R.I.P Amanda Todd

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Petrolhead95

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7,043 posts

154 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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rich1231 said:
Petrolhead95 said:
Where?! I'd happily slap him around.
Do you not think that makes you as bad as him?
No. He deserves it, she didn't.

AJS-

15,366 posts

236 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Marf said:
WEHGuy said:
I don't think that is a valid reason to curtail my freedom of speech.
It's already been curtailed. Crying crocodile tears about it now won't help, especially doing so in a thread like this where you'll just end up looking like a tosser.

Situations like this are precisely why the law exists in the form that it does. Arguing against that just seems churlish.
Except the first poster opened that line of debate with saying he was happy to lost "a bit of freedom of speech."

The fact that we don't have freedom of speech anyway is not an argument against it, nor a defence of further restrictions on it. Teenagers were bullied and committed suicide because of it many years before they had facebook accounts, and I think it is quite right to be highly dubious of new restrictions based on a highly emotive case. The cynical and disrespectful part is proposing more restrictions in such circumstances.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
The message is very simple people,

a) Don't behave like a tw@t, and

b) If you know someone who behaves like a tw@t, have the guts to stand up and tell them so.

It's the silence of people who should have spoken up which allows tw@ts to get away with it.
I'd say getting your tits out on the internet and having underage sex behaving like a tt, not that it deserves a death sentence, but you seriously have to look at this child's upbringing, don't you?

vescaegg

25,549 posts

167 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Art0ir said:
Link?
http://m.vice.com/en_uk/read/a-jailbait-loving-per...
Gotta love smart computer geeks sometimes.

He deserves everything he gets.


The non blurred out link to his details etc is readily available online. I changed my mind about posting it.




Edited by vescaegg on Tuesday 16th October 18:15

AJS-

15,366 posts

236 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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If it's true then yes, but I hope they're very sure of their ground before posting that. It makes tabloid naming and shaming seem pretty tame.

Silver

4,372 posts

226 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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WEHGuy said:
I'm sorry the young girl died but, I don't think that is a valid reason to curtail my freedom of speech. Just because some people can't raise their children properly, I don't think it is justifiable to punish everyone.
It's got precisely zero to do with freedom of speech. A two-year campaign of bullying online and in person, inciting others to harrass and intimidate that person is not freedom of speech, it's bullying.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

204 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Silver said:
WEHGuy said:
I'm sorry the young girl died but, I don't think that is a valid reason to curtail my freedom of speech. Just because some people can't raise their children properly, I don't think it is justifiable to punish everyone.
It's got precisely zero to do with freedom of speech. A two-year campaign of bullying online and in person, inciting others to harrass and intimidate that person is not freedom of speech, it's bullying.
It's not even bullying - In this case it's being stalked by a paedophile. Horrible story when you read the details behind it. The original guy who she flashed passed the image onto this Paedo who tried to blackmail her into doing an explicit webcam show, and then proceeded to stalk her and keep spreading the images to her friends. Every time she tried to get away, he followed.

This case has NOTHING to do with freedom of speech.

sd477667

223 posts

149 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Having seen the original flash pic it is hardly worth all this hassle, if she could not cope with the consequences of her slaginess then I'm sorry but that's her pigeon.

vescaegg

25,549 posts

167 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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sd477667 said:
Having seen the original flash pic it is hardly worth all this hassle, if she could not cope with the consequences of her slaginess then I'm sorry but that's her pigeon.
Astounding on so many levels. How naive were you as a 12 year old? Never made any stupid mistakes?

and you actually searched for a picture of a 12 year old topless?!

