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Lord Carey in epic homophobic Godwin outburst

Lord Carey in epic homophobic Godwin outburst

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Breadvan72

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21,579 posts

60 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/10/08/gay-mar...

Lord Carey
Hates all fairies
So he says
Stuff that's scary

E J Thribb 17 3/4

Marf

22,907 posts

138 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Irrelevant old fart is irrelevant.

Breadvan72

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Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Oops, my bad, meant Godwin, typed Goodwin.

dazren

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158 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Breadvan72 said:
Oops, my bad, meant Godwin, typed Goodwin.
sorted.

Breadvan72

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Wednesday 10th October 2012
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thankage

Eric Mc

82,299 posts

162 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Fred?

Justayellowbadge

35,231 posts

139 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Loving the suggestion that the right to gay marriage is, in fact, a restriction of freedom.

Idiot.

Marf

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138 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Justayellowbadge said:
Loving the suggestion that the right to gay marriage is, in fact, a restriction of freedom.

Idiot.
Trying to apply logic to the religious is like trying to collect water in a colander. Frustrating and pointless.

shakotan

7,606 posts

93 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Religion has no place in Government.

Marf

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138 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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shakotan said:
Religion has no place in the world.
EFA

IainT

9,762 posts

135 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Had to explain Godwin's law to SWMBO last night after she read out his foolish comments.

Still, it's nice of the pointless old never-was to concede the argument before it really got going.

Breadvan72

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Wednesday 10th October 2012
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The Archbigot wishes to enhance the freedom to be ignorant and fearful by reference to the arbitrary rulings of his imaginary friend.

MycroftWard

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110 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Marf said:
Trying to apply logic to the religious is like trying to collect water in a colander. Frustrating and pointless.
Hear hear.

otolith

29,296 posts

101 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Because disagreeing with a religious viewpoint is a more Nazi-esque thing to do that trying to restrict the civil rights of gay people?

Another example of why Lords reform is needed.

Digga

15,293 posts

180 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Marf said:
Justayellowbadge said:
Loving the suggestion that the right to gay marriage is, in fact, a restriction of freedom.

Idiot.
Trying to apply logic to the religious is like trying to collect water in a colander. Frustrating and pointless.
TBH I don't quite follow why a gay couple would want a 'marraige' when they already (quite rightly) have the option of civil partnerships.

Surely the established religions are generally homophobes and, I guess, will remain so for some time, so why the desire to be a part of that crap?

Mr E

16,418 posts

156 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Except the quote that's been reported (and repeated here) is not quite the same when the full quote is considered in context.




[Lord Carey] rejected suggestions that the true “bigots” were those who advocated gay marriage and would not listen to legitimate concerns of religious groups who disagreed.

“Let’s have a sensible debate about this, not call people names,” he said. “Let’s remember that the Jews in Nazi Germany, what started it all against them was when they started being called names. That was the first stage towards that totalitarian state.”




Discussed here;
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscienc...

otolith

29,296 posts

101 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Digga said:
TBH I don't quite follow why a gay couple would want a 'marraige' when they already (quite rightly) have the option of civil partnerships.
Same reason, presumably, why a black person would want to sit at the front of the bus when there are perfectly good seats at the back.

Breadvan72

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Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Still pretty Godwintastic, though.

Digga

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Wednesday 10th October 2012
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otolith said:
Digga said:
TBH I don't quite follow why a gay couple would want a 'marraige' when they already (quite rightly) have the option of civil partnerships.
Same reason, presumably, why a black person would want to sit at the front of the bus when there are perfectly good seats at the back.
But why in a church when religion is so openly homophobic? For the purpose of disambiguation I am not saying they shouldn't, more that I'm a little surprised many would wish to.

djstevec

2,710 posts

71 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Digga said:
otolith said:
Digga said:
TBH I don't quite follow why a gay couple would want a 'marraige' when they already (quite rightly) have the option of civil partnerships.
Same reason, presumably, why a black person would want to sit at the front of the bus when there are perfectly good seats at the back.
But why in a church when religion is so openly homophobic? For the purpose of disambiguation I am not saying they shouldn't, more that I'm a little surprised many would wish to.
The current proposal is for civil marriage of homosexuals only - Council buildings, registrar offices etc. nothing at all to do with the Church.