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Voight Kampff

4,109 posts

65 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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Also the Lebanese Hezbollah are alleged to have claimed responsibility for flying a drone (unarmed and supplied by Iran) over key strategic sites in Israel.

I suspect this is more than a remote control toy plane! This whole drone thing is a can of worms..............

Ozzie Osmond

19,160 posts

151 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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Voight Kampff said:
This whole drone thing is a can of worms..............
I agree. Given a drone is (a) not very big, (b) doesn't need a fancy launch site, and (c) can operate on a "launch and forget" basis it surely won't be very long before they are weapon of choice for terrorists. After all, why be a suicide bomber?

Voight Kampff

4,109 posts

65 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Voight Kampff said:
This whole drone thing is a can of worms..............
I agree. Given a drone is (a) not very big, (b) doesn't need a fancy launch site, and (c) can operate on a "launch and forget" basis it surely won't be very long before they are weapon of choice for terrorists. After all, why be a suicide bomber?
To some (Imran Khan) they already are the weapon of choice for terrorists. These things blur the line between legal warfare and terrorism. Can you imagine the prospect of drone swarm attacks? I remember something on telly years ago about programming robots to play football and robots to follow herd-like movements, such things applied to drones are the stuff of nightmares.

Muntu

6,863 posts

104 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
I agree. Given a drone is (a) not very big, (b) doesn't need a fancy launch site, and (c) can operate on a "launch and forget" basis it surely won't be very long before they are weapon of choice for terrorists. After all, why be a suicide bomber?
A drone isn't interested in getting 72 virgins.
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Sway

5,488 posts

99 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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Voight Kampff said:
To some (Imran Khan) they already are the weapon of choice for terrorists. These things blur the line between legal warfare and terrorism. Can you imagine the prospect of drone swarm attacks? I remember something on telly years ago about programming robots to play football and robots to follow herd-like movements, such things applied to drones are the stuff of nightmares.
Do some youtube searches, paired swarms of drones that could carry a kilo or more are readily available, easily used, and pretty cheap.

As a kid I used to read a comic that had a kid with his own remote controlled military, I used to pretend I was him, sending waves of tanks towards the playground fort.

Little did I know real life would make it possible in such a short time.

The technology behind them could very simply be used to take out somewhere like Camp Bastion, let alone within a populated city...

Edit - Imagine this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2la4pIyXOEQ&fea...

applied to these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPJMk2fgJU&fea...

Second one may be NSFW due to swearing (although in a borderline comedy accent, he's clearly watched Bad Boys 2!)

Edited by Sway on Friday 12th October 16:03


Edited by Sway on Friday 12th October 16:04

Ozzie Osmond

19,160 posts

151 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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Astacus

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139 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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Luftgekuhlt

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95 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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The name "General Jumbo" has sleazy undertones. Savile cannot have been far away.

cymtriks

4,284 posts

150 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
After all, why be a suicide bomber?
Because many of them are repaying a debt to their society, one which has got them or their families into disrepute.
Die for the cause and the family is allowed back into society.

Oh, and the West fears them and they know it.

jmorgan

24,554 posts

189 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Muntu said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
I agree. Given a drone is (a) not very big, (b) doesn't need a fancy launch site, and (c) can operate on a "launch and forget" basis it surely won't be very long before they are weapon of choice for terrorists. After all, why be a suicide bomber?
A drone isn't interested in getting 72 virgins.
Reminds me of Sputnik (not born at the time but the implications). We can put guided stuff in your air space.

V88Dicky

5,746 posts

88 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Voight Kampff said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
Voight Kampff said:
This whole drone thing is a can of worms..............
I agree. Given a drone is (a) not very big, (b) doesn't need a fancy launch site, and (c) can operate on a "launch and forget" basis it surely won't be very long before they are weapon of choice for terrorists. After all, why be a suicide bomber?
To some (Imran Khan) they already are the weapon of choice for terrorists. These things blur the line between legal warfare and terrorism. Can you imagine the prospect of drone swarm attacks? I remember something on telly years ago about programming robots to play football and robots to follow herd-like movements, such things applied to drones are the stuff of nightmares.
Nasty thought, having 'suicide' drones flying about.

Ever wondered what happened to all those Phallanx guns from the decommissioned Type 42 destroyers?

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...

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Sway

5,488 posts

99 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Very cool, but would they pick up and takeout small bird sized objects travelling 1m above the ground?

Oakey

19,352 posts

121 months

Saturday 13th October 2012
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Sway said:
As a kid I used to read a comic that had a kid with his own remote controlled military, I used to pretend I was him, sending waves of tanks towards the playground fort.
holy crap, what was that? I think you just triggered a memory, I can see it in my head but can't think what it was

ETA: Ah, cheers Ozzie

davepoth

25,734 posts

104 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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Sway said:
Very cool, but would they pick up and takeout small bird sized objects travelling 1m above the ground?
Yes. It can manage sea skimming missiles which travel at 600mph so a remote controlled plane travelling at 40mph won't be too hard.

Sway

5,488 posts

99 months

Sunday 14th October 2012
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davepoth said:
Sway said:
Very cool, but would they pick up and takeout small bird sized objects travelling 1m above the ground?
Yes. It can manage sea skimming missiles which travel at 600mph so a remote controlled plane travelling at 40mph won't be too hard.
That was kinda my point - if they are set up to register and target high speed objects, would they pick up on a slow moving drone (potentially moving only a few mph) floating that low (not sure how low sea skimmers are but they've got to be higher than swell crests)?

I'm assuming not, otherwise there would be a new Guinness record for World's most excessive scarecrow!

Clearly reprogramming would be possible, but by then significant damage could have been done.