Ofgem warns of blackouts within 3 years

Ofgem warns of blackouts within 3 years

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PRTVR

7,091 posts

221 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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superlightr said:
So home generators - Any sugegstions as to what to get? Combination of things? - Serious question.
No help with your question, but if you go down this route you will be in good company,
It was reported that the British CEO of a major energy company has had one fitted to his house,it shows how much faith he has in his ability to keep the light on.rolleyes

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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PRTVR said:
superlightr said:
So home generators - Any sugegstions as to what to get? Combination of things? - Serious question.
No help with your question, but if you go down this route you will be in good company,
It was reported that the British CEO of a major energy company has had one fitted to his house,it shows how much faith he has in his ability to keep the light on.rolleyes
complete farce really...

if electric costs keep rising too, it's already pretty marginal cost wise compared to running your own off-grid genset (and that's before you use it for any heat recovery system).

if you think about it, if we all went down this route, the green lobby will have shot themselves in the foot big time, as the total CO2 output per KWh would rise significantly....

Wills2

22,756 posts

175 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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I would imagine you would be talking 5k-10k for even a modest integrated generator system?


turbobloke

103,861 posts

260 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Wills2 said:
I would imagine you would be talking 5k-10k for even a modest integrated generator system?
Depends on integration method...and your choice of generator.

Due to the nature of TB Towers and the location of kit I want to keep power for, I've got two petrol powered generators, basically one front and one back. Both were bought second hand (the cheapest cost £100) a couple of years ago. I'd have to go and check the make and precise output, and can do, but not now. They're nothing special but they work. I hadn't heard of the make / name before I bought them.

The 'integration' is unworthy of the term - basic and dirt cheap. There are fish eye type battery powered wall mounted lights in key locations, push operated, which let us get around when the lights go out, including to the generators. These have sockets for normal extension lead plugs. With two or three appliances running to below maximum at any one time off them, it's good enough. Microwave, desktop pc and table lamp or whatever can be supplied. One is used purely for a small freezer.

A laptop with dongle and a battery powered radio complete the set-up, very simple indeed. Oh yes, nearly forgot, there is also Damart and candles smile

The fiddliest bit for this workable lash-up was making sure the exhaust gases could vent safely from each location, one trickier than the other.

Edited by turbobloke on Monday 8th October 22:50

eldar

21,708 posts

196 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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AnimalMkIV said:
Somewhere between 8-12 years for nuclear compared to 4-6 for coal/gas.

We need to build something (ideally, half a dozen somethings) and we need to have started last year.

There are (I think) 6 sites already pre-approved for new nuclear power stations (Sellafield certainly) and essentially just need the funding approved.
That is true. Funding is a problem, it is a large chunk of money to invest in building a nuke power station. The upside is the fuel costs are largely fixed (there is stloads of uranium available from reliable sources), and they run baseload at 99% capacity. Very long term investments, which need political stability.

The new reactors won't get to the go/no go decisions until 2015/2016, and if go the earliest grid feed won't start until 2022. Interesting times.

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

176 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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The Don of Croy said:
Mojocvh said:
Couple of points.

1.Could you be so kind as to detail the levels of subsidy that the nuclear industry has had since it's inception?

2. What has the nuclear industry done for the last 20 years ? [ apart from sit on it's subsidised profits and watch it's infrastructure crumble around itself].

thankx.

but no thanxs.
Whilst I'm not actually in the pay of the nuclear lobby, nor the military-industrial complex, I do hold a candle for nuclear power. But if either group wants to slip me a bung please PM first...

A lot of very big numbers are routinely touted for the cost of nuclear, particularly the de-commissioning. Currently taking place at Dounreay I believe. But who is doing it and where is the money going? If a private company or PLC were working on a contract paying x billion for the next 25 years would we not have heard of it? Or, if totally in-house then the numbers would be published by the relevant department.

I'm not saying it is not happening, but try finding where all this money is going and it is not immediately obvious. They wouldn't lie to us, would they?
I really wouldn't worry about debating with Mo, he's been convinced that he's going to die because of Fukishima and has become quite tiresome incessant about the subject. Also has lots of anti-nukes graphics he's (all too) keen to share.

hidetheelephants

24,167 posts

193 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Grünkraft? Nein danke.

I have the world's noisiest lister aircooled diesel genny with which I propose to annoy my neighbours in the event of a power cut. It's only rated at 3 KVA but it'll run on the smell of a oily rag and hand starting it is good exercise. Best of all it was free! Just need to speak to the farmer about a drop of red.

Blib

43,968 posts

197 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Report: Mexico, U.K. lead globe in energy security

http://fuelfix.com/blog/2012/10/15/report-mexico-u...

Article said:
Mexico and the United Kingdom are international energy security leaders that are better insulated from supply disruptions and less reliant on foreign power sources than the United States, according to a report released today.
Article said:
The United Kingdom, meanwhile, has the potential to edge higher in future years, if the country does more to exploit the potential natural gas resources locked in shale rock formations, Harbert said.
I do not believe that I will live long enough to see our country exploit the enormous and game changing shale gas reserves for their fullest extent. Ignorance, fear and manipulation of the populace by scaremongering NGOs will scupper any meaningful production for years, even decades.

Otispunkmeyer

12,580 posts

155 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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hidetheelephants said:
Grünkraft? Nein danke.

I have the world's noisiest lister aircooled diesel genny with which I propose to annoy my neighbours in the event of a power cut. It's only rated at 3 KVA but it'll run on the smell of a oily rag and hand starting it is good exercise. Best of all it was free! Just need to speak to the farmer about a drop of red.
I got shown an old engine that runs on parafin today.... you need to start it with a shotgun cartridge apparently! my kind of machine.