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rover 623gsi

2,284 posts

46 months

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Statement from Iwan Jenkins, District Crown Prosecutor, Crown Prosecution Service Cymru-Wales:

“The Crown Prosecution Service has been in close contact with Dyfed Powys Police as their extensive investigation into April’s disappearance has developed. In particular, we have been offering advice and guidance to the police since the suspect Mark Bridger was arrested last Tuesday.

“My role is to examine the evidence that is currently available and advise the police in respect of charges.

“I now have to advise that, having carried out a detailed review of the evidence gathered so far by Dyfed Powys Police, my conclusion is that there is sufficient evidence to charge Mark Bridger with the murder of April Jones, and that it is in the public interest to do so.

“I have also concluded that there is sufficient evidence and that it is in the public interest to charge the defendant with attempting to pervert the course of justice and child abduction.

“Accordingly, I have authorised Dyfed Powys Police to charge him with these offences and he will appear before Aberystwyth Magistrates’ Court on Monday morning.

“I realise that this is an incredibly difficult time for April’s family, friends and the community. My thoughts are with them – and indeed with all those affected by this week’s events.

“The huge public and media interest in this case is understandable. I would just like to stress that, whilst Mark Bridger stands accused of serious criminal charges, he retains the right to a fair trial. I would therefore ask that nothing is placed in the public domain that may undermine the criminal justice process.”

Details of the charges laid against Mark Bridger are as follows:

Murder, contrary to common law

Attempting to pervert the course of justice, contrary to common law

Child abduction, contrary to Section 2 of the Child Abduction Act, 1984

Getragdogleg

4,574 posts

68 months

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Seems pretty clear. Also the "fair trial" warning is clear as well.

I hope that those searching find her, I hope they can bring some closure to the family and I hope the guilty party gets the punishment deserved for whatever it is they did to her.

Nasty business.

danjama

1,802 posts

27 months

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If he did it, the bd has got to say where the body is. You just cannot do that to the family. She's just a child frown

otolith

25,614 posts

89 months

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He may have told them, the answer might be "in the river" frown

Grenoble

13,917 posts

40 months

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http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manu...

Wide scope for where it might be PCOJ.

Interference with potential witnesses? (police officer/one of the kids)?
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ALawson

4,995 posts

136 months

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danjama said:
If he did it, the bd has got to say where the body is. You just cannot do that to the family. She's just a child frown
Unfortunately he isn't the first and unlikely to be the last. RIP April.

I just don't know what possess people to do stuff like this.

Sheets Tabuer

12,261 posts

100 months

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otolith said:
He may have told them, the answer might be "in the river" frown
I fear that is exactly where she is.

rover 623gsi

2,284 posts

46 months

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Getragdogleg said:
Seems pretty clear. Also the "fair trial" warning is clear as well.

I hope that those searching find her, I hope they can bring some closure to the family and I hope the guilty party gets the punishment deserved for whatever it is they did to her.

Nasty business.
Indeed it is. Unbelievably heartbreaking and tragic.

Cheib

9,005 posts

60 months

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CommanderJameson said:
Just seems a bit quick. The pressure on the police to come up with a suspect must have been immense.
Definitely. Though these crimes are nearly always committed by someone local.

One thing we don't know is if he has a history of violent crime or some such....and obviously are unlikely to know until his possible trial is over.

All we seem to know is that he has children my multiple mothers some of whom have absolutely nothing to do with him.

Welshbeef

17,840 posts

83 months

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otolith said:
He may have told them, the answer might be "in the river" frown
Highly likely place to dispose of a body.

River is rough and fast deep too for a river.
I'm guessing IF she is dead and IF someone wanted to off someone in a river thick black plastic bags And metal chains or weight to hold her down. The river doesn't have clear water so scuba diving for the body would be very difficult to find.


If its not him or if she was still alive when he was caught by now you have to think with the cold and bad weather no food possibly no drink too how could she survive.


