually questioning the suspect in custody ?

If that is the case then I suspect they have got as much as they are likely to get from him and have either charged him because they believe him to be responsible, or they need extra time to find evidence or just to keep him away from the rest of the world, some of whom appear to have gone quite mad with some form of red mist.

If he is guilty of some wrongdoing, either direct or accidental then the trial is going to be interesting, the media and social networks have been in overdrive. A fair trial might be tricky unless you bus in a load of Amish jurors.
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