another abuse gang

[don4l]

FiF said:

Something that I raised on the UKIP thread, but of all the various revelations what is the Gtr London, or London Borough / Metropolitan Police situation here? I've not seen or read any comment on this, but could have missed it.

I was talking to a retired teacher at the weekend. She used to work in Haringey and she is not at all surprised by the Rotheram scandal. She says that the same thing was happening in Haringey, but nobody could speak about it.

[Mermaid]

FiF said:

Something that I raised on the UKIP thread, but of all the various revelations what is the Gtr London, or London Borough / Metropolitan Police situation here? I've not seen or read any comment on this, but could have missed it. Or other cities?

Obviously Bradford and Rochdale have been mentioned But if it's happening in a rural-ish place like Skipton, then what about Glasgow, Birmingham, Kirklees, Leeds and so on?

Britainstan, whilst we are united.

No doubt there are many there locations affected. Luton? Amersham?

[FiF]

don4l said:

FiF said:

Something that I raised on the UKIP thread, but of all the various revelations what is the Gtr London, or London Borough / Metropolitan Police situation here? I've not seen or read any comment on this, but could have missed it.

I was talking to a retired teacher at the weekend. She used to work in Haringey and she is not at all surprised by the Rotheram scandal. She says that the same thing was happening in Haringey, but nobody could speak about it.

So considering that London has the largest Pakistani population, 224,000 ish, and note before we get Magnum et al coming back and saying but but but (if he dare) yes it's not JUST that sector, but let's go with it for a moment, Skipton has 500 or so, and Rotherham has 17,000 (ish) has the nation been studiously avoiding looking at a very big iceberg the tip of which has just emerged in South Yorkshire?

[Mr_B]

Coincidentally on TV tonight, Pakistan's own problem at home.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/Pakistans-hidde...

[rover 623gsi]

perhaps - this particular group of men carried out their outrageous actions, not because of their culture/ethnicity but because they realised that they could ‘get away with it’ because of their culture/ethnicity.

If you see what I mean.

[Countdown]

FiF said:

So considering that London has the largest Pakistani population, 224,000 ish, and note before we get Magnum et al coming back and saying but but but (if he dare) yes it's not JUST that sector, but let's go with it for a moment, Skipton has 500 or so, and Rotherham has 17,000 (ish) has the nation been studiously avoiding looking at a very big iceberg the tip of which has just emerged in South Yorkshire?

Would it be futile to hope that other Social Services Depts are looking back at their records/caseloads etc. to see if there have been similar allegations?

[Digga]

rover 623gsi said:

perhaps - this particular group of men carried out their outrageous actions, not because of their culture/ethnicity but because they realised that they could ‘get away with it’ because of their culture/ethnicity.

If you see what I mean.

I'm not so sure. I think there is a lot more to it than we're already getting.

I was talking with a friend at the weekend about these cases. She was telling me about here nephew who'd happened to mention to her that he didn't like the Pakistani lads on his cricket team. She was a bit perturbed - he wasn't ordinarily racist and she was wondering what the issue was so she asked him to explain. He said, quite simply, "They just don't talk to anyone. If you try to talk to them, they usually just ignore you and they only really talk among themselves."

[samuelellis]

FiF said:

Something that I raised on the UKIP thread, but of all the various revelations what is the Gtr London, or London Borough / Metropolitan Police situation here? I've not seen or read any comment on this, but could have missed it. Or other cities?

Obviously Bradford and Rochdale have been mentioned But if it's happening in a rural-ish place like Skipton, then what about Glasgow, Birmingham, Kirklees, Leeds and so on?

Edited by FiF on Monday 1st September 11:37

It is and has happened in kirklees, someone on the street next to me has been jailed for being part of a abuse gang

[don4l]

FiF said:

don4l said:

FiF said:

Something that I raised on the UKIP thread, but of all the various revelations what is the Gtr London, or London Borough / Metropolitan Police situation here? I've not seen or read any comment on this, but could have missed it.

I was talking to a retired teacher at the weekend. She used to work in Haringey and she is not at all surprised by the Rotheram scandal. She says that the same thing was happening in Haringey, but nobody could speak about it.

So considering that London has the largest Pakistani population, 224,000 ish, and note before we get Magnum et al coming back and saying but but but (if he dare) yes it's not JUST that sector, but let's go with it for a moment, Skipton has 500 or so, and Rotherham has 17,000 (ish) has the nation been studiously avoiding looking at a very big iceberg the tip of which has just emerged in South Yorkshire?

It is beginning to look that way.

She said that it was completely visible. Sometimes men would come into the classroom and remove a girl. The teachers knew some of the men and which girls they were looking for. Sometimes they would see a man approaching and they would hide the girl in a cupboard, and claim that she hadn't come to school that day. The teachers were not allowed to call the police.

She told me that social services were worse than useless. Everything was governed by political correctness. The teachers were utterly demoralised by their inability to do anything.

