Do humans contribute to climate change substantially?
Poll: Do humans contribute to climate change substantially?
Total Members Polled: 599
Discussion
Globs said:
You are as blind as KP, who attacked out of hand a graph because he didn't realise it was from the Sacred Source - the IPCC itself. You both follow your dogma to the exclusion of physics, data and reason - the only mystery from us rational people is 'Why'? Are you really so desperate for your warming to be true, and the 26,000 fuel poverty deaths ths winter in England and Wales weren't on your watch?
That's the real elephant in the room for me too, it's embarrassingly obvious that MMGW is a busted flush, yet they persist in denying the facts. WeirdGlobs said:
You are as blind as KP, who attacked out of hand a graph because he didn't realise it was from the Sacred Source - the IPCC itself.
lol, your self-belief never ceases to amaze Globs. I recognised what the Ira Gickstein graph was based on straight away actually - it's the third article on WUWT about that graph in a few days and ALL my criticism was focussed on the annotations added by Glickstein. Apache said:
Globs said:
You are as blind as KP, who attacked out of hand a graph because he didn't realise it was from the Sacred Source - the IPCC itself. You both follow your dogma to the exclusion of physics, data and reason - the only mystery from us rational people is 'Why'? Are you really so desperate for your warming to be true, and the 26,000 fuel poverty deaths ths winter in England and Wales weren't on your watch?
That's the real elephant in the room for me too, it's embarrassingly obvious that MMGW is a busted flush, yet they persist in denying the facts. Weird
t or deluded mental cases,I hope they regret the damage they are doing and have done both to the chance to solve real envronmental problems and the wellbeing / living standards of milions of people...powerstroke said:
I hope they regret the damage they are doing and have done both to the chance to solve real envronmental problems and the wellbeing / living standards of milions of people...
I hope they have all their assets confiscated as proceeds of crime and spend the rest of their natural lives in jail for the thousands of deaths they are responsible for.Jasandjules said:
powerstroke said:
I hope they regret the damage they are doing and have done both to the chance to solve real envronmental problems and the wellbeing / living standards of milions of people...
I hope they have all their assets confiscated as proceeds of crime and spend the rest of their natural lives in jail for the thousands of deaths they are responsible for.Remember to check on any elderly people in your street this winter, each life we can save from the warmist agenda counts.
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/health-wellbeing/keeping-y...
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/health-wellbeing/keeping-y...
Globs said:
Remember to check on any elderly people in your street this winter, each life we can save from the warmist agenda counts.
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/health-wellbeing/keeping-y...
I have said before that this scam already affects us. My parents were genuinely scared to put their central heating on, their house was freezing, so last winter, we agreed to pay their winter fuel bill as long as they use their heating!http://www.ageuk.org.uk/health-wellbeing/keeping-y...
I would imagine there are thousands already doing this, but I am sure many can’t afford to, and can barely pay their own fuel bills. I have moved from an inert observer of this religion to hating it with all my being.
I have also said that I really wish those who spout their poison on here were forcibly removed from their comfortable warm homes, stripped of their income and put in a cold dank home on a pensioners income for at least the whole of winter – and see how they chose between eating or freezing. It is always the well-off who promote this s
t- they need to see what they are doing from the other side of the fence. I hate them, they may even be the death of me!
Bedazzled almost certainly believes that the current floods are being caused by MMGW, just as he/she would believe that if we were now experiencing drought/snow drifts/storms/unusual prolonged warmth/unusual prolonged cold/ [insert any prolonged weather type here], that too would be the manifestation of MMGW.
Some gullible personalty types will remember seeing floods on the 'act on CO2' advertising campaign fairy tale, and that's good enough for them.
Some realists will undertstand that the current prolonged rainfall and flooding in this country has happened thousands of times before and will happen thousands of times again, regardless of whether man is burning fossil fuels or living in caves.
Some gullible personalty types will remember seeing floods on the 'act on CO2' advertising campaign fairy tale, and that's good enough for them.
