How far will house prices fall [volume 4]

How far will house prices fall [volume 4]

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essayer

9,058 posts

194 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Deva Link said:
Ah, OK - you don't mean it sold for £390K, you mean it's sold and £390K was the asking price. Sorry!
Oops yes sorry could have been clearer on that.
But I suspect it would have been close for it to sell so fast !

Deva Link

26,934 posts

245 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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anonymous said:
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A bit dodgy if it was a probate sale. Although the house we were involved with was put on the market with only one valuation, and a (distant) relative instructed the EA without any reference to the executor (a solicitor). The solicitor wasn't very happy!

fido

16,796 posts

255 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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The jiffle king said:
Why 660? no idea, just crazy thinking, but we´ll see where this pans out to
Just out of interest has anything else sold for that much? Similar type of property of course ..

Deva Link

26,934 posts

245 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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That's all a bit clumsy, isn't it - why not just tell you it's sold?

We had people call us directly having got our contact details from neighbours and complain they'd offered more but the EA was refusing to pass on offers saying the house was sold. However in each case they weren't ready to proceed. It was bought cash by a local building family who snap up everything that's right for them.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

242 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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anonymous said:
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If you'd spoken with the family, and they confirmed the price, why did you not agree the sale and have them call the EA?

The jiffle king

6,910 posts

258 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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fido said:
Just out of interest has anything else sold for that much? Similar type of property of course ..
Not too much comparable, but price per sq ft they are asking for this which needs a lot of work is similar to done up properties

rufusgti

2,528 posts

192 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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anonymous said:
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What did it sell for?

pat_y

1,029 posts

201 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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House pricing around my local area is causing me a real headache at the moment, we sold our little 3 bed semi 2 months ago and are nearing completion but there is nothing to buy, there are 2 half decent houses in a 50K price range in a 1 mile radius and both of them have refused offers of around 96 - 97% of asking price. According to all the local EA's we have viewed with, buyers who actually have a good chance of proceeding are scarce, a lot of sales seem to be falling through with houses returning to market in less than a month from a deal being agreed.
Why are the houses i want to buy owned by retards......If i had a can of red bull i could throw it into orbit i'm so frustrated.

fido

16,796 posts

255 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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pat_y said:
Why are the houses i want to buy owned by retards......If i had a can of red bull i could throw it into orbit i'm so frustrated.
They don't need to sell and want more money or their house? Doesn't make them a retard - if anything they have managed to obtain a property that you want to purchase! wink

Deva Link

26,934 posts

245 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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pat_y said:
... a lot of sales seem to be falling through with houses returning to market in less than a month from a deal being agreed.
Any idea why they're falling through?

pat_y

1,029 posts

201 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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fido said:
pat_y said:
Why are the houses i want to buy owned by retards......If i had a can of red bull i could throw it into orbit i'm so frustrated.
They don't need to sell and want more money or their house? Doesn't make them a retard - if anything they have managed to obtain a property that you want to purchase! wink
Fair point, and it's just a giant game of housing 'chicken'. But what's the point of waiting for the asking price? why not just overprice by 10K and negotiate the drop, far easier and everyone understands what the sale price really needs to be. It's kind of like trying to sell a new car at full RRP with no extras, it's just not an expected or common practice which makes negotiation with your target audience difficult straight off the bat.
Yes they are still retards.

scenario8

6,558 posts

179 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Sorry to be found gulity of beating the same drum over and over again. Every property and very vendor are different, each vendor has their own circumstance and attitude. As a company we try very hard to market properties at realistic asking prices. Other agents take the view of either voluntarily or under presure from the vendor marketing at high prices expecting to be knocked down. Guess what? Those houses aren't attractive to the market and for various reasons don't generate sufficient interest to solicit "good offers" and often stick around smelling badly. Thus, we sell a lot of houses at near, bang on or above the advertised "price".

I have no problem whatsoever with a vendor declining an offer only four or five per cent below the headline price if a better offer is warranted. Even at the asking price if the conditions are there to support it.

I really don't know why I read so frequently on this thread and other similar threads that somehow all asking prices should be treated as if they were 110% or higher of any true value.