[johnS2000]

I have been following this thread for some time and ,although I could see that this was going to end up far more widespread than just Rotherham I have to admit to being thoroughly disgusted and demoralised by recent revelations from the last few posters .

How can we,as a supposedly civilised nation ,be so stupid as to allow this sort of thing,on this scale,to be perpetrated by a relatively few Immigrants/offspring of immigrants .

How did they get so much influence over our own governing bodies/law enforcers/educators.

[Digga]

johnS2000 said:

How did they get so much influence over our own governing bodies/law enforcers/educators.

when you consider what a small minority of the overall population they are, it is frightening and barely credible. Clearly, there are areas where they are representative of a larger proportion of the population, which is where most of the abuses seem to centre, but even so, one would have hoped standard of child care, education and law would have been upheld.

What is now being revealed to us is truly salutory.

[andymc]

Digga said:

johnS2000 said:

How did they get so much influence over our own governing bodies/law enforcers/educators.

when you consider what a small minority of the overall population they are, it is frightening and barely credible. Clearly, there are areas where they are representative of a larger proportion of the population, which is where most of the abuses seem to centre, but even so, one would have hoped standard of child care, education and law would have been upheld.

What is now being revealed to us is truly salutory.

In yesterday's papers it seems the UK is not alone, lots of areas of Europe that have a high immigrant population are seeing this come to light, the Benelux countries etc

[Mermaid]

Digga said:

hen you consider what a small minority of the overall population they are, it is frightening and barely credible. Clearly, there are areas where they are representative of a larger proportion of the population, which is where most of the abuses seem to centre, but even so, one would have hoped standard of child care, education and law would have been upheld.

What is now being revealed to us is truly salutory.

Also noteworthy is that so far other minority groups have not got caught up in blatant abuse. Different mind set, as some of the earlier posts/links suggest.

[Digga]

What has happened here is that a subset of the population, some indigenous with links to the third world and some newly arrived from there have, in a fairly short space of time succeeded in subverting our laws and establishments to effectively create enclaves of the third world within our country. It is a shocking disgrace and a wake up call to us all.

There is a broader problem with immigration of the very poorest people from the least developed nations that is no being addressed - we should see this problem now and should also look out for other problems before it is too late.

[2013BRM]

johnS2000 said:

I have been following this thread for some time and ,although I could see that this was going to end up far more widespread than just Rotherham I have to admit to being thoroughly disgusted and demoralised by recent revelations from the last few posters .

How can we,as a supposedly civilised nation ,be so stupid as to allow this sort of thing,on this scale,to be perpetrated by a relatively few Immigrants/offspring of immigrants .

How did they get so much influence over our own governing bodies/law enforcers/educators.

I'm afraid it is our 'civility' that has allowed this to happen

[Mermaid]

Digga said:

What has happened here is that a subset of the population, some indigenous with links to the third world and some newly arrived from there have, in a fairly short space of time succeeded in subverting our laws and establishments to effectively create enclaves of the third world within our country. It is a shocking disgrace and a wake up call to us all.

There is a broader problem with immigration of the very poorest people from the least developed nations that is no being addressed - we should see this problem now and should also look out for other problems before it is too late.

Today it is Pakistani Muslims, and really too many here already and high birth rates so little can be done at this stage. Tomorrow, it could be turn out to be Romanians/Bulgarians (also from poor parts of the world) or the economic migrants/asylum seekers of some African nation. Ghettos too late to break up?

What really needs to change is the elimination of PC - leave your tribal "foreign" idealogy behind in your home country and just bring the interesting food. And learn/respect the language/ways/culture of your host nation. Tolerance has been severely abused.


Points system immigration?

[johnS2000]

There are some very clever and well educated people on here and in well respected positions of varying degree's of authority and there is no point of any of the resident comedians coming back with any derogatory comments to the contrary.

I want to know ,as a poor retired peasant ,native to this green and ,not so pleasant land, just recently ,

How ,in fact ,to return my country to the previous status of green and pleasant land by getting rid of this plague of low life scum.

[Pesty]

FiF said:

Something that I raised on the UKIP thread, but of all the various revelations what is the Gtr London, or London Borough / Metropolitan Police situation here? I've not seen or read any comment on this, but could have missed it. Or other cities?

Obviously Bradford and Rochdale have been mentioned But if it's happening in a rural-ish place like Skipton, then what about Glasgow, Birmingham, Kirklees, Leeds and so on?





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Dr bernados released a press statement years ago that this was happening in EVERY town and city in the country ran through taxi ranks and fast food places.

"Every"

[freakybacon]

Erm...Bradford you say..

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/1144342...

Edited by freakybacon on Monday 1st September 15:53

[Digga]

Pesty said:

Dr bernados released a press statement years ago that this was happening in EVERY town and city in the country ran through taxi ranks and fast food places.

"Every"

Depressingly, I cannot find any logic to dispute that with. In my mind, the likelihood is that whilst the biggest cases have now been uncovered, there have been countless others in operation.

I have a friend in the police who has indicated this is not restricted to Pakistani Muslims btw.