Silver

4,372 posts

226 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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mrmr96 said:
Silver said:
WEHGuy said:
I'm sorry the young girl died but, I don't think that is a valid reason to curtail my freedom of speech. Just because some people can't raise their children properly, I don't think it is justifiable to punish everyone.
It's got precisely zero to do with freedom of speech. A two-year campaign of bullying online and in person, inciting others to harrass and intimidate that person is not freedom of speech, it's bullying.
It's not even bullying - In this case it's being stalked by a paedophile. Horrible story when you read the details behind it. The original guy who she flashed passed the image onto this Paedo who tried to blackmail her into doing an explicit webcam show, and then proceeded to stalk her and keep spreading the images to her friends. Every time she tried to get away, he followed.

This case has NOTHING to do with freedom of speech.
It just surprises me sometimes what people's definition of freedom of speech can extend to include.

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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sd477667 said:
Having seen the original flash pic it is hardly worth all this hassle, if she could not cope with the consequences of her slaginess then I'm sorry but that's her pigeon.
Is it someone's bedtime?

rolleyes



Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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whoami said:
sd477667 said:
Having seen the original flash pic it is hardly worth all this hassle, if she could not cope with the consequences of her slaginess then I'm sorry but that's her pigeon.
Is it someone's bedtime?

rolleyes
Maybe he's the creepy stalker?! :O

Engineer1

10,486 posts

209 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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vescaegg said:
sd477667 said:
Having seen the original flash pic it is hardly worth all this hassle, if she could not cope with the consequences of her slaginess then I'm sorry but that's her pigeon.
Astounding on so many levels. How naive were you as a 12 year old? Never made any stupid mistakes?

and you actually searched for a picture of a 12 year old topless?!
Quoted for tttery and the fact that at 12 your life experience is much smaller and things are much bigger friends count more, your world is so much tinier and school is a huge part of it.

guards red

667 posts

200 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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sd477667 said:
Having seen the original flash pic it is hardly worth all this hassle, if she could not cope with the consequences of her slaginess then I'm sorry but that's her pigeon.
She was someone's child. Perhaps you ought to have a little respect.

Chim

7,259 posts

177 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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guards red said:
sd477667 said:
Having seen the original flash pic it is hardly worth all this hassle, if she could not cope with the consequences of her slaginess then I'm sorry but that's her pigeon.
She was someone's child. Perhaps you ought to have a little respect.
Don't feed the troll, it's his type that push these poor kids over the edge. Spineless little cowards that throw out insults from behind the safety of a keyboard. They do not have theI intelligence to understand the consequences of their actions, they are pond scum that deserve no attention.

Mods, probably best just to delete this little creeps account now before he spouts out any more drivel.

FrankTing

46 posts

139 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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To be fair all I did was google her name and google images gave me the tit pics. They're not showing up now thankfully.
Probably because it'd technically be child porn I guess.

tommy vercetti

11,489 posts

163 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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FrankTing said:
To be fair all I did was google her name and google images gave me the tit pics. They're not showing up now thankfully.
Probably because it'd technically be child porn I guess.
Why did she do it in the first place

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Young girls can be impressionable and vulnerable, and there are some sick fks online that will exploit it.

Chim

7,259 posts

177 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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If you you look into the pedo's details you will find out why. This is a 30 year old guy that grooms little girls online, they have a whole community out there. Follow the link to the guy and you will see it. They will use lots of sick tricks to snare and coax these little girls into doing what they want.

No doubt the police will be paying him and his sicko mates a visit fairly shortly, would imagine there is a prison cell currently being warmed up as we speak, hopefully next door to 6'4, 500lb lifer that's likes to be called Gloria.

FrankTing

46 posts

139 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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tommy vercetti said:
FrankTing said:
To be fair all I did was google her name and google images gave me the tit pics. They're not showing up now thankfully.
Probably because it'd technically be child porn I guess.
Why did she do it in the first place
Because she was 13 and almost everyone is an idiot at 13?

Edit:

Looks like the guy's either handed himself in or been arrested:



Looks like he works for facebook too. How embarrassing for them considering that seems to be the medium he used to torture her.

Edited by FrankTing on Tuesday 16th October 22:29