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Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Smiler. said:
I have a question for the politician that made this possible:

When did I ever get asked if it was OK to import a moronic, third world culture like this & have it establish itself down my street?
The party that freezes immigration (say for 5 years) will get the votes. And even after that a points system an an acceptable level of written/spoken English.

HonestIago

1,719 posts

186 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Smiler. said:
Having listened to File on 4, the picture painted results in some rather serious questions for the UK Pakistani "community".

Possibly not everywhere in the UK, but seemingly anywhere where the "community" is of significant size.

For the branded racist xenophobe (like this poster), it's unsurprising given previous questions over the sea-change in local demographics resulting from mass localised immigration of an unintegrated populace.


Of course, this programme could just be a hatchet job.

But repeated use of "disrespect", "shame", "community", "tight-knit" & the accounts of responses from local mosques is outright damming.


It paints a picture of a widespread culture that so broken, so corrupt, so evil, where the vilest abuse of children is actioned by those at every level within this "community".

It deserves to be outed & banished from this planet for ever, but is would seem that those in the upper echelons want to keep the status quo.

You almost could not make this up.


I have a question for the politician that made this possible:

When did I ever get asked if it was OK to import a moronic, third world culture like this & have it establish itself down my street?
Superb post.

The problem IS with the Pakistani Community and it IS with Muslims. Raping children is part of this medieval "culture" from which we have benefited from much "enrichment" since 1997. The Labour party are especially complicit in events of the last few decades, preferring to hush these crimes up than address them.

ANY white person voting Labour is voting to have their own daughters raped. No one will be able to argue against this view once the true scale of these atrocities (in almost exclusively Labour controlled councils) becomes known.


Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Digga said:
Smiler. said:
I have a question for the politician that made this possible:

When did I ever get asked if it was OK to import a moronic, third world culture like this & have it establish itself down my street?
I am very much pro-immigration, all for enabling refugees to flee desperate, dangerous situations, and I am very much of the belief that, ultimately, there is a lot of good in humanity. However, I cannot possibly understand how bringing enough third world people into any area will not result in it becoming, to a greater or lesser degree, third world itself, especially if you're not even bothering to screen for criminals.

How did we ever expect immigrants to integrate and assimilate our culture, laws and ways of living? 'We' - our government - had a duty not only to its own people, but also the immigrants it allowed here, to ensure the very things that make the UK so attractive - justice, education, welfare services, quality of life - were preserved and that these immigrants had the best chance of successful, productive lives.
Exactly. And that aspect is that same for all peoples from overseas.

Female genital mutilation, slavery, witchcraft, forced marriage, honour killings & other less serious but equally erosive practices.


The left have constantly directed us to accept all of this baggage as "rich cultural diversity" & any time one questioned any aspect of it - "you're a racist".

Well bravo! You have condemned countless innocents to a life of misery & ensured its increasing & relentless march. Bravo!

smegmore

3,091 posts

176 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Smiler. said:
I have a question for the politician that made this possible:

When did I ever get asked if it was OK to import a moronic, third world culture like this & have it establish itself down my street?
This question ought to be directed at one Anthony Lynton Blair who, together with his cohorts, was instrumental in the open door immigration policy which has resulted in the situation in which the UK now finds itself.

More cultural enrichers are queueing to escape from Calais and other such dangerous locations to settle in the safe haven of the UK.

HonestIago

1,719 posts

186 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Good article (and even better comments) on Breitbart London:

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/...

smegmore

3,091 posts

176 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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HonestIago said:
Good article (and even better comments) on Breitbart London:

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/...
Good article, says it like it is without any of the usual flannel.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Mermaid said:
And even after that a points system an an acceptable level of written/spoken English.
The language thing is kind of already in place, I have an American colleague and friend who has been here for 10 years and is just applying for her naturalisation/passport this month. She has had to take an exam, I can't remember what she called it, but it involves proving your language skills and (basic) knowledge about the country.

Digga

40,296 posts

283 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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OpulentBob said:
(basic) knowledge about the country.
What, like naming all the fifteen different types of rain? hehe



mini1380cc

2,944 posts

171 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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OpulentBob said:
The language thing is kind of already in place, I have an American colleague and friend who has been here for 10 years and is just applying for her naturalisation/passport this month. She has had to take an exam, I can't remember what she called it, but it involves proving your language skills and (basic) knowledge about the country.
There was a Panorama or Dispatches ( cant remember which) that shown these exams were embarrassingly easy to subvert. Either the examiner (private contractor) was paid to make sure they passed by actually reading out the answers or someone was paid to sit in for the person taking the test. The person that was supposed to be tested would sit outside waiting for their pass paper. Then they would go on their merry way without knowing a single English word or anything to do with the country.

jogon

2,971 posts

158 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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mini1380cc said:
OpulentBob said:
The language thing is kind of already in place, I have an American colleague and friend who has been here for 10 years and is just applying for her naturalisation/passport this month. She has had to take an exam, I can't remember what she called it, but it involves proving your language skills and (basic) knowledge about the country.
There was a Panorama or Dispatches ( cant remember which) that shown these exams were embarrassingly easy to subvert. Either the examiner (private contractor) was paid to make sure they passed by actually reading out the answers or someone was paid to sit in for the person taking the test. The person that was supposed to be tested would sit outside waiting for their pass paper. Then they would go on their merry way without knowing a single English word or anything to do with the country.
yeshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27993775

48,000 fraudulent passes but the number could be much higher.

smegmore

3,091 posts

176 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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jogon said:
yeshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27993775

48,000 fraudulent passes but the number could be much higher.
a fking disgrace.

The politicians responsible for this ought to hang their heads in shame.

They won't of course.

HonestIago

1,719 posts

186 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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smegmore said:
a fking disgrace.

