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Mr_B said:
Please only complain if you felt compeled to do so before you saw it on the internet telling you to do so. It smacks of people who complain about TV shows they never saw, but read about a week later in a newspaper and religious people moaning about being offended and trying to organise complaints together.
I haven't complained - but are you suggesting that the manner in which you see something determines your right to be upset by it?Mr_B said:
Please only complain if you felt compeled to do so before you saw it on the internet telling you to do so. It smacks of people who complain about TV shows they never saw, but read about a week later in a newspaper and religious people moaning about being offended and trying to organise complaints together.
Yes I did.
Eric Mc said:
Mr_B said:
Please only complain if you felt compeled to do so before you saw it on the internet telling you to do so. It smacks of people who complain about TV shows they never saw, but read about a week later in a newspaper and religious people moaning about being offended and trying to organise complaints together.
I haven't complained - but are you suggesting that the manner in which you see something determines your right to be upset by it?There is also the internet thing with people telling you to complain and provide a link. I bet a lot more people do so when it's there and other encourage you to do so with an easy link. Without out it, people may well be appalled, but forget about it 30 seconds later and wouldn't otherwise bother to seek out complaining. I think it devalues it when people start campaigns to get individuals to complain.
Basically , think individually.
Mr_B said:
Eric Mc said:
Mr_B said:
Please only complain if you felt compeled to do so before you saw it on the internet telling you to do so. It smacks of people who complain about TV shows they never saw, but read about a week later in a newspaper and religious people moaning about being offended and trying to organise complaints together.
I haven't complained - but are you suggesting that the manner in which you see something determines your right to be upset by it?There is also the internet thing with people telling you to complain and provide a link. I bet a lot more people do so when it's there and other encourage you to do so with an easy link. Without out it, people may well be appalled, but forget about it 30 seconds later and wouldn't otherwise bother to seek out complaining. I think it devalues it when people start campaigns to get individuals to complain.
Basically , think individually.
Mr_B said:
It's several things. Take the Brand/Ross radio thing. Hardly anyone who heard it complained. When it made the Daily Mail, people complained about a show and presenter they didn't like and avoided. Some didn't go and listen to the show, they just complained anyway. Some did and didn't understand or know how it was a set up with Sachs already in the know about what they were going to say.
There is also the internet thing with people telling you to complain and provide a link. I bet a lot more people do so when it's there and other encourage you to do so with an easy link. Without out it, people may well be appalled, but forget about it 30 seconds later and wouldn't otherwise bother to seek out complaining. I think it devalues it when people start campaigns to get individuals to complain.
Basically , think individually.
The trouble is, we only find out about events through the media - so everything, in effect, is a reaction to the media's reporting of the event - rather than the event itself.There is also the internet thing with people telling you to complain and provide a link. I bet a lot more people do so when it's there and other encourage you to do so with an easy link. Without out it, people may well be appalled, but forget about it 30 seconds later and wouldn't otherwise bother to seek out complaining. I think it devalues it when people start campaigns to get individuals to complain.
Basically , think individually.
It's a bit of a dilemma - but has been an issue since newspapers began to become important in the 17th century.
Eric Mc said:
Mr_B said:
It's several things. Take the Brand/Ross radio thing. Hardly anyone who heard it complained. When it made the Daily Mail, people complained about a show and presenter they didn't like and avoided. Some didn't go and listen to the show, they just complained anyway. Some did and didn't understand or know how it was a set up with Sachs already in the know about what they were going to say.
There is also the internet thing with people telling you to complain and provide a link. I bet a lot more people do so when it's there and other encourage you to do so with an easy link. Without out it, people may well be appalled, but forget about it 30 seconds later and wouldn't otherwise bother to seek out complaining. I think it devalues it when people start campaigns to get individuals to complain.
Basically , think individually.
The trouble is, we only find out about events through the media - so everything, in effect, is a reaction to the media's reporting of the event - rather than the event itself.There is also the internet thing with people telling you to complain and provide a link. I bet a lot more people do so when it's there and other encourage you to do so with an easy link. Without out it, people may well be appalled, but forget about it 30 seconds later and wouldn't otherwise bother to seek out complaining. I think it devalues it when people start campaigns to get individuals to complain.
Basically , think individually.
It's a bit of a dilemma - but has been an issue since newspapers began to become important in the 17th century.
I don't watch Sky because I've seen it and formed the opinion it is mostly rubbish. So when Kay Burley says something stupid, I think pretty much the norm with them and can ignore it.
As soon as I hear that a show or similar attracted 5 complaints after being broadcast, but then got thousands after a newspaper told me there was outrage, I know that complaint has now become almost worthless.
Mr_B said:
Please only complain if you felt compeled to do so before you saw it on the internet telling you to do so. It smacks of people who complain about TV shows they never saw, but read about a week later in a newspaper and religious people moaning about being offended and trying to organise complaints together.
Are you arguing for well informed, and respectful restraint when passing comment on Kay Burley?Stupendously ironic.
captainzep said:
Mr_B said:
Please only complain if you felt compeled to do so before you saw it on the internet telling you to do so. It smacks of people who complain about TV shows they never saw, but read about a week later in a newspaper and religious people moaning about being offended and trying to organise complaints together.
Are you arguing for well informed, and respectful restraint when passing comment on Kay Burley?Stupendously ironic.
Its the way she sort of follows it up with a 'how do you feel about that' type comment.
You'd feel like saying, we've been searching day and night in dreadful cold, wet conditions, we're tired, emotional and worried and now you tell us that a little girl, a 5 year old daughter from our small community is very likely to have died in a very gruesome manner, how the fck do you think we feel about it you incredibly stupid insensitive cow.
You'd feel like saying, we've been searching day and night in dreadful cold, wet conditions, we're tired, emotional and worried and now you tell us that a little girl, a 5 year old daughter from our small community is very likely to have died in a very gruesome manner, how the fck do you think we feel about it you incredibly stupid insensitive cow.
onyx39 said:
captainzep said:
Mr_B said:
Please only complain if you felt compeled to do so before you saw it on the internet telling you to do so. It smacks of people who complain about TV shows they never saw, but read about a week later in a newspaper and religious people moaning about being offended and trying to organise complaints together.
Are you arguing for well informed, and respectful restraint when passing comment on Kay Burley?Stupendously ironic.
I think Mr B was suggesting that people shouldn't speculate ignorantly.
I don't feel Ms. Burley has earned that respectful approach seeing as she chooses to be a mouthy, ignorant, speculator every f
king day. captainzep said:
Unh?
I think Mr B was suggesting that people shouldn't speculate ignorantly.
I don't feel Ms. Burley has earned that respectful approach seeing as she chooses to be a mouthy, ignorant, speculator every fking day.
I urged nothing more than for people to think for themselves and not devalue complaints.I think Mr B was suggesting that people shouldn't speculate ignorantly.
I don't feel Ms. Burley has earned that respectful approach seeing as she chooses to be a mouthy, ignorant, speculator every f
king day. 
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