I hope she is safe - if not I hope the who did it burns in Hell.

hornetrider

48,289 posts

90 months

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Can we kindly get this thread back on topic please.

otolith

25,614 posts

89 months

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I think the Dyfi is usually pretty clear above the estuary, it's a salmon and trout river. Not when it's in spate like it is now, though. If there's a weighted body in there I would think it will be found when the levels drop, and if unweighted I expect it will wash up somewhere in on the coast. Not wishing to be unnecessarily morbid about it.

OzzyR1

2,519 posts

117 months

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What a thoroughly appalling state of affairs.

If the young girl is found dead (which sadly looks increasingly likely), then my heart goes out to her family and friends.

If this bloke they have in custody is guilty, he will get whatever punishment is due to him via the UK justice system.

I can't help thinking about the more peripheral victims though. Should Bridger be found guilty then his daughter will be in a position where she is at school, in a classroom with everyone's knowledge her dad has offed one of her classmates.

Poor kid.

TheSnitch

1,864 posts

39 months

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Superhoop said:
I don't see how you can have a murder without finding a body? I'm also struggling with him having a dark blue LR Discovery, when the witnesses saw a 'light coloured van' , and the PCOJ charge seems odd too

They obviously have enough for the CPS to allow him to be charged, and I guess we won't find out until his trial
Plenty of examples - Muriel McKay, Suzanne Pilley, Danielle Jones to name but a few

Eyewitness evidence is often unreliable. We were told a ''light-coloured van, possibly grey. The vehicle in question had a big grey flash down the side. That flash may be what registered with the witness.

It's all guesswork and supposition at the moment. I am quite sure they had plenty of evidence with which to justify the charges, and please god, for so many reasons, they are able to find the body of this poor bairn soon.

TheSnitch

1,864 posts

39 months

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ali_kat said:
R60EST said:
No completely innocent person could end up 'in the frame ' like he has . It's fair to assume he's guilty.
How quickly they forget - 2010, Christopher Jefferies in Clifton, Bristol?
Jefferies was never charged, remember?

Here's the thing. Bridger has been charged. The CPS will not recommend charging him unless they believe there is sufficient evidence to have a realistic chance of a conviction. At the moment, however, he is charged with several offences, not guilty of them. That remains to be decided at his trial.

I am baffled by the need people have to start looking for other explanations and scenarios - it's only a step away from winding tinfoil around your head and gibbering about missiles and holographic planes imo.

Can't you just wait until the trial? You have no idea how much evidence they may already have. I think if it was my child I wouldn't be keen on people speculating that he ran her over and couldn't deal - especially not when witnesses saw her get into the car. No-one is pinning a guilty badge on him yet - but there sure as hell is no reason to be going around pinning ''innocent'' ones to him either

Oakey

16,463 posts

101 months

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Again, Rebecca Leighton was charged.

Kinky

34,341 posts

154 months

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hornetrider said:
Can we kindly get this thread back on topic please.
Done.

ZR1cliff

17,967 posts

134 months

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TheSnitch said:
Jefferies was never charged, remember?

Here's the thing. Bridger has been charged. The CPS will not recommend charging him unless they believe there is sufficient evidence to have a realistic chance of a conviction. At the moment, however, he is charged with several offences, not guilty of them. That remains to be decided at his trial.

I am baffled by the need people have to start looking for other explanations and scenarios - it's only a step away from winding tinfoil around your head and gibbering about missiles and holographic planes imo.

Can't you just wait until the trial? You have no idea how much evidence they may already have. I think if it was my child I wouldn't be keen on people speculating that he ran her over and couldn't deal - especially not when witnesses saw her get into the car. No-one is pinning a guilty badge on him yet - but there sure as hell is no reason to be going around pinning ''innocent'' ones to him either
My thoughts eactly and well put.

hornetrider

48,289 posts

90 months

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Kinky said:
Done.
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ali_kat

26,533 posts

106 months

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TheSnitch said:
Jefferies was never charged, remember?

. No-one is pinning a guilty badge on him yet - but there sure as hell is no reason to be going around pinning ''innocent'' ones to him either
yes but as was discussed yesterday for a couple of pages, others have been, & convicted. Jeffries however had a similar 'hang him' pages set up on FB.

confusedyes look on FB - there are thousands that have pinned him as guilty.

All I & others are saying is, like you, wait until the trial to decide!
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