How far will house prices fall [volume 4]

How far will house prices fall [volume 4]

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turbobloke

103,963 posts

260 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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Another one...lock-up in Kensington where W8+420sqft=£650,000 asking.


turbobloke

103,963 posts

260 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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"A third of postcodes saw property prices fall in three months to November, and a quarter of the capital’s post codes areas are now experiencing falling prices — up from about 5 per cent in May, according to a study for the Financial Times by the data company Hometrack."

"The area with the strongest house price growth in the country is Milton Keynes, according to Hometrack. Aldershot, Stanwell — just south of Heathrow airport — and Roydon, near Harlow in Essex are also booming. But former boom towns like Aberdeen, Lakenheath near Cambridge, Redland in Bristol and Caversham in Reading have all been hit by a slowdown. In London, the worst-affected areas are Wandsworth, Lambeth, Southwark and Lewisham."

"The new figures come after forecasters said house price growth would slow next year as tighter mortgage rules and stagnant wages continue to bite in much of the country."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2883451/Ho...

Magog

2,652 posts

189 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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turbobloke said:
"A third of postcodes saw property prices fall in three months to November, and a quarter of the capital’s post codes areas are now experiencing falling prices — up from about 5 per cent in May, according to a study for the Financial Times by the data company Hometrack."

"The area with the strongest house price growth in the country is Milton Keynes, according to Hometrack. Aldershot, Stanwell — just south of Heathrow airport — and Roydon, near Harlow in Essex are also booming. But former boom towns like Aberdeen, Lakenheath near Cambridge, Redland in Bristol and Caversham in Reading have all been hit by a slowdown. In London, the worst-affected areas are Wandsworth, Lambeth, Southwark and Lewisham."

"The new figures come after forecasters said house price growth would slow next year as tighter mortgage rules and stagnant wages continue to bite in much of the country."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2883451/Ho...
Lakenheath! The only things that will ever boom in Lakenheath are the F15s and if things go really bad, Putin's artificial sun. The only reason prices will have risen massively there is because they were so depressed in the first place.

jonah35

3,940 posts

157 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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turbobloke said:
"A third of postcodes saw property prices fall in three months to November, and a quarter of the capital’s post codes areas are now experiencing falling prices — up from about 5 per cent in May, according to a study for the Financial Times by the data company Hometrack."

"The area with the strongest house price growth in the country is Milton Keynes, according to Hometrack. Aldershot, Stanwell — just south of Heathrow airport — and Roydon, near Harlow in Essex are also booming. But former boom towns like Aberdeen, Lakenheath near Cambridge, Redland in Bristol and Caversham in Reading have all been hit by a slowdown. In London, the worst-affected areas are Wandsworth, Lambeth, Southwark and Lewisham."

"The new figures come after forecasters said house price growth would slow next year as tighter mortgage rules and stagnant wages continue to bite in much of the country."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2883451/Ho...
So two thirds of postcodes saw prices rise? And three quarters of the capitals post code areas rose? Plus you get rent too?

I'm in!

turbobloke

103,963 posts

260 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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jonah35 said:
turbobloke said:
"A third of postcodes saw property prices fall in three months to November, and a quarter of the capital’s post codes areas are now experiencing falling prices — up from about 5 per cent in May, according to a study for the Financial Times by the data company Hometrack."

"The area with the strongest house price growth in the country is Milton Keynes, according to Hometrack. Aldershot, Stanwell — just south of Heathrow airport — and Roydon, near Harlow in Essex are also booming. But former boom towns like Aberdeen, Lakenheath near Cambridge, Redland in Bristol and Caversham in Reading have all been hit by a slowdown. In London, the worst-affected areas are Wandsworth, Lambeth, Southwark and Lewisham."

"The new figures come after forecasters said house price growth would slow next year as tighter mortgage rules and stagnant wages continue to bite in much of the country."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2883451/Ho...
So two thirds of postcodes saw prices rise? And three quarters of the capitals post code areas rose? Plus you get rent too?

