another abuse gang

[gruffalo]

Tannedbaldhead said:

andymc said:

man who subsequently got 3 years for beating his daughter over honor,

andymc said:

why pander to these scum bags

So matey boy's doing three years. That being so it sounds like the answer to your question "why pander?" is that The Police, The CPS and the sentencing judge didn't.

It seems that what ever happens it has to be talked over with the community http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/localnews/hig...

I am not sure why they are not part of the general community of the area where they have chosen to live but have to be separate and have special treatment.
Maybe next time someone in my village gets a knock on the door from the BiB maybe we should insist that they should have consulted the parish council first?;)

[Digga]

Mermaid said:

gruffalo said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-30...

Is it possible to get this "community" to behave in a civilised way and actually respect the laws of the land in which they live?

You try telling parasites to behave. Need a firecracker up their arse.

Elephant in the room question; why is the origin of the victim specified, but not that of people convicted?

[anonymous-user]

RACIST!!!!

[Pickled Piper]

andymc said:

Tannedbaldhead said:

andymc said:

man who subsequently got 3 years for beating his daughter over honor,

andymc said:

why pander to these scum bags

So matey boy's doing three years. That being so it sounds like the answer to your question "why pander?" is that The Police, The CPS and the sentencing judge didn't.

it was the visit to the mosque

On the face of it did appear that the Police were pandering to the community and walking on eggshells. However, the results speak for themselves. Matey boy was remanded so he could not go home and harass witnesses etc. and he was ultimately convicted. There is a good chance he will spend more than a year in jail. I call that a good result and good Policing.

The visit to the Mosque means that the community can't pull out the "Islamaphobia" card.

[Mermaid]

OpulentBob said:

RACIST!!!!

HONEST you mean, or did you mean REALIST.

[Mermaid]

Pickled Piper said:

...The visit to the Mosque means that the community can't pull out the "Islamaphobia" card.

That's how terrorised we are.

[Bill]

gruffalo said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-30...

Is it possible to get this "community" to behave in a civilised way and actually respect the laws of the land in which they live?

Really? Did you actually think that through before you posted?

[gruffalo]

Bill said:

gruffalo said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-30...

Is it possible to get this "community" to behave in a civilised way and actually respect the laws of the land in which they live?

Really? Did you actually think that through before you posted?

Yes but you obviously see an issue, I am genuinely interested to understand what that is?

[samuelellis]

gruffalo said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-30...

Is it possible to get this "community" to behave in a civilised way and actually respect the laws of the land in which they live?

The bit of this story that chills me to the bone is the lass was pregnant and the traffickers very nearly got her an abortion against her will, it was only due to an independent translator that it came to light

[Bill]

Well its not clear which particular community you mean but it is a very broad brush you're using, but then I don't suppose I should expect any better from this thread.

[gruffalo]

Bill said:

Well its not clear which particular community you mean but it is a very broad brush you're using, but then I don't suppose I should expect any better from this thread.

The Muslim, well the part that do not see them selves as part of the general UK community.

Not a day goes by without another abhorrent press release story, what can be done to stop the suffering they keep dishing out.

[Justayellowbadge]

gruffalo said:

Not a day goes by without another abhorrent press release story, what can be done to stop the suffering they keep dishing out.

Don't buy their paper.

[gruffalo]

Justayellowbadge said:

gruffalo said:

Not a day goes by without another abhorrent press release story, what can be done to stop the suffering they keep dishing out.

Don't buy their paper.

But that doesn't stop it happening, it just makes me ignorant of it.

[irocfan]

Bill said:

Well its not clear which particular community you mean but it is a very broad brush you're using, but then I don't suppose I should expect any better from this thread.

dude let's not beat around the bush here - the community we are referring to is the Muslim one. Given the location the odds are very good that it is a Pakistani community. Slice it whatever way you want that is not a good thing

[Bill]

Well, yes, as I said it's a broad brush you're using.

[Digga]

irocfan said:

dude let's not beat around the bush here - the community we are referring to is the Muslim one...

IMHO, the problem with the media dodging the issue is there is a danger that those less enlightened might understandably but incorrectly suspect any/all Asians or Muslims of involvement. Given the relative minority of both groups, you cannot expect the remainder of the population to be fully conversant with the differences therein.

I can see why some might wonder whether the media have an agenda to discredit Islam. I really don't like organised religion and the attendant dogma, but on the other hand, I have met enough Muslims to know they are clearly not all involved in the same mindset.

[gruffalo]

Bill said:

Well, yes, as I said it's a broad brush you're using.

But they seem to use a brush of similar width. If you look at the press releases there is invariably a call for the police to engage "the community leaders" to make sure they are kept in the loop about arrests of people who have broken or are suspected of breaking the law of the land they have made their home.

So if the Muslim leaders can bundle all Muslims be they good, bad or indifferent together under the banner of community so may others.

[Mermaid]

Digga said:

MHO, the problem with the media dodging the issue is there is a danger that those less enlightened might understandably but incorrectly suspect any/all Asians or Muslims of involvement. Given the relative minority of both groups, you cannot expect the remainder of the population to be fully conversant with the differences therein.

I can see why some might wonder whether the media have an agenda to discredit Islam. I really don't like organised religion and the attendant dogma, but on the other hand, I have met enough Muslims to know they are clearly not all involved in the same mindset.

Let's face it the media is not making up the stories - the perpetrators are. Find me even a tenth as many stories on this type of issue about Indians (who probably outnumber Pakistanis) or Jamaicans - the three main minority groups.

This is a Pakistani Muslim issue, and their "community" need to do something about - the same community that was consulted about the chappy jailed for assaulting his daughter (CH 4 programme).

I truly wish we did not have any of these situations for it affects "colour" relations. Many years ago, at the start of all this, I advocated a PR campaign on behalf of Muslims in order it affects behaviour. But what we have now has blighted the view of all Muslims, and especially Pakistanis.

[irocfan]

gruffalo said:

Bill said:

Well, yes, as I said it's a broad brush you're using.

But they seem to use a brush of similar width. If you look at the press releases there is invariably a call for the police to engage "the community leaders" to make sure they are kept in the loop about arrests of people who have broken or are suspected of breaking the law of the land they have made their home.

similar situation with Diddies innit - show then respect etc etc

[Mermaid]

Pakistani Muslims do hog the headlines for their population %, Blacks, Chinese, Indians must do better.


Ethnic Groups - 2011 Census data

Map showing the percentage of the population who are not white according to the 2011 census.
According to the 2011 Census, the ethnic composition of the United Kingdom was as set out in the table below.

Ethnic group 2011 population 2011%
White: Total 55,010,359 87.1
Gypsy/Traveller/ Irish Traveller: Total 63,193 0.1
Asian or Asian British: Indian 1,412,958 2.3
Asian or Asian British: Pakistani 1,174,983 1.9
Asian or Asian British: Bangladeshi 451,529 0.7
Asian or Asian British: Chinese 433,150 0.7
Asian or Asian British: Other Asian 861,815 1.4
Asian or Asian British: Total 4,373,339 6.9
Black or Black British: Total 1,904,684 3.0
Mixed Multiple: Total 1,250,229 2.0
Other Ethnic Group: Total 580,374 0.9
Total 63,182,178 100