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ZR1cliff
17,768 posts
118 months
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Welshbeef said: ZR1cliff said: Think it's just going through the motions of remanding him for another week or two.
Looks like the police are stepping up their search tomorrow. A couple of things bother me about this - 1/ he was supposedly seen throwing a black bin liner into the river? why wasn't the police contacted immediately? 2/The time he allegedly abducted April, till the time he was picked up, he could have gone any distance and back in his vehicle. She might be way out of the area? Seen throwing a bag into the river ..... I'm sure I read it on one of the news reports.
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ZR1cliff
17,768 posts
118 months
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rover 623gsi
1,946 posts
30 months
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He may well be lowlife - but some people may think it a sad sign of the times that simply being offensive is a criminal offence.
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Jasandjules
45,357 posts
98 months
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ZR1cliff said: Yet all those calling for the brutal killing of the chap who has now been charged are permitted to do so? Funny old world this - freedom of speech for those views the police agree with then.
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Welshbeef
13,033 posts
67 months
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ZR1cliff said: Bet he thought it would be sick innit in frot of the blood down the endz - somehow I don't think even the roughest of nasty crims would share his amusement at this terrible crime. I'd say he's going to feel mighty stupid and also going to feel a lot of pain from the assults he will suffer.
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ZR1cliff
17,768 posts
118 months
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Jasandjules said: ZR1cliff said: Yet all those calling for the brutal killing of the chap who has now been charged are permitted to do so? Funny old world this - freedom of speech for those views the police agree with then. Think there is a difference, One is public anger coming out and aimed, wrongly or rightly, at Mark Bridger, if he is guilty. Obviously some will be misdirected. The other, by this idiot, is some form of abuse aimed at an abducted little girl's circumstances. You can't link the police with any misdirected anger.
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danjama
861 posts
11 months
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I'd be interested to know what he wrote, if only for comparison to some of the sick s  t i've read from the people who want Bridger hung.
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B17NNS
8,550 posts
116 months
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ZR1cliff said: Jesus wept! Thought police alert. I may not agree with your opinion but I'd defend your right to voice it. What did he say anyway?
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Chrisw666
20,793 posts
68 months
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ZR1cliff said: Before facebook and twitter people told sick jokes, some people laughed at them others didn't. Nobody went to court and the media didn't get themselves all excited over it. If I made a comment on here or on facebook about want to see Bridger hung from a lamppost people will agree with me or ignore it. I wonder what the response to a gag about the poor child would be or perhaps me saying something bad about her family on here or another social network? Neither thing is in good taste but our new media liberal society casually turns a blind eye to the bad taste stuff that it agrees with. The way things are heading using Twitter, facebook or forums will be against the law because holding views that disagree with the majority already seems to be.
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smegmore
1,690 posts
45 months
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Welshbeef said: Bet he thought it would be sick innit in frot of the blood down the endz - somehow I don't think even the roughest of nasty crims would share his amusement at this terrible crime. I'd say he's going to feel mighty stupid and also going to feel a lot of pain from the assults he will suffer. Just take another toke on that spliff baby, it'll all pan out 
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Chrisw666
20,793 posts
68 months
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Welshbeef said: Bet he thought it would be sick innit in frot of the blood down the endz - somehow I don't think even the roughest of nasty crims would share his amusement at this terrible crime. I'd say he's going to feel mighty stupid and also going to feel a lot of pain from the assults he will suffer. So telling a joke in poor taste deserves an assault, but wishing pain or death on someone wholly unconnected to you who has done something that didn't touch your life is entirely appropriate? Double standards?
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odyssey2200
17,432 posts
78 months
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Chrisw666 said: Welshbeef said: Bet he thought it would be sick innit in frot of the blood down the endz - somehow I don't think even the roughest of nasty crims would share his amusement at this terrible crime. I'd say he's going to feel mighty stupid and also going to feel a lot of pain from the assults he will suffer. So telling a joke in poor taste deserves an assault, but wishing pain or death on someone wholly unconnected to you who has done something that didn't touch your life is entirely appropriate? Double standards? I don't read that as Welshbeef calling for him to be assaulted, more pointing out that he should avoid dropping the soap in the shower when we ends up in prison.
