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edh

3,498 posts

270 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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andymadmak said:
edh said:
Rubbish. Do you really believe the Labour party has been using the police as a social tool for the last 40 years?
Yes, actually, I do. The Labour party of the last 40 years has been hell bent on gerrymandering the vote in the country to ensure that they hold on to power as much as possible.

Postal vote fraud? - almost exclusively associated with the Labour Party

The inequality of constituencies - thank the Labour party for that (and most recently the Lib Dems)

The use of the R card to suppress any debate on immigration and multiculturalism - a solid Labour party (and left wing) tactic

The use of local authority workers to promote party political agenda at the expense of local tax payers - chalk another one up to the guys with the red rosettes.

Police and Social workers operated in an environment of super sensitivity to Political Correctness. To have your PC credentials questioned represented the kiss of death to your career, so they kept silent about what was happening. Yes the scum did the abusing, but their activities were enabled in part by the culture that the Labour Party fostered. And why did they foster that culture? Well aside from wanting to "rub the right wings nose in multiculturalism " it was because they believed that immigrants were more likely to vote for them. Simple as that. Getting elected meant bringing in more people to vote for you. Of course people would protest, so you simply branded them as racist and concentrated instead on "economic benefits".

Here's what one senior labour advisor confessed to just a few years ago:

daily telegraph article but you could find it in any number of sources said:
The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity", according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.
He said Labour's relaxation of controls was a deliberate plan to "open up the UK to mass migration" but that ministers were nervous and reluctant to discuss such a move publicly for fear it would alienate its "core working class vote".
As a result, the public argument for immigration concentrated instead on the economic benefits and need for more migrants.
Critics said the revelations showed a "conspiracy" within Government to impose mass immigration for "cynical" political reasons.
So you see, your Labour chums helped to create this problem simply for party political gain. That it was a nasty but unintended consequence of their gerrymandering is clear, but even when exposed to the truth of the matter they still persisted in their arguments instead of doing everything they could to protect the children.
Your assertions that political parties don't always play fair doesn't exactly surprise me. Look at Crosscheck in the US at the moment...Don't think for a minute that the tories latest attempts at boundary changes were anything than purely partisan. Everyone knows how valuable postal votes are - possibly more so in local elections as twice as likely to vote. Tories are just as guilty in politicising govt posts.

I don't buy the "PC" police for a moment. They chose to ignore all of this - "too hard" and not worth bothering with. Better to solve a bit more property crime.

Migration from the indian subcontinent has been going on for 50 years, so you can't just pin it on Blair. Their biggest influx was Eastern Europeans wasn't it?

I see Andrew Neather had a bit more to say

"Neather objected to this exaggeration of his comments. "Multiculturalism was not the primary point of the report or the speech", he clarified in a follow-up published three days after his original article. "The main goal was to allow in more migrant workers at a point when - hard as it is to imagine now - the booming economy was running up against skills shortages. But my sense from several discussions was there was also a subsidiary political purpose to it - boosting diversity and undermining the Right's opposition to multiculturalism."
"Somehow this has become distorted by excitable Right-wing newspaper columnists into being a 'plot' to make Britain multicultural", he said. "There was no plot. I've worked closely with [Barbara] Roche and Jack Straw and they are both decent, honourable people whom I respect (not something I'd say for many politicians)."
"The Right see plots everywhere and will hyperventilate at the drop of a chapati", he concluded. "The Left, however, will immediately accuse anyone who raises immigration as an issue as 'playing the race card' - as the Government has on several occasions over the past decade. Both sides need to grow up."