Incidentally on that point I was interested in the recent "how much did you pay for your house?" thread that seemed to indicate most people paid very close to the asking price. Obviously the odd goattee wearer knocked 'em 'til they bled, but most didn't.

scenario8

6,558 posts

179 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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anonymous said:
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As ever, I'm left wondering where all these "sold it to mate for a braan envelope o' cash" agenices are. I know I've never been involved in a dodgy deal and I don't remember knowing of one either. I'm sure they happen, though.

I'm doing this job wrong (as my boss keeps telling me).

fido

16,796 posts

255 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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scenario8 said:
I'm doing this job wrong (as my boss keeps telling me).
We know it happens and they don't advertise it when it happens. It might not be to a cousin or their mate, but heck you must be naive to think that agents always works for the seller. I think most of the time they do, but ultimately it's for their own commision. This is more an observation that a criticism. wink

Edited by fido on Thursday 8th November 17:28

Deva Link

26,934 posts

245 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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scenario8 said:
As ever, I'm left wondering where all these "sold it to mate for a braan envelope o' cash" agenices are. I know I've never been involved in a dodgy deal and I don't remember knowing of one either.
A few years ago: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/rogue-agent-caught-...

scenario8

6,558 posts

179 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Deva Link said:
scenario8 said:
As ever, I'm left wondering where all these "sold it to mate for a braan envelope o' cash" agenices are. I know I've never been involved in a dodgy deal and I don't remember knowing of one either.
A few years ago: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/rogue-agent-caught-...
Scenario8 said:
As ever, I'm left wondering where all these "sold it to mate for a braan envelope o' cash" agenices are. I know I've never been involved in a dodgy deal and I don't remember knowing of one either. I'm sure they happen, though.
To quote myself fully. I'm not naive to think these things don't go on. I was just trying to remind people that in the vast majority of transactions nothing particularly untoward happens. (General unprofessionalism from all parties - to include agents, buyers, sellers and solicitors - notwithstanding). As I said above I've never known of a deal like this myself. Tonker's example was from some years ago and that link was first printed in 2004.

Maybe if I were to supply my own manilla envelopes..?

pat_y

1,029 posts

201 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Deva Link said:
pat_y said:
... a lot of sales seem to be falling through with houses returning to market in less than a month from a deal being agreed.
Any idea why they're falling through?
couple of agents have said that some people still think it's 2005 with all the money in the world available, make offers on houses without consulting thier bank/building society and then recieve a nasty suprise when the mortgage is applied for.
Round here (New Forest area) we tend to have low population migration, people stay local so this builds housing sale chains in the local area, when a chain fails you tend to see more than 1 house return to the market at the same time. I guess this is partly why we seem to have such a high local return to market rate.

pat_y

1,029 posts

201 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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scenario8 said:
Sorry to be found gulity of beating the same drum over and over again. Every property and very vendor are different, each vendor has their own circumstance and attitude. As a company we try very hard to market properties at realistic asking prices. Other agents take the view of either voluntarily or under presure from the vendor marketing at high prices expecting to be knocked down. Guess what? Those houses aren't attractive to the market and for various reasons don't generate sufficient interest to solicit "good offers" and often stick around smelling badly. Thus, we sell a lot of houses at near, bang on or above the advertised "price".

I have no problem whatsoever with a vendor declining an offer only four or five per cent below the headline price if a better offer is warranted. Even at the asking price if the conditions are there to support it.

I really don't know why I read so frequently on this thread and other similar threads that somehow all asking prices should be treated as if they were 110% or higher of any true value.

Incidentally on that point I was interested in the recent "how much did you pay for your house?" thread that seemed to indicate most people paid very close to the asking price. Obviously the odd goattee wearer knocked 'em 'til they bled, but most didn't.
i must admit to being quite suprised you sell many at 'above advertised price'. It must be like running a Range Rover dealership in Cheshire around your office wink

While i understand your point about the balance between realistic asking prices and real selling prices, it just seems to be a national trait and and expected practice in my brief and limited experience that the asking price is rarely met. I suppose it's all about local market tolerance, some high demand areas it will happen.

scenario8

6,558 posts

179 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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pat_y said:
i must admit to being quite suprised you sell many at 'above advertised price'.
Guide Price, OIRO, OIEO, Price Range etc. Hence my use of ""price"".

martin84

5,366 posts

153 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Falling house prices are excellent news.
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