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Serendipity72
191 posts
8 months
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R60EST said: No completely innocent person could end up 'in the frame ' like he has . It's fair to assume he's guilty. The British police stitch people up all the time. Remember the Birmingham 6. Or how about Hillsborough? And in Wales we have the horrendous Lynette White stitch up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lynette_Whi...
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Welshbeef
13,033 posts
67 months
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odyssey2200 said: Chrisw666 said: Welshbeef said: Bet he thought it would be sick innit in frot of the blood down the endz - somehow I don't think even the roughest of nasty crims would share his amusement at this terrible crime. I'd say he's going to feel mighty stupid and also going to feel a lot of pain from the assults he will suffer. So telling a joke in poor taste deserves an assault, but wishing pain or death on someone wholly unconnected to you who has done something that didn't touch your life is entirely appropriate? Double standards? I don't read that as Welshbeef calling for him to be assaulted, more pointing out that he should avoid dropping the soap in the shower when we ends up in prison. Exactly. No question he will receive a jail term for his stupidity There are plenty of issues jokes can be made about , sadly this is totally out of order and I'm struggling to see any aspect which could be funny and I'm fond of un pc type jokes.
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mondeoman
6,758 posts
135 months
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A joke is always going to be funny to someone. Just because you thinks its "out of order", doesn't mean it is, whatever the topic.
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z4chris99
5,707 posts
48 months
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he's done nothing wrong in my eyes. sad state of affairs when you get arrested for your own opinion
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Guam
15,243 posts
137 months
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Said this before so going to say it again, there is not and never has been constitutionally protected freedom of speech in this country EXCEPT at speakers corner. There has only been accepted lattitude to say some stuff and not other stuff depending on the period of history.
Its time that was changed and codified imho!
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XCP
10,475 posts
97 months
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Serendipity72 said: R60EST said: No completely innocent person could end up 'in the frame ' like he has . It's fair to assume he's guilty. The British police stitch people up all the time. Remember the Birmingham 6. Or how about Hillsborough? And in Wales we have the horrendous Lynette White stitch up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lynette_Whi... 2 cases in 37 years hardly amounts to 'all the time'.
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Twincam16
27,206 posts
127 months
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Guam said: Said this before so going to say it again, there is not and never has been constitutionally protected freedom of speech in this country EXCEPT at speakers corner. There has only been accepted lattitude to say some stuff and not other stuff depending on the period of history.
Its time that was changed and codified imho! Also, re. people talking about there 'always being sick jokes' etc - well yes, that's true, but the people who told them generally told them to people they knew would find them funny. On Twitter you're telling them to the entire world regardless. Any newspaper with a similar reach and circulation wouldn't dare print that sort of thing or put it on their website so I can't see it being in Twitter's interest to allow that sort of thing. And again, that's not 'curtailing free speech', it's encouraging discretion. No-one's stopping people saying things, but perhaps they shouldn't be saying them quite so publically. Same goes for the press in the aftermath of Leveson. The Press Compaints Commission's differentiation between 'public interest' and 'the interest of the public' needs codifying asap. It'd have the side-effect of strengthening good journalism too - corrupt companies trying to threaten newspapers with injunctions wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court, while the gutter-press types who go to any length to get a photo of someone for the sake of it would find themselves out of a job.
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London424
2,707 posts
44 months
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XCP said: Serendipity72 said: R60EST said: No completely innocent person could end up 'in the frame ' like he has . It's fair to assume he's guilty. The British police stitch people up all the time. Remember the Birmingham 6. Or how about Hillsborough? And in Wales we have the horrendous Lynette White stitch up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lynette_Whi... 2 cases in 37 years hardly amounts to 'all the time'. I think you'd run out of space if you started listing them all out.
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