goldblum

10,272 posts

168 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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andymc said:
Mermaid said:
goldblum said:
Not in the last few years in Bradford apparently. Probably a few other places as well. Funny thing is it's quite well known up here (Manchester) that certain, ah sections of society - that may or may not consist of a number of Pakistani immigrants - have a penchant for white trash schoolies.
Once the elections are over, and if we have a majority Tory government, then we are likely to have a concerted effort to resolve this.
and the postal voting fraud and VAT swindling along with the F.G.M
Well if we're going that far we might as well tighten up the checks on taxi licences. Quite often you'll be picked up by the same car but with a different driver. This might happen more than once. A friend of mine was on the door of a club in Stockport when a taxi pulls a U across the main road, only to be smashed into by another car being driven waay too fast by a young man. Both cars block the main road and the taxi driver, before anyone can run over from the queue outside the club and say "you alright mate?", emerges from the taxi and sprints off to the amazement of all, leaving the car in the middle of the road. He was driving on his brother's taxi licence - see? According to the police report this type of thing is vogue within the Asian community in Gtr Manchester.


andymc

7,360 posts

208 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Just watched 24 hours in police custody where the officers attended the local mosque to brief the elders on a lovely man who subsequently got 3 years for beating his daughter over honor, why pander to these scum bags

andymc

7,360 posts

208 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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edh said:
andymadmak said:
edh said:
Rubbish. Do you really believe the Labour party has been using the police as a social tool for the last 40 years?
Yes, actually, I do. The Labour party of the last 40 years has been hell bent on gerrymandering the vote in the country to ensure that they hold on to power as much as possible.

Postal vote fraud? - almost exclusively associated with the Labour Party

The inequality of constituencies - thank the Labour party for that (and most recently the Lib Dems)

The use of the R card to suppress any debate on immigration and multiculturalism - a solid Labour party (and left wing) tactic

The use of local authority workers to promote party political agenda at the expense of local tax payers - chalk another one up to the guys with the red rosettes.

Police and Social workers operated in an environment of super sensitivity to Political Correctness. To have your PC credentials questioned represented the kiss of death to your career, so they kept silent about what was happening. Yes the scum did the abusing, but their activities were enabled in part by the culture that the Labour Party fostered. And why did they foster that culture? Well aside from wanting to "rub the right wings nose in multiculturalism " it was because they believed that immigrants were more likely to vote for them. Simple as that. Getting elected meant bringing in more people to vote for you. Of course people would protest, so you simply branded them as racist and concentrated instead on "economic benefits".

Here's what one senior labour advisor confessed to just a few years ago:

daily telegraph article but you could find it in any number of sources said:
The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity", according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.
He said Labour's relaxation of controls was a deliberate plan to "open up the UK to mass migration" but that ministers were nervous and reluctant to discuss such a move publicly for fear it would alienate its "core working class vote".
As a result, the public argument for immigration concentrated instead on the economic benefits and need for more migrants.
Critics said the revelations showed a "conspiracy" within Government to impose mass immigration for "cynical" political reasons.
So you see, your Labour chums helped to create this problem simply for party political gain. That it was a nasty but unintended consequence of their gerrymandering is clear, but even when exposed to the truth of the matter they still persisted in their arguments instead of doing everything they could to protect the children.
Your assertions that political parties don't always play fair doesn't exactly surprise me. Look at Crosscheck in the US at the moment...Don't think for a minute that the tories latest attempts at boundary changes were anything than purely partisan. Everyone knows how valuable postal votes are - possibly more so in local elections as twice as likely to vote. Tories are just as guilty in politicising govt posts.

I don't buy the "PC" police for a moment. They chose to ignore all of this - "too hard" and not worth bothering with. Better to solve a bit more property crime.

Migration from the indian subcontinent has been going on for 50 years, so you can't just pin it on Blair. Their biggest influx was Eastern Europeans wasn't it?