Some realists will undertstand that the current prolonged rainfall and flooding in this country has happened thousands of times before and will happen thousands of times again, regardless of whether man is burning fossil fuels or living in caves.
deeps said:
Bedazzled almost certainly believes that the current floods are being caused by MMGW, just as he/she would believe that if we were now experiencing drought/snow drifts/storms/unusual prolonged warmth/unusual prolonged cold/ [insert any prolonged weather type here], that too would be the manifestation of MMGW.
Some gullible personalty types will remember seeing floods on the 'act on CO2' advertising campaign fairy tale, and that's good enough for them.
Some realists will undertstand that the current prolonged rainfall and flooding in this country has happened thousands of times before and will happen thousands of times again, regardless of whether man is burning fossil fuels or living in caves.
How things change and they forget things that were predicted in the past ,the predictions and the association's they make are as changeable as the weather. Some gullible personalty types will remember seeing floods on the 'act on CO2' advertising campaign fairy tale, and that's good enough for them.
Some realists will undertstand that the current prolonged rainfall and flooding in this country has happened thousands of times before and will happen thousands of times again, regardless of whether man is burning fossil fuels or living in caves.
Droughts in the UK anyone.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4091068.stm
PRTVR said:
deeps said:
Bedazzled almost certainly believes that the current floods are being caused by MMGW, just as he/she would believe that if we were now experiencing drought/snow drifts/storms/unusual prolonged warmth/unusual prolonged cold/ [insert any prolonged weather type here], that too would be the manifestation of MMGW.
Some gullible personalty types will remember seeing floods on the 'act on CO2' advertising campaign fairy tale, and that's good enough for them.
Some realists will undertstand that the current prolonged rainfall and flooding in this country has happened thousands of times before and will happen thousands of times again, regardless of whether man is burning fossil fuels or living in caves.
How things change and they forget things that were predicted in the past ,the predictions and the association's they make are as changeable as the weather. Some gullible personalty types will remember seeing floods on the 'act on CO2' advertising campaign fairy tale, and that's good enough for them.
Some realists will undertstand that the current prolonged rainfall and flooding in this country has happened thousands of times before and will happen thousands of times again, regardless of whether man is burning fossil fuels or living in caves.
Droughts in the UK anyone.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4091068.stm
Probably missed it, there are so many.
Did somebody mention flooding? In the no doubt futile hope of avoiding another attrition loop...
Did somebody mention flooding? In the no doubt futile hope of avoiding another attrition loop...
On one of the n times flooding has been raised by believers as due to mankind not living in caves probably originating in 2007 but repeated since then I said:
Recent flooding in July 2007 was due to unseasonal weather systems including some slow moving depressions with widely spaced isobars,tracking over the UK due to a chaotic shift in the jet sream, meaning that the rainfall stayed put over a few unlucky areas for longer than normal, with low windspeeds unable to move the downpours on. This resulted in initial flash floods, and then rivers bursting their banks with run-off. It had nothing whatsoever to do with non-existent man made global warming. It wasn’t even an unprecedented amount of rainfall, though the supine credulous media use the word ‘unprecedented’ regularly and wrongly.
We hadn’t seen anything like it for 60 years, while for those with an eye for history, there was also something similar back in the late eighteenth century – prior to industrialisation and the arrival of mechanised transport. More recently, but still too long ago for the global warmers to claim any meaningful link, in 1927 the Raynes Park and West Barnes Residents' Association was formed largely to deal with the local flooding problem. Mr. T. Coleman, writing in “The News” of 31st January 1969 said: "on and off during the years, the road (Bushey Road) has been awash during heavy rain but not until August (1968) did it assume disastrous proportions". In Linton in June 1968, 3 inches of rain fell in 24 hours. 1958 in Haverhill is the year a lot of people remember as the year of the flood. After a storm in June of that year most of the High Street and Queen Street area of the town was flooded.
