Nine in Ten Scots households take more than they give

[RDM]

mrmr96 said:

Why would I pay more tax as a result of cutting off Scotland, a net drain on the public purse?
I recognise that I may not pay less tax, and that Whitehall will just spend it on something else - but at least the "something else" is likely to South of the border.

Further down the article says:
"According to the most recent figures, Scotland contributed 9.6 per cent of Britain’s tax take and accounted for 9.3 per cent of public spending."

So Scotland contributes more in tax than it receives in spending.

Did you read the article...

[mrmr96]

RDM said:

mrmr96 said:

Why would I pay more tax as a result of cutting off Scotland, a net drain on the public purse?
I recognise that I may not pay less tax, and that Whitehall will just spend it on something else - but at least the "something else" is likely to South of the border.

Further down the article says:
"According to the most recent figures, Scotland contributed 9.6 per cent of Britain’s tax take and accounted for 9.3 per cent of public spending."

So Scotland contributes more in tax than it receives in spending.

Did you read the article...

On the Scottish Gov website it says this:
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Statistics/Brows...

"Net Fiscal Balance: In 2010-11, Scotland’s estimated net fiscal balance was a deficit of £17.9 billion (14.7 per cent of GDP) when including a per capita share of North Sea revenue or a deficit of £10.7 billion (7.4 per cent of GDP) when a geographical share of North Sea revenue is included.

In 2010-11, the equivalent UK position including 100 per cent of North Sea revenue, referred to in the UK Public Sector Accounts as ‘net borrowing’, was a deficit of £136.1 billion (or 9.2 per cent of GDP)."

Scotland has a higher deficit than the UK as a whole, and as such the UK public purse would be better off without Scotland.

[voyds9]

Just think of the job creation opportunities for England when Cumbernauld is closed and moved south of the border.
I would suggest a northern industrial town, cheap land and plenty of bodies to fill the place.

[XCP]

So as an English tax payer, is Scottish independence a good idea or not?
Is there a yes or no answer?

[anonymous-user]

And lets not forget the political makeup of Scotland.
Its a socialist / labour heartland meaning it will be big tax and anti-business.

That 1 in 10 who are net contributors in Scotland will soon be driven out by the hang wringing lefties that will be governing them.

[neil_w]

I'm sure I read an article in the Sunday Times at the weekend that mentioned on this same measure England scores 13%.

[Justayellowbadge]

RDM said:

mrmr96 said:

Why would I pay more tax as a result of cutting off Scotland, a net drain on the public purse?
I recognise that I may not pay less tax, and that Whitehall will just spend it on something else - but at least the "something else" is likely to South of the border.

Further down the article says:
"According to the most recent figures, Scotland contributed 9.6 per cent of Britain’s tax take and accounted for 9.3 per cent of public spending."

So Scotland contributes more in tax than it receives in spending.

Did you read the article...

Think you are making a tiny error there.

If public spending outstrips tax take, and I believe it does, hence the defecit, 9.3% of spending could be significantly more than 9.6% of the tax, could it not?

[mrmr96]

XCP said:

So as an English tax payer, is Scottish independence a good idea or not?
Is there a yes or no answer?

I think "yes".

[OdramaSwimLaden]

thinfourth2 said:

OdramaSwimLaden said:

SCOTLAND DOES NOT HAVE AN ECONOMY TO SUPPORT IT'S SPENDING NEEDS.

Yeah and england is just doing fking brilliant isn't it

Not well enough that we couldn't afford to jettison some excess baggage...

[IroningMan]

mrmr96 said:

XCP said:

So as an English tax payer, is Scottish independence a good idea or not?
Is there a yes or no answer?

I think "yes".

It will depend entirely on the settlement agreed by the two governments - and you're not going to see any sign of that until after 2014.

[thinfourth2]

OdramaSwimLaden said:

thinfourth2 said:

OdramaSwimLaden said:

SCOTLAND DOES NOT HAVE AN ECONOMY TO SUPPORT IT'S SPENDING NEEDS.

Yeah and england is just doing fking brilliant isn't it

Not well enough that we couldn't afford to jettison some excess baggage...

The welsh

Its where the DVLA are

[sd477667]

Surely they can have a taster of independence - cut 50% of their benefits and public sector staff.

[thinfourth2]

sd477667 said:

Surely they can have a taster of independence - cut 50% of their benefits and public sector staff.

Sounds like a plan to me

[OlberJ]

sd477667 said:

Surely they can have a taster of independence - cut 50% of their benefits and public sector staff.

They?

Is this an English forum?

[anonymous-user]

OlberJ said:

They?

Is this an English forum?

Apparently we're all from the same tribe/village/country

[RS16i]

If we're such a burden to England why the fk are there so many of you lot living up here?

[Some Gump]

fking hell. Can't we all just get along? Scots - the modern english aren't trying to rape / pillage you, you can move on from the persecution crap. Southerners - give the svots a break, they're mstly pretty damn decent people. And hell, it's not like they're from birmingham, is it?

[sd477667]

RS16i said:

If we're such a burden to England why the fk are there so many of you lot living up here?

I'd imagine there are more sweaties down here than English up there, will there be forced repatriation as part of independence?

[whoami]

sd477667 said:

RS16i said:

If we're such a burden to England why the fk are there so many of you lot living up here?

I'd imagine there are more sweaties down here than English up there, will there be forced repatriation as part of independence?

Are you a little bit tired again?

[thinfourth2]

In another recent survey it was discovered that 100% of westminister governments spend more then they earn