The politicians responsible for this ought to hang their heads in shame.

They won't of course.
No, they ought to hang by their heads from lampposts!

wc98

10,375 posts

140 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Smiler. said:
Having listened to File on 4, the picture painted results in some rather serious questions for the UK Pakistani "community".

Possibly not everywhere in the UK, but seemingly anywhere where the "community" is of significant size.

For the branded racist xenophobe (like this poster), it's unsurprising given previous questions over the sea-change in local demographics resulting from mass localised immigration of an unintegrated populace.


Of course, this programme could just be a hatchet job.

But repeated use of "disrespect", "shame", "community", "tight-knit" & the accounts of responses from local mosques is outright damming.


It paints a picture of a widespread culture that so broken, so corrupt, so evil, where the vilest abuse of children is actioned by those at every level within this "community".

It deserves to be outed & banished from this planet for ever, but is would seem that those in the upper echelons want to keep the status quo.

You almost could not make this up.


I have a question for the politician that made this possible:

When did I ever get asked if it was OK to import a moronic, third world culture like this & have it establish itself down my street?
fantastic post,bang on the money.

smegmore

3,091 posts

176 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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HonestIago said:
smegmore said:
a fking disgrace.

The politicians responsible for this ought to hang their heads in shame.

They won't of course.
No, they ought to hang by their heads from lampposts!
I agree.

This also will never happen.

Sadly.

HonestIago

1,719 posts

186 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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smegmore said:
I agree.

This also will never happen.

Sadly.
A few MPs getting lynched for expense-fiddling/fraud/supporting paedophilia (Harman, Dromey etc) would do wonders for democracy in this country. The rest of them would certainly sit up, take notice and behave/vote in a manner accountable to their constituents.

Targarama

14,635 posts

283 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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mini1380cc said:
OpulentBob said:
The language thing is kind of already in place, I have an American colleague and friend who has been here for 10 years and is just applying for her naturalisation/passport this month. She has had to take an exam, I can't remember what she called it, but it involves proving your language skills and (basic) knowledge about the country.
There was a Panorama or Dispatches ( cant remember which) that shown these exams were embarrassingly easy to subvert. Either the examiner (private contractor) was paid to make sure they passed by actually reading out the answers or someone was paid to sit in for the person taking the test. The person that was supposed to be tested would sit outside waiting for their pass paper. Then they would go on their merry way without knowing a single English word or anything to do with the country.
Those places who get people through tests illegally always seem to be run by 'non native British'.

The American wouldn't need to take the English test. People from countries where English is the first language are excepted (there is an official list). They will have to take the Life In the UK test though - this got a lot harder recently. I bet 99.9% of PHers would fail it without a fair bit of studying (problem is that it bases questions/answers on specific figures in the revision book, not on reality and some questions are ambiguous).

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Targarama said:
mini1380cc said:
OpulentBob said:
The language thing is kind of already in place, I have an American colleague and friend who has been here for 10 years and is just applying for her naturalisation/passport this month. She has had to take an exam, I can't remember what she called it, but it involves proving your language skills and (basic) knowledge about the country.
There was a Panorama or Dispatches ( cant remember which) that shown these exams were embarrassingly easy to subvert. Either the examiner (private contractor) was paid to make sure they passed by actually reading out the answers or someone was paid to sit in for the person taking the test. The person that was supposed to be tested would sit outside waiting for their pass paper. Then they would go on their merry way without knowing a single English word or anything to do with the country.
Those places who get people through tests illegally always seem to be run by 'non native British'.

The American wouldn't need to take the English test. People from countries where English is the first language are excepted (there is an official list). They will have to take the Life In the UK test though - this got a lot harder recently. I bet 99.9% of PHers would fail it without a fair bit of studying (problem is that it bases questions/answers on specific figures in the revision book, not on reality and some questions are ambiguous).
My apologies, it is indeed the Life in the UK, but during discussions with her she implied that it was the only test and contained both lingual and cultural questions. My mistake. smile

Regarding the difficulty of the questions, one was, genuinely, "What is celebrated on December 25th"?

jogon

2,971 posts

158 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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graphene said:
11+, driving tests, professional qualifications (especially Accounting), even degrees in medicine are not immune from endemic cheating and fraud. I can imagine a future where even SAT exams have to be conducted with full hand-print scans, or even DNA tests, on entry, amongst booths constructed as Faraday cages.
The entire class due to take the exam stood up and left the room while they were replaced with English speaking people do it for them. In the multiple question round they didn't even read out the questions just the answers.

I agree that there is some fraudulent qualifications been achieved but one which grants you British citizenship and a passport should not be treated so lightly.

It was endemic at that site and probably is still going on now such is the joke that is the Home Office and Police.

carinaman

21,284 posts

172 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Smiler. said:
I have a question for the politician that made this possible:

When did I ever get asked if it was OK to import a moronic, third world culture like this & have it establish itself down my street?
You're not Kilroy-Silk are you? wink

I think he used the term 'backward'. Given what File on 4 said about a local mosque seemed to be burying the problem and spiriting those abused away, maybe he had a point.


I listened to to it too and WATO and will have to listen to them again.

As someone here said Sarah Champion MP for Rotherham saying the problem is 'resource heavy' for the police, sounds a bit wide of the mark given the televised raid at the Berks. apartment of Sir Cliff Richard.

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 29th October 15:53

mini1380cc

2,944 posts

171 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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OpulentBob said:
Regarding the difficulty of the questions, one was, genuinely, "What is celebrated on December 25th"?
And that is one question that the people in the Panorama feature would have failed on if they hadn't cheated. If you haven't seen it you should look out for it. I was gobsmacked when i seen how brazen they were about it.