These localised downpours were devastating, but they too have been exceeded many times. On the 29th of May 1912 nearly five inches of rain fell in three hours near the town of Louth in Lincolnshire. The flood-water practically razed the town and killed 22 people. Even more spectacular was the deluge that occurred three months later in Norfolk when Brundall, near Norwich, experienced more than eight inches of rain on one highly memorable August day. Much of Norfolk was still under water six months later. And on August 15 that year, a depression moving up the Bristol Channel deposited nine inches of rain over Exmoor, spawning the lethal flood that nearly washed away the village of Lynmouth - more than 30 people were killed. The record for rainfall in one 24-hour period occurred on July 18, 1955, when nearly twelve inches of rain fell on parts of Dorset.
Looking a lot further back in the history of flooding episodes, Macklin et al 2005 identified sixteen episodes of extreme flooding occurrence, 12 of which (at ca. 11160, 5730, 4840, 4520, 3540, 2730, 2550, 2280, 1950, 1290, 660 and 570 years before 2005) were recorded in most regions, whereas four phases (at ca. 6820, 5540, 1650 and 860 years before 2005) affected some parts of Great Britain more than others.
What's new? Only a new religion.We hadn’t seen anything like it for 60 years, while for those with an eye for history, there was also something similar back in the late eighteenth century – prior to industrialisation and the arrival of mechanised transport. More recently, but still too long ago for the global warmers to claim any meaningful link, in 1927 the Raynes Park and West Barnes Residents' Association was formed largely to deal with the local flooding problem. Mr. T. Coleman, writing in “The News” of 31st January 1969 said: "on and off during the years, the road (Bushey Road) has been awash during heavy rain but not until August (1968) did it assume disastrous proportions". In Linton in June 1968, 3 inches of rain fell in 24 hours. 1958 in Haverhill is the year a lot of people remember as the year of the flood. After a storm in June of that year most of the High Street and Queen Street area of the town was flooded.
These localised downpours were devastating, but they too have been exceeded many times. On the 29th of May 1912 nearly five inches of rain fell in three hours near the town of Louth in Lincolnshire. The flood-water practically razed the town and killed 22 people. Even more spectacular was the deluge that occurred three months later in Norfolk when Brundall, near Norwich, experienced more than eight inches of rain on one highly memorable August day. Much of Norfolk was still under water six months later. And on August 15 that year, a depression moving up the Bristol Channel deposited nine inches of rain over Exmoor, spawning the lethal flood that nearly washed away the village of Lynmouth - more than 30 people were killed. The record for rainfall in one 24-hour period occurred on July 18, 1955, when nearly twelve inches of rain fell on parts of Dorset.
Looking a lot further back in the history of flooding episodes, Macklin et al 2005 identified sixteen episodes of extreme flooding occurrence, 12 of which (at ca. 11160, 5730, 4840, 4520, 3540, 2730, 2550, 2280, 1950, 1290, 660 and 570 years before 2005) were recorded in most regions, whereas four phases (at ca. 6820, 5540, 1650 and 860 years before 2005) affected some parts of Great Britain more than others.
Jesush H!!! And we were thinking the BBC was bad for a one sided view!!! Just watched a SKY news documentry on the american storm and the last 10 minuits was just a full on we are going to die sea level rise Co2 ice meltting more storms caused by climate change we must cut Co2 Etc all without any ballance whatsoever from there "experts" 
XCP said:
I am interested in this talk of fuel bills. ( mine are enormous). How much of my gas or electric bill is due to MMGW policy?
Can we say if it wasn't for Gore et al, I would be x pounds a month better off?
Yep. I think it's quite telling that the ones who chose/pretend to believe in this crap are either quite well off, so fuel bills will never be a problem for them, and/or the cretins who post on here, like Gore's apostle’s, spreading the word because their livelihood depends on it, so they spread the word on their nice shiny iPads or Apple laptops, telling us that 'we' must sacrifice more of our hard earned to keep them living in comfort.Can we say if it wasn't for Gore et al, I would be x pounds a month better off?
The more they post, the more I am convinced it is a money making scam.
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