Police in search for missing 5 year old

Police in search for missing 5 year old

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Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Guilty of what?

"Causing death" is not a legal term. He will either be convicted of murder, manslaughter, death through negligence, or he will be found not guilty of anything.

That is what the courts will decide - unless he confesses, of course.

Digga

40,316 posts

283 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Chrisw666 said:
BBC reporting Bridger crying in court as the charges were read out, so perhaps not your average sociopath.
That or he knows what else he'll be charged with if/when the body is ever recovered.

Twincam16

27,646 posts

258 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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blindswelledrat said:
Twincam16 said:
Also, you're forgetting Rich1231's habit of treating me like some kind of special case for reasons I've never quite been able to fathom.

He'll probably quote this post now, with something witty, erudite and cultured like 'fk off and die you fking tt.' He's nice like that.
BUt in this case, he has a reasonable point. Your post has him convicted and is exploring his mindset whilst doing it and speculating as to his muderous intentions. Based on a sum total of no facts or evidence.
You've got to admit that it's a bit too PH for comfort.
I can't see anything 'convicting' about my post. Like everything on here (and everything said in the press, everything outside the courts and police, frankly), it is speculation, which isn't illegal.

All my post did was respond to the FACT that he'd been crying in court, which isn't usually the response of a psychopath. At no point have I categorically said 'he did it' or 'he didn't do it', I have merely speculated.

As has just about everyone else on this thread, but ask yourself why Rich1231 has decided to single out my post in among hundreds of others saying similarly speculative things. It's just Rich being Rich. Heck, there are people elsewhere on this site calling for him to be hanged! No sign of Rich there.

Frik

Original Poster:

13,542 posts

243 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Guilty of what?

"Causing death" is not a legal term. He will either be convicted of murder, manslaughter, death through negligence, or he will be found not guilty of anything.

That is what the courts will decide - unless he confesses, of course.
You're being obtuse, Eric. The wording of TC's post implied that he was involved in the death of the girl, his speculation was that he did not commit murder.

In much the same way that TC is accusing rich1231 of persecution, really.

Apache

39,731 posts

284 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Twincam16 said:
blindswelledrat said:
Twincam16 said:
Also, you're forgetting Rich1231's habit of treating me like some kind of special case for reasons I've never quite been able to fathom.

He'll probably quote this post now, with something witty, erudite and cultured like 'fk off and die you fking tt.' He's nice like that.
BUt in this case, he has a reasonable point. Your post has him convicted and is exploring his mindset whilst doing it and speculating as to his muderous intentions. Based on a sum total of no facts or evidence.
You've got to admit that it's a bit too PH for comfort.
I can't see anything 'convicting' about my post. Like everything on here (and everything said in the press, everything outside the courts and police, frankly), it is speculation, which isn't illegal.

All my post did was respond to the FACT that he'd been crying in court, which isn't usually the response of a psychopath. At no point have I categorically said 'he did it' or 'he didn't do it', I have merely speculated.

As has just about everyone else on this thread, but ask yourself why Rich1231 has decided to single out my post in among hundreds of others saying similarly speculative things. It's just Rich being Rich. Heck, there are people elsewhere on this site calling for him to be hanged! No sign of Rich there.
He's bored...there's no threads about relationships to keep him busy

Gogoplata

1,266 posts

160 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Eric Mc said:
London424 said:
XCP said:
Serendipity72 said:
R60EST said:
No completely innocent person could end up 'in the frame ' like he has . It's fair to assume he's guilty.
The British police stitch people up all the time.
Remember the Birmingham 6. Or how about Hillsborough?
And in Wales we have the horrendous Lynette White stitch up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lynette_Whi...
2 cases in 37 years hardly amounts to 'all the time'.
I think you'd run out of space if you started listing them all out.
Absolutely - there have been hundreds.
Barry George seems to spring to mind, especially with the similarities in how the case has been handled by the media.

Twincam16

27,646 posts

258 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Gogoplata said:
Eric Mc said:
London424 said:
XCP said:
Serendipity72 said:
R60EST said:
No completely innocent person could end up 'in the frame ' like he has . It's fair to assume he's guilty.
The British police stitch people up all the time.
Remember the Birmingham 6. Or how about Hillsborough?
And in Wales we have the horrendous Lynette White stitch up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lynette_Whi...
2 cases in 37 years hardly amounts to 'all the time'.
I think you'd run out of space if you started listing them all out.
Absolutely - there have been hundreds.
Barry George seems to spring to mind, especially with the similarities in how the case has been handled by the media.
I think the most significant case in this sense was that of Timothy Evans, which itself brought about the abolition of the death penalty due to the miscarriage of justic involved.

