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MK Ultra said:
But haven't we actually got reactors on land here in G.B? It's not a case of electrons but more where does the electricity produced in the U.K go? Or do we not produce enough?
Frenchies currently pulling a big leccy cable through the channel tunnel's service tunnel apparently to help us out with our crap gridCaptain Ahab said:
MK Ultra said:
But haven't we actually got reactors on land here in G.B? It's not a case of electrons but more where does the electricity produced in the U.K go? Or do we not produce enough?
Frenchies currently pulling a big leccy cable through the channel tunnel's service tunnel apparently to help us out with our crap gridThe problems come when there is a massive demand for electricity in France and the UK, the will just cut the link,they did it to Italy one year when Europe was suffering a heat wave, if we have learned anything from history the French look after their own.
Captain Ahab said:
MK Ultra said:
But haven't we actually got reactors on land here in G.B? It's not a case of electrons but more where does the electricity produced in the U.K go? Or do we not produce enough?
Frenchies currently pulling a big leccy cable through the channel tunnel's service tunnel apparently to help us out with our crap gridhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/si...
In terms of Maintenance and Efficiency I guess they have done the maths.
As for the undersea route, ask all the nimbys who objected to the new lines of pylons to carry the massive increase in capacity Southwards [and reciprocally Northwards as well] as conditions dictate.
The bit that is overlooked is that the whole generation/distribution structure of the UK is archaic to say the least.
We have the wind turbines running at half throttle as the power cannot get to where it is required at the moment. Hence the scurry of line and pylon installation going on in Scotland.
It will be quite Ironic that those who decry renewables will soon benefit from remotely produced grid supplies....
As for the undersea route, ask all the nimbys who objected to the new lines of pylons to carry the massive increase in capacity Southwards [and reciprocally Northwards as well] as conditions dictate.
The bit that is overlooked is that the whole generation/distribution structure of the UK is archaic to say the least.
We have the wind turbines running at half throttle as the power cannot get to where it is required at the moment. Hence the scurry of line and pylon installation going on in Scotland.
It will be quite Ironic that those who decry renewables will soon benefit from remotely produced grid supplies....
Mojocvh said:
In terms of Maintenance and Efficiency I guess they have done the maths.
As for the undersea route, ask all the nimbys who objected to the new lines of pylons to carry the massive increase in capacity Southwards [and reciprocally Northwards as well] as conditions dictate.
The bit that is overlooked is that the whole generation/distribution structure of the UK is archaic to say the least.
We have the wind turbines running at half throttle as the power cannot get to where it is required at the moment. Hence the scurry of line and pylon installation going on in Scotland.
It will be quite Ironic that those who decry renewables will soon benefit from remotely produced grid supplies....
I don't see how we will benefit.As for the undersea route, ask all the nimbys who objected to the new lines of pylons to carry the massive increase in capacity Southwards [and reciprocally Northwards as well] as conditions dictate.
The bit that is overlooked is that the whole generation/distribution structure of the UK is archaic to say the least.
We have the wind turbines running at half throttle as the power cannot get to where it is required at the moment. Hence the scurry of line and pylon installation going on in Scotland.
It will be quite Ironic that those who decry renewables will soon benefit from remotely produced grid supplies....
The windmills will only produce when the wind blows. The rest of the time we will have to rely on more traditional generation. So we need to build new power stations. Unfortunately, nobody wants to build new stations because they will only be able to sell their cheap electricity when the wind isn't blowing.
Don
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Caulkhead said:
Lotusevoraboy said:
Is it me or were we not much better off when power companies were nationalised! Ideologically I get privatisation but for something as crucial as energy supplies it just does not work....we are being ripped off, we are at the mercy of International markets and suppliers and there is a stand off when it comes to the massive investment needed for new power stations between the companies and the government that may lead to black outs before the government inevitably buckle and step in....after all...why do private companies care if someone has no power..they have no duty or moral obligation to make sure everyone in the land has power.
You feel that way because you are missing a vital piece of information. When the torys privatised the utilities they retained things called 'Golden Shares' which effectively gave them some control over the privatised companies in terms of limiting the amount prices could rise by each year, the amount of profit re-invested and so on. This worked reasonably well until a certain recent government with a penchant for spending and a very unpopular leader decided to sell them off, primarily to the French to help fund the profligacy of his government and in the process swapped the UK consumers rights for a handful of beans. Hence the power companies love the UK market because they can do whatever they like, compared to say, France where the government won't let them. . . . . . .Edited by Lotusevoraboy on Friday 26th October 22:33
don4l said:
Mojocvh said:
In terms of Maintenance and Efficiency I guess they have done the maths.
As for the undersea route, ask all the nimbys who objected to the new lines of pylons to carry the massive increase in capacity Southwards [and reciprocally Northwards as well] as conditions dictate.
The bit that is overlooked is that the whole generation/distribution structure of the UK is archaic to say the least.
We have the wind turbines running at half throttle as the power cannot get to where it is required at the moment. Hence the scurry of line and pylon installation going on in Scotland.
It will be quite Ironic that those who decry renewables will soon benefit from remotely produced grid supplies....
I don't see how we will benefit.As for the undersea route, ask all the nimbys who objected to the new lines of pylons to carry the massive increase in capacity Southwards [and reciprocally Northwards as well] as conditions dictate.
The bit that is overlooked is that the whole generation/distribution structure of the UK is archaic to say the least.
We have the wind turbines running at half throttle as the power cannot get to where it is required at the moment. Hence the scurry of line and pylon installation going on in Scotland.
It will be quite Ironic that those who decry renewables will soon benefit from remotely produced grid supplies....
The windmills will only produce when the wind blows. The rest of the time we will have to rely on more traditional generation. So we need to build new power stations. Unfortunately, nobody wants to build new stations because they will only be able to sell their cheap electricity when the wind isn't blowing.
Don
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