I see Andrew Neather had a bit more to say

"Neather objected to this exaggeration of his comments. "Multiculturalism was not the primary point of the report or the speech", he clarified in a follow-up published three days after his original article. "The main goal was to allow in more migrant workers at a point when - hard as it is to imagine now - the booming economy was running up against skills shortages. But my sense from several discussions was there was also a subsidiary political purpose to it - boosting diversity and undermining the Right's opposition to multiculturalism."
"Somehow this has become distorted by excitable Right-wing newspaper columnists into being a 'plot' to make Britain multicultural", he said. "There was no plot. I've worked closely with [Barbara] Roche and Jack Straw and they are both decent, honourable people whom I respect (not something I'd say for many politicians)."
"The Right see plots everywhere and will hyperventilate at the drop of a chapati", he concluded. "The Left, however, will immediately accuse anyone who raises immigration as an issue as 'playing the race card' - as the Government has on several occasions over the past decade. Both sides need to grow up."
I'm unsure if the Eastern Europeans have organised raping and grooming of young girls as high on their agenda

gpo746

3,397 posts

131 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
Genuine question which channel ?
Can't see mention of it. Genuine question I have links to Blackpool my niece went to the same school.
Looked around schedules etc

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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andymc said:
Just watched 24 hours in police custody where the officers attended the local mosque to brief the elders on a lovely man who subsequently got 3 years for beating his daughter over honor, why pander to these scum bags


That is religionist, and illegal.

gpo746

3,397 posts

131 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Thank you tonker !

Muntu

7,635 posts

200 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Pat Condell's latest video on youtube "Britain's cultural problem" makes some very astute points on the subject.

I would link to it, but I believe we aren't allowed to link to his videos for some reason?

andymc

7,360 posts

208 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Muntu said:
Pat Condell's latest video on youtube "Britain's cultural problem" makes some very astute points on the subject.

I would link to it, but I believe we aren't allowed to link to his videos for some reason?
frighteningly concise

andymc

7,360 posts

208 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Muntu said:
Pat Condell's latest video on youtube "Britain's cultural problem" makes some very astute points on the subject.

I would link to it, but I believe we aren't allowed to link to his videos for some reason?
frighteningly concise

Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

133 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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andymc said:
man who subsequently got 3 years for beating his daughter over honor,
andymc said:
why pander to these scum bags
So matey boy's doing three years. That being so it sounds like the answer to your question "why pander?" is that The Police, The CPS and the sentencing judge didn't.


kowalski655

14,656 posts

144 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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I think it referred to the visit to the mosque, what does it have to do with them? Will they briefthe council if a librarian gets done for drunk driving?
Maybe its relevant,I haven't seen the programme. Maybe they will ask the iman to mention in his sermon,or whatever the Muslims have,to NOT BE SO fkING PRIMITIVE!!!

andymc

7,360 posts

208 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Tannedbaldhead said:
andymc said:
man who subsequently got 3 years for beating his daughter over honor,
andymc said:
why pander to these scum bags
So matey boy's doing three years. That being so it sounds like the answer to your question "why pander?" is that The Police, The CPS and the sentencing judge didn't.
it was the visit to the mosque

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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1.5 years probably less. Don't forget.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Pandering to the easily offended bodes badly for democracy & all things precious. We get all too excited about Ebola, but this disease is running rampant. Pat Condell nails it.

HonestIago

1,719 posts

187 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Mermaid said:
Pandering to the easily offended bodes badly for democracy & all things precious. We get all too excited about Ebola, but this disease is running rampant. Pat Condell nails it.
Pat Condell's videos should be compulsory viewing for all Common Purpose/PC wish-washy "liberal" types. I don't think there is anyone who could counter what he says.

gruffalo

7,529 posts

227 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-30...

Is it possible to get this "community" to behave in a civilised way and actually respect the laws of the land in which they live?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Nope.

Subhuman scum. The fact WOMEN are involved (as perps) suggests it's not something "hidden" in the community. What was it, the entire family in on it?

Sharia marriage, what a surprise.

s.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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gruffalo said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-30...

Is it possible to get this "community" to behave in a civilised way and actually respect the laws of the land in which they live?
You try telling parasites to behave. Need a firecracker up their arse.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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OpulentBob said:
Nope.

Subhuman scum. The fact WOMEN are involved (as perps) suggests it's not something "hidden" in the community. What was it, the entire family in on it?

Sharia marriage, what a surprise.

s.
What would Darwin make of these creatures?