Evans' wife and daughter were found dead in the outhouse behind his home. He was known as a bit of a neighbourhood weirdo as it was and the police beat a confession out of him. He was hanged for the murders.

However, had the case been investigated properly rather than on the basis of 'we've got 'im, hang 'im!', they would have searched the house - a certain No. 10 Rillington Place - and found the place littered with bodies, all the handiwork of his next-door neighbour, John Reginald Christie.

The police actually questioned Christie during the case and let him go. After Evans was hanged, Christie murdered four more people including his own wife.

It took police over ten years to admit Timothy Evans was innocent.

Oakey

27,564 posts

216 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Twincam16 said:
I think the most significant case in this sense was that of Timothy Evans, which itself brought about the abolition of the death penalty due to the miscarriage of justic involved.

Evans' wife and daughter were found dead in the outhouse behind his home. He was known as a bit of a neighbourhood weirdo as it was and the police beat a confession out of him. He was hanged for the murders.

However, had the case been investigated properly rather than on the basis of 'we've got 'im, hang 'im!', they would have searched the house - a certain No. 10 Rillington Place - and found the place littered with bodies, all the handiwork of his next-door neighbour, John Reginald Christie.

The police actually questioned Christie during the case and let him go. After Evans was hanged, Christie murdered four more people including his own wife.

It took police over ten years to admit Timothy Evans was innocent.
It took Colin Stagg and Shirley Mackie about ten years to get an apology as well.

TITWONK

530 posts

167 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Timothy Evans made several statements admitting he killed his wife him self though! so he didnt give police a reason to look elsewhere. He basically framed him self.

TITWONK

530 posts

167 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Agh I see what you mean sorry, the police made Evans make these false statements! duh! smile

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

176 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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z4chris99 said:
he's done nothing wrong in my eyes. sad state of affairs when you get arrested for your own opinion
So publicly mocking a murdered 5 year old and making 'fun' (on a mass/world reach stage) out of her abduction and murder is "doing nothing wrong" just because it represents freedom of speech?

Don't arrest me for this, it's only me expressing my view using my freedom of speech, but you are a prize prat.

XCP

16,913 posts

228 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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I have not seen any evidence that he was beaten either. I have read Kennedys book on the subject and he doesn't suggest that this happened. I'd be interested to see the source for the 'beating'.

z4chris99

11,276 posts

179 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Lost_BMW said:
z4chris99 said:
he's done nothing wrong in my eyes. sad state of affairs when you get arrested for your own opinion
So publicly mocking a murdered 5 year old and making 'fun' (on a mass/world reach stage) out of her abduction and murder is "doing nothing wrong" just because it represents freedom of speech?

Don't arrest me for this, it's only me expressing my view using my freedom of speech, but you are a prize prat.
although i dont agree with his views i agree with the right to express them. Just like if you want to call me a prat your entitled to in my mind.

How many people have made jokes about April and Maddy etc... should we lock them up too??



TobyLaRohne

5,713 posts

206 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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z4chris99 said:
call me a prat, your entitled to in my mind.
PRAT!!! hehe

...carry on.

z4chris99

11,276 posts

179 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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having just read the joke i thought it was pretty funny.... there has been far worse written..

not sure if im allowed to post it here?

danjama

5,728 posts

142 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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z4chris99 said:
having just read the joke i thought it was pretty funny.... there has been far worse written..

not sure if im allowed to post it here?
Go for it IMO.

Mr Roper

13,002 posts

194 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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I'd prefer you didn't.

PeanutHead

7,839 posts

170 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Mr Roper said:
I'd prefer you didn't.
+1
Wrong thread if you don't mind.

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

199 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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PeanutHead said:
Mr Roper said:
I'd prefer you didn't.
+1
Wrong thread if you don't mind.
There are some delicate people online nowadays.

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Mr Roper said:
I'd prefer you didn't.
I think PH would prefer it if you didn't as well.