I'm in!
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turbobloke

103,963 posts

260 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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The Daily Mail has been playing snakes and ladders this Christmas using Halifax data.





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2888340/Be...

jonah35

3,940 posts

157 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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Poor areas falling and london rising?

turbobloke

103,963 posts

260 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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jonah35 said:
Poor areas falling and london rising?
House price variation Dog Bites Man sonar

Mr Whippy

29,042 posts

241 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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gibbon said:
Mr Whippy said:
They did want to crash, but low interest rates allowed high prices to be maintained by protecting bad debtors, and also allowed higher borrowing to sustain house purchases because interest payments were lower.

For anyone who hasn't worked away at their credit in the meantime, or just borrowed more because they could, just leaves us back where we were in 2007... with the market bubbly and wanting to correct.


The question is, how much will government want to protect people *this* time. Maybe this time there is no more protecting because there is no where to go now.


Interesting times whatever happens!
Why do people constantly talk about the base rate as if its sole purpose is for the control of property prices.

The financial crash was not due to house prices wobbling, the wobble in prices was due to the crash. Low interest rates arnt to stimulate house price growth, its to stimulate the economy. The base rate is meant to be a tool to control inflation and growth in the economy.

Causes and effects are so often confused with this stuff, house prices are not the primary economic concern of the government however they seem to be the primary concern of the uk home owning public.
I never suggested otherwise. Simply that the low interest rates have allowed the bubble that built up very rapidly in the 2000 > 2005 period to remain mostly inflated.

Dave

Magog

2,652 posts

189 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Looks like they are going to rise 4% this year then;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30422517

Election etc depending...

okgo

38,053 posts

198 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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be interested to see a chart like that one for London perdictions, i.e. what they said, and what happened...I see London was 17% year on year as a whole, yet my borough was nearly 24% according to another course...

z4RRSchris99

11,286 posts

179 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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okgo said:
be interested to see a chart like that one for London perdictions, i.e. what they said, and what happened...I see London was 17% year on year as a whole, yet my borough was nearly 24% according to another course...
most of the agents do them in their research documents.

They love to hawk out the "year on year" changes, but thats not the real story, as in realist we had a big rise first 7 months of last year, then fk all since then.

The market in london is flat

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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I'm intrigued by the numbers posted up by the Mail newspaper regarding the 'fall' in house prices. When is a 'correction' called a fall? Fall from what, an over inflated number perhaps. Why did the house prices rise before the correction. Why can't these headline stories show a longer term period when writing up stories such as this.

okgo

38,053 posts

198 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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crankedup said:
I'm intrigued by the numbers posted up by the Mail newspaper regarding the 'fall' in house prices. When is a 'correction' called a fall? Fall from what, an over inflated number perhaps. Why did the house prices rise before the correction. Why can't these headline stories show a longer term period when writing up stories such as this.
that doesn't sell papers

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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"Fall" is fact. "Correction" is opinion. e.g. "they were an over-inflated bubble, now corrected downwards to the right level" vs. "prices fell 0.2% y/y in London in November"...

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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walm said:
"Fall" is fact. "Correction" is opinion. e.g. "they were an over-inflated bubble, now corrected downwards to the right level" vs. "prices fell 0.2% y/y in London in November"...
Cheers, I have often wondered and now I know. thumbup

Mr Whippy

29,042 posts

241 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Houses always go up in value, until they crash.

fido

16,798 posts

255 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Right time to buy is after a crash. But it may not be the best time.

vescaegg

25,549 posts

167 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/until-...

Calls for rent control now. Won't ever happen.

Don't think people will understand that if rents fall, demand will increase and a lot of people just won't be able to get anything anywhere as a result. It will all just become a lottery.

z4RRSchris99

11,286 posts

179 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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rents cant rise without wages rising,
house prioces should be reflective of both wages and rental yeilds.

something has to give:

wages increase, or prices fall.


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