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Dan_1981 said:
It would appear people don't want to change though - yesterday was the election for the PCC for Rotherham & surrounding areas after the resignation of Labours Sean Wright who oversaw the towns children's services during the abuse.
Results are in today and Labour have won with a larger majority than last time.
That in unbelievable!Results are in today and Labour have won with a larger majority than last time.
BBC said:
Doncaster council chief executive, Jo Miller, said the turnout at the ballot box in the town was only 3.5%, with 11.7% postal votes.
Three times as many postal votes as people turnng up at the ballot box. There really needs to be an investigation into the postal voting system.Dan_1981 said:
It would appear people don't want to change though - yesterday was the election for the PCC for Rotherham & surrounding areas after the resignation of Labours Sean Wright who oversaw the towns children's services during the abuse.
Results are in today and Labour have won with a larger majority than last time.
Increased turnout by <0.5%. UKIP came second, up from fourth last time.Results are in today and Labour have won with a larger majority than last time.
The Labour candidate pledged justice without a witch hunt.
Dan_1981 said:
It would appear people don't want to change though - yesterday was the election for the PCC for Rotherham & surrounding areas after the resignation of Labours Sean Wright who oversaw the towns children's services during the abuse.
Results are in today and Labour have won with a larger majority than last time.
Its rotherham its widely known that a labour mp could rape your gran, sorry nanan is local parlance and still get voted in. Results are in today and Labour have won with a larger majority than last time.
don4l said:
Three times as many postal votes as people turnng up at the ballot box. There really needs to be an investigation into the postal voting system.FiF said:
Fiona Woolf has just resigned as the chairman of the commission.
I get the feeling that there are forces at work that are trying their damnedest to derail and discredit this investigation.
I agree.I get the feeling that there are forces at work that are trying their damnedest to derail and discredit this investigation.
Does anyone know if the police attend a "diversity awareness" course? If so, is it centrally run, or iss it done at a local level.
All the other parties are failing to recognise and deal with the Labour party postal voting machine. It's time and must be a priority for any future government to reform this which is destroying our electoral system.
Secondly it shows how weak Labour is nationally that they are trumpeting this insignificant win in a nobody cares PCC election as having the same significance as a Tory loss of Rochester. Not forgetting that they are sworn to remove PCC posts if they return to government.
Thirdly no matter how you look at it this was poor result for UKIP. How much of that can result from having a candidate who served in the very force under question.
Fourthly does it still mean the dead dog with red rosette will be the winner in certain constituencies. Or blue rosette etc. If so just how in hell do we rid ourselves of tribalism.
Secondly it shows how weak Labour is nationally that they are trumpeting this insignificant win in a nobody cares PCC election as having the same significance as a Tory loss of Rochester. Not forgetting that they are sworn to remove PCC posts if they return to government.
Thirdly no matter how you look at it this was poor result for UKIP. How much of that can result from having a candidate who served in the very force under question.
Fourthly does it still mean the dead dog with red rosette will be the winner in certain constituencies. Or blue rosette etc. If so just how in hell do we rid ourselves of tribalism.
FiF said:
Fourthly does it still mean the dead dog with red rosette will be the winner in certain constituencies. Or blue rosette etc. If so just how in hell do we rid ourselves of tribalism.
Sadly, I don't think you can. I am sure that for many, it's written into their DNA, no amount of reasoning and no matter how bad the person in their 'tribe' is, they will always vote the same.Having said that, I am sure there is some amount of skulduggery regarding Labour and postal votes - it is a mystery to me why this has never been investigated, and reinforces my view that the whole system is rotten to the core.
chris watton said:
Having said that, I am sure there is some amount of skulduggery regarding Labour and postal votes - it is a mystery to me why this has never been investigated, and reinforces my view that the whole system is rotten to the core.
Me too. It warrants an investigation or some research but as it's nominally a secret ballot it's difficult to do even if completely practical given proper access. anonymous said:
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I live in East Lancashire and have not yet heard a Pakistani refer to themselves as anything other than Asian. I personally would be more interested in knowing when the arrests are going to start happening, or is historical sex abuse only worth pursuing with celebs?Mermaid said:
If Farage takes up dealing with this "cancer" in the UK society, the other parties will join in.
The other parties (particularly Labour) are almost entirely to blame for this "cancer" so I doubt anyone will see any effort they make to sort the problem as anything other than political opportunism.Only UKIP (and the BNP to be fair) actually oppose the rape of children by imported paedophiles.
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HonestIago said:
Only UKIP (and the BNP to be fair) actually oppose the rape of children by imported paedophiles.
Are you suggesting that the other parties are pro it? I must have another read of the conservative manifesto...This was brought to the public's attention a decade ago by Nick Griffin (who was then charged with inciting racial hatred). That was the opportunity for something to be done but instead it was brushed under the carpet. How are the main parties not responsible for this?
Edited by HonestIago on Monday 10th November 13:21
I think that Labour, whilst not "pro child abuse" (although I am willing to be challenged on that supposition based on the close links between PIE and senior Labour front benchers) were certainly far more prepared to turn a blind eye to what was going on so long as they continued to secure the majority of the immigrant vote.
Moreover, the left wing tactic of playing the R card early and with considerable vigour against anybody that questioned the policy of mass, uncontrolled immigration or the concept of multi culturalism has been so devastating, for so long, that it effectively shut the Tories and others out of any debate. No one could afford to be branded a racist. Even when communities spoke out they were either ignored or demonised for their words. I've been on here long enough to remember how even some PHers left scorch marks such was their haste to join in on the bashing of Mr Muslamic Raygun man. - Yep, play the man, ignore the message and all can carry on as before.
So the climate was not conducive to protest. Add in the fact that significant chunks of the public sector across all areas of the country are left leaning (particularly social services) and its easy to see how even in Tory controlled areas the left wing policy of promoting immigration and the benefits of multiculturalism for party political gain by wrong headed public sector workers would have been seen as the right thing to do.
In the 80s, it was said that the Tory shame was in accepting that "unemployment was a price worth paying" to fix the country's woes. For the last 40+ years it would appear that the Labour shame was in accepting that mass child abuse was a price worth paying to ensure the continuation of the policies of mass immigration and multiculturalism in order to gerrymander the socialist vote.
Moreover, the left wing tactic of playing the R card early and with considerable vigour against anybody that questioned the policy of mass, uncontrolled immigration or the concept of multi culturalism has been so devastating, for so long, that it effectively shut the Tories and others out of any debate. No one could afford to be branded a racist. Even when communities spoke out they were either ignored or demonised for their words. I've been on here long enough to remember how even some PHers left scorch marks such was their haste to join in on the bashing of Mr Muslamic Raygun man. - Yep, play the man, ignore the message and all can carry on as before.
So the climate was not conducive to protest. Add in the fact that significant chunks of the public sector across all areas of the country are left leaning (particularly social services) and its easy to see how even in Tory controlled areas the left wing policy of promoting immigration and the benefits of multiculturalism for party political gain by wrong headed public sector workers would have been seen as the right thing to do.
In the 80s, it was said that the Tory shame was in accepting that "unemployment was a price worth paying" to fix the country's woes. For the last 40+ years it would appear that the Labour shame was in accepting that mass child abuse was a price worth paying to ensure the continuation of the policies of mass immigration and multiculturalism in order to gerrymander the socialist vote.
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