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Poll: Post EU Britain

Total Members Polled: 40

EFTA:
40%
NAFTA:
20%
Bilateral agreements:
20%
Other:
20%
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AJS-

Original Poster:

11,903 posts

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I wasn't going to do a poll, but the question seems to lend itself to it, so here we go.

Since it seems like we are having a referendum on Europe at some point, and it's quite likely Britain will be leaving the EU, what arrangements would you like to see for a post EU Britain.

The main two options seem to be either EFTA or simply bilateral agreements with whatever countries we trade with. A couple of people mentioned NAFTA. Any other ideas?

loafer123

3,330 posts

102 months

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If the EU needs to split becuase political union becomes a fact for Eurozone survivors, the EFTA will evolve into the trading block version quite easily.

greygoose

3,022 posts

82 months

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Are we having a referendum on the EU? The conservatives ran away from it, the lib dems and labour have no interest in a referendum as they like the EU.

AJS-

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It's been mentioned quite a bit recently, and many are now talking openly about political union, which seems like a natural catalyst for a referendum.

loafer123

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If the EU needs to split becuase political union becomes a fact for Eurozone survivors, the EFTA will evolve into the trading block version quite easily.

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loafer123

3,330 posts

102 months

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If the EU needs to split becuase political union becomes a fact for Eurozone survivors, the EFTA will evolve into the trading block version quite easily.

s2art

13,884 posts

140 months

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Why not NAFTA and EFTA? I dont think these are exclusive.

AJS-

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s2art said:
Why not NAFTA and EFTA? I dont think these are exclusive.
That would mean essentially merging EFTA and NAFTA. I've heard worse ideas.

Ozzie Osmond

16,304 posts

133 months

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Come on, you know you all want to wind the clock back to Empire, Britannia Rules the Waves, we won the war, 1966, and all the other rose-tinted British dreams.

Ain't gonna happen. Never was. Never will be.



s2art

13,884 posts

140 months

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Ozzie Osmond said:
Come on, you know you all want to wind the clock back to Empire, Britannia Rules the Waves, we won the war, 1966, and all the other rose-tinted British dreams.

Ain't gonna happen. Never was. Never will be.
You are delusional. Getting out of a failed experiment has nothing to do with what is ancient history.

kuzushi

226 posts

29 months

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Ozzie Osmond said:
Come on, you know you all want to wind the clock back to Empire, Britannia Rules the Waves, we won the war, 1966, and all the other rose-tinted British dreams.

Ain't gonna happen. Never was. Never will be.
Never was, eh?

So, Britain never had an empire, the Royal Navy was never the dominant maritime force for much of the nineteenth century, Britain was on the losing side in WW2, and England didn't win the world cup in 1966?

Breadvan72

19,898 posts

50 months

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Well, strictly speaking, the ball didn't cross the line.

Somewhatfoolish

3,670 posts

73 months

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kuzushi said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
Come on, you know you all want to wind the clock back to Empire, Britannia Rules the Waves, we won the war, 1966, and all the other rose-tinted British dreams.

Ain't gonna happen. Never was. Never will be.
Never was, eh?

So, Britain never had an empire, the Royal Navy was never the dominant maritime force for much of the nineteenth century, Britain was on the losing side in WW2, and England didn't win the world cup in 1966?
Nah that's just something tories made up. Everyone knows that from the 14th century onwards Britain was ruled by a steering committee of black lesbian dwarves apppointed to represent their local collective

Ozzie Osmond

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s2art said:
You are delusional.
And you are terminally stupid.

Wow, that really moved the debate forward.

Back on topic, you guys have your heads buried deep in the sand. Go and visit central London; ride on the tube; visit Oxford St. The UK as you dream of it has ceased to exist. London is a global city and has no alternative but to try to maintain that status. It's the financial capital of EU. Leave the EU and you are left standing proud but holding absolutely nothing. Nothing at all. All the politicians know that. It's only the tabloid readers who still cling on to their dreams.

s2art

13,884 posts

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Ozzie Osmond said:
And you are terminally stupid.

Wow, that really moved the debate forward.

Back on topic, you guys have your heads buried deep in the sand. Go and visit central London; ride on the tube; visit Oxford St. The UK as you dream of it has ceased to exist. London is a global city and has no alternative but to try to maintain that status. It's the financial capital of EU. Leave the EU and you are left standing proud but holding absolutely nothing. Nothing at all. All the politicians know that. It's only the tabloid readers who still cling on to their dreams.
Wrong again. London is a global financial centre, not the EU financial capital. London, New York and Tokyo are the big three. If anything the EU financial centre is where the ECB is. Leaving the EU would not change Londons status. Do you think Zurich, Switzerland (number 4) is in the EU? Has that harmed it? If you think so, think again.

smegmore

2,837 posts

63 months

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I voted other. I'm all for free trade with Europe but not as a subservient member but to promote better trade links with Commonwealth and other countries.

AJS-

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What a bizarre line of argument Ozzie. It seems like you have invented your own version of what eurosceptics want and then decided it won't happen. Where is anyone except you talking about Britannia ruling the waves or winning football tournaments?

Of course it isn't an entirely unfamiliar line of argument either, it is the one used to deride as "little Englanders" anyone who doesn't agree with a federal Europe. It always seems to me to reveal a very narrow view of the world where the only alternative to one brand of wrong headed state worship is another brand of it.

markcoznottz

2,653 posts

111 months

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Ozzie Osmond said:
And you are terminally stupid.

Wow, that really moved the debate forward.

Back on topic, you guys have your heads buried deep in the sand. Go and visit central London; ride on the tube; visit Oxford St. The UK as you dream of it has ceased to exist. London is a global city and has no alternative but to try to maintain that status. It's the financial capital of EU. Leave the EU and you are left standing proud but holding absolutely nothing. Nothing at all. All the politicians know that. It's only the tabloid readers who still cling on to their dreams.
Exactly we are a dynamic economy hence why we don't need eu dictats. They give us our own money back so what is the point. We don't need anymore legislation. Would Germany stop selling us Porsche BMW Audi if we stopped eu contributions? Would they fk. And while we're at it lets control who we let in the country. Uncontrolled immigration isn't clever we need the right kind of people coming in.

thinfourth2

30,565 posts

91 months

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smegmore said:
I voted other. I'm all for free trade with Europe but not as a subservient member but to promote better trade links with Commonwealth and other countries.
Sod europe

Why trade with a bunch of countries that are circling the plughole

Lets trade with india, china and the far east as lets face it. We are the best engineers.................... in the world

Elroy Blue

6,627 posts

79 months

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Do people actually really believe that when Cameron said he would 'revisit' the referendum question he actually meant we would get one.
It's a cheap attempt to get votes. I can't believe people are still that gullible.
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