Police in search for missing 5 year old

Police in search for missing 5 year old

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ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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R60EST said:
ali_kat said:
R60EST said:
No completely innocent person could end up 'in the frame ' like he has . It's fair to assume he's guilty.
How quickly they forget - 2010, Christopher Jefferies in Clifton, Bristol?
Was Jeffries ever charged ?

Accused maybe . Different status.
Does that matter? He was still put in the frame then hung, drawn & quartered by Joe Public, although being completely innocent.

And tell that to all the innocents that HAVE been charged, found guilty at trial, put in prison for donkey's years & then cleared. It is never safe to assume guilt.

R60EST said:
Do you have kids ?
WTF does that have to do with anything? Am I not allowed to have thoughts because I'm not a parent?

R60EST

2,364 posts

182 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Jaldi said:
R60EST said:
Do you have kids ?
What's that got to do with anything?
Really , you don't know ?

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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R60EST said:
Jaldi said:
R60EST said:
Do you have kids ?
What's that got to do with anything?
Really , you don't know ?
Evidently that makes 2 of us 'cause I've asked too!

okgo

38,001 posts

198 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Jaldi said:
hat's that got to do with anything?
It's another ph favourite, that. Obviously nobody who hasn't got a child has anything worthwhile to say where children are involved.

Haven't even followed this story, have just seen her alleged sister posting about some Facebook page that suggests she is dead when it's not been confirmed. Am I to assume the family are chavs?

bitchstewie

51,115 posts

210 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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R60EST said:
Yes , I agree , once a name has been linked to a certain event they are seen as guilty by a lot of the FB'esque population. However the police and the CPS have gone much further than just linking him with this particular enquiry.
How have the Police directly done that rather than the media inferring things? Genuine question, I've not followed it that closely as the coverage has been ghoulish IMO.

Oakey

27,561 posts

216 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Jaldi said:
R60EST said:
Do you have kids ?
What's that got to do with anything?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSx_42ivLPk&feature=player_detailpage#t=257s

Efbe

9,251 posts

166 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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R60EST said:
Jaldi said:
R60EST said:
Do you have kids ?
What's that got to do with anything?
Really , you don't know ?
Do you have a 5 year old girl with CP? if not, then shut up because you're opinion is irrelevant?!?

R60EST

2,364 posts

182 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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I'm not on any crusade here , I'm just saying unless you do have children it's hard to understand how much it changes your perspective on things. It's not a conscious or considered thought process, more one that you are genetically programmed for.


Efbe

9,251 posts

166 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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R60EST said:
I'm not on any crusade here , I'm just saying unless you do have children it's hard to understand how much it changes your perspective on things. It's not a conscious or considered thought process, more one that you are genetically programmed for.
Doesn't change mine.
I think you just have a st view on justice tbh

R60EST

2,364 posts

182 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Efbe said:
R60EST said:
I'm not on any crusade here , I'm just saying unless you do have children it's hard to understand how much it changes your perspective on things. It's not a conscious or considered thought process, more one that you are genetically programmed for.
Doesn't change mine.
I think you just have a st view on justice tbh
Your opinions matter to me about as much as mine do to you.

Efbe

9,251 posts

166 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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R60EST said:
Your opinions matter to me about as much as mine do to you.
well that's peachy.

but you stated having a girl of this age would change your opinion. it doesn't

Oakey

27,561 posts

216 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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R60EST said:
I'm not on any crusade here , I'm just saying unless you do have children it's hard to understand how much it changes your perspective on things. It's not a conscious or considered thought process, more one that you are genetically programmed for.
Bridger has kids so using your logic he couldn't possibly have done it simply because 'has kids'.

R60EST

2,364 posts

182 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Efbe said:
R60EST said:
Your opinions matter to me about as much as mine do to you.
well that's peachy.

but you stated having a girl of this age would change your opinion. it doesn't
I never mentioned age , I said being a parent , my daughters are in their 20's

voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Efbe said:
Do you have a 5 year old girl with CP? if not, then shut up because you're opinion is irrelevant?!?
It's going to be a short thread if they are the only people allowed to post

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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R60EST said:
I'm not on any crusade here , I'm just saying unless you do have children it's hard to understand how much it changes your perspective on things. It's not a conscious or considered thought process, more one that you are genetically programmed for.
Bullst rofl

R60EST

2,364 posts

182 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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ali_kat said:
Bullst rofl
Yes , parenthood is 'almost' as fulfilling as owning a cat biggrinbiggrin

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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ali_kat said:
R60EST said:
I'm not on any crusade here , I'm just saying unless you do have children it's hard to understand how much it changes your perspective on things. It's not a conscious or considered thought process, more one that you are genetically programmed for.
Bullst rofl
R60EST said:
Yes , parenthood is 'almost' as fulfilling as owning a cat biggrinbiggrin
WTF does that have to do with anything?

I'll amend my status, what the fk does the fact that I've no living children due to 2 (yes TWO) miscarriages, have anything to do with my ability to have an opnion on this & the bullst you spout?

Other than making you look a complete idiot?

Finlandia

7,803 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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R60EST said:
Yes , parenthood is 'almost' as fulfilling as owning a cat biggrinbiggrin
Give it a rest. Thank you.

R60EST

2,364 posts

182 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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OK , my last post on the subject . To sum up

I think the balance of probabilities will show this person is guilty as charged . If ,and I mean if , he his I hope he gets what ever punishment he is due.

I think that giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying he is probably innocent does not help the anguish that those immediately involved in this case are going through , so much so , it's rather insensitive , a point which may not be fully appreciated by some one who has not experienced parenthood.

That is all , it's just my opinion , it's not a statement of fact or a desire to provoke a reaction.

Getragdogleg

8,763 posts

183 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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clockworks said:
I think what was being suggested above was that the guy was driving down the street she was playing in (possibly drunk, explaining the "erratic driving") and ran into her. He panicked, pulled her into the car, and drove off.
Maybe he intended to take her to hospital, but, realising that she was dead, he disposed of the body in an attempt to cover it up.

Makes a lot more sense to me than abducting her. Not the sort of thing that a family man does to other people's kids, surely?

Put yourself in his shoes, if a drunken RTA was what happened. You are driving drunk. You hit a child, who your own kids play with and go to school with. She's dead. Could you face up to the consequences of stopping there and waiting for the police to arrive. You'd be seen as a murderer by your neighbours anyway.
The other choices are covering it up, and going off to top yourself.
Yes, this is the sort of thing I was thinking of.