Police in search for missing 5 year old

[Welshbeef]

singlecoil said:

I'm in the b) group.

The state should either hang such people or lock them up for life but without the attacks.

And I daresay the person who attacked him has a lot of history to be ashamed of too.

If you fully believed that you would have no issue in going up to Aprils parents and sharing your frustration that poor Mr Brigger was assaulted in prison.

I do not and fully stand by hard punishment for such terrible brutal crimes.

[singlecoil]

Welshbeef said:

singlecoil said:

I'm in the b) group.

The state should either hang such people or lock them up for life but without the attacks.

And I daresay the person who attacked him has a lot of history to be ashamed of too.

If you fully believed that you would have no issue in going up to Aprils parents and sharing your frustration that poor Mr Brigger was assaulted in prison.

I do not and fully stand by hard punishment for such terrible brutal crimes.

I'm not in the habit of making posts that I do not 'fully believe', nor am I frustrated in any way. If hard punishment is required it should be administered by the state, and not by people who in all likelihood are in sore need of hard punishment themselves.

[CommanderJameson]

Why bother with prison staff at all, then? Just chuck 'em all in and let 'em "Lord Of The Flies" it out.

I think that maintaining the moral high ground - being better than them - is important.

There are no pleasant conversations to be had when dealing with someone like this.

And yes - I would, personally, to their grieving tear-streaked faces, say that I think justice should be delivered by the criminal justice and prison systems, and not by some other violent prisoner who has probably done his fair share of ruining lives in the past.

There's an interesting book - about people who deal with death in their work, such as police, pathologists, abbatoir workers, soldiers and AIDS counsellors - called "The Forbidden Zone" by Michael Lesy, and one of the people in that book was the commander of death row in an American prison, who oversaw the executions of many people who had done truly awful things.

I don't have the book to hand and it's not widely quoted online, but the gist of his philosophy was that once a prisoner was in the system, it behoves society to treat them with dignity at all times. Not for their benefit, but for ours. He also said that no-one should volunteer to execute another human being. You should have to be ordered to do it. And that's from a chap for whom killing other human beings is part of the job description.

Edit: added link to review of the book in question

[otolith]

If, while making a bomb, a terrorist accidentally blows himself up, the feeling that it was his own bloody fault and no better than he deserved does not necessarily imply that had we caught him alive one would support a judicial blowing to bits. Likewise, not wishing to be party to giving Bridger what he deserves (or negligently allowing someone else to do so) is not inconsistent with the idea that it serves the bd right.

[cossy400]

While I hope it hurts for a long time and he has many sleepless nights over it, is there not a better way to house the lifers?

Like one part of the jail.

[WCZ]

Welshbeef said:

If you fully believed that you would have no issue in going up to Aprils parents and sharing your frustration that poor Mr Brigger was assaulted in prison.

That's illogical, even if you had a big objection to the stabbing then why does that automatically make you insensitive enough to want to provoke April's parents who no doubt believe Mr Brigger deserves lots of physical pain?