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[Finlandia]

OpulentBob said:

Jesus christ, that's incredible. Have you got a link for that? Be interested in reading more.

On page 70 in this thread.

Finlandia said:

jshell said:

irocfan said:

FiF said:

Quite ^^^

Sweden a new hell for women

It's ridiculous that some blonde girls are using hair colour to alter their appearance and become a less desirable target even at school.

an interesting article for sure - but how much of it is tinfoil-hattery? Is this also the same publication that Anders Brevers was such a big fan of, in which case we must surely question the motives behind it? With both the 2 above points having been made in the interests of balance it must also be said that IF Sweden is as corrupt as is alleged a muck smearing exercise is a forgone conclusion

Some of the Swedish reporting is the cause of a hike in reported numbers. If a woman is raped over a period of weeks, months, years, then each 'act' is reported as a new case, ISTR. I'd have to look at specifics.

Quoting myself from another thread:

Finlandia said:

According to Brå (Bråttsförebyggande rådet) the actual figure of rapes in Sweden is 36,000 per year. The reported figure is around 6,000 of which less than 200 end up in a conviction.
According to a study conducted by Liz Kelly (Professor at Metropolitan University in London) only 2% of the reported rapes are false allegations.

Finlandia said:

In Sweden, as a rapist you are not likely to get punished or jailed, not even necessarily for gang rape. Sweden has one of the highest rape rates in Europe and one of the lowest solved rates, and only 25% of all rapes are reported (according to studies).

Recently there have been many high profile rape cases where the rapist(s) have been freed for the most bizarre reasons eg. even if the victim said no how could the rapist know it meant no, not fighting back hard enough against 7 or 8 men, a sex seller cannot be gang raped, bleeding only a little (from being raped with a bottle) and so on.



http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article16779918....

http://www.dn.se/sthlm/tonarspojkar-frias-fran-gru...

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article18575241....

http://www.expressen.se/kvallsposten/28-arig-man-f...

[jogon]

OpulentBob said:

Jesus christ, that's incredible. Have you got a link for that? Be interested in reading more.

The BBCs take on it blames Julian Assange but I'm not sure he is solely responsible for the sudden increase - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19592372 but if you google it you will come up with some more less fluffy pc excuses regarding the influx of muslim immigrants.


So they don't prosecute muslim gang rapists but try to extradite Assange for forgetting to put his condom on. You couldn't make this st up.

Edited by jogon on Friday 14th November 12:55

[Mermaid]

jogon said:

The BBCs take on it blames Julian Assange but I'm not sure he is solely responsible for the sudden increase - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19592372 but if you google it you will come up with some more less fluffy pc excuses regarding the influx of muslim immigrants.


So they don't prosecute muslim gang rapists but try to extradite Assange for forgetting to put his condom on. You couldn't make this st up.

Muhammad Assange and he would be OK, the government will not want to upset the mosque.

[maxxy5]

I may be wrong but one thing the Assange case flagged up was that Swedish 'rape' is legally very different to ours, so that may affect the statistics.

[smegmore]

maxxy5 said:

I may be wrong but one thing the Assange case flagged up was that Swedish 'rape' is legally very different to ours, so that may affect the statistics.

How can that be? Rape is rape, irrespective of the country or language.

[grumbledoak]

smegmore said:

maxxy5 said:

I may be wrong but one thing the Assange case flagged up was that Swedish 'rape' is legally very different to ours, so that may affect the statistics.

How can that be? Rape is rape, irrespective of the country or language.

It is another "Look, a squirrel" distraction. The immigrant gang rapes are old school rape, not "arguably, technically, not full consent" rape as used when Assange was (re)accused.

[Justayellowbadge]

smegmore said:

How can that be? Rape is rape, irrespective of the country or language.

I believe rape in the UK requires penile penetration. It may well be that offences considered sexual assault here are treated as rape elsewhere.

[andymc]

Justayellowbadge said:

smegmore said:

How can that be? Rape is rape, irrespective of the country or language.

I believe rape in the UK requires penile penetration. It may well be that offences considered sexual assault here are treated as rape elsewhere.

dont think so now

[Justayellowbadge]

andymc said:

Justayellowbadge said:

smegmore said:

How can that be? Rape is rape, irrespective of the country or language.

I believe rape in the UK requires penile penetration. It may well be that offences considered sexual assault here are treated as rape elsewhere.

dont think so now

The offence is created by section 1 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003:

“ 1-(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—

(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,

(b) B does not consent to the penetration, and

(c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

(2) Whether a belief is reasonable is to be determined having regard to all the circumstances, including any steps A has taken to ascertain whether B consents.

(3) Sections 75 and 76 apply to an offence under this section.

(4) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable, on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for life.

[Mermaid]

Justayellowbadge said:

The offence is created by section 1 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003:

“ 1-(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—

(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,

(b) B does not consent to the penetration, and

(c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

(2) Whether a belief is reasonable is to be determined having regard to all the circumstances, including any steps A has taken to ascertain whether B consents.

(3) Sections 75 and 76 apply to an offence under this section.

(4) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable, on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for life.

I would not want to be the interpreter for the guys in Rotherham, Wycombe, Luton. Manchester, wherever trying to explain this stuff to them

[goldblum]

andymc said:

Justayellowbadge said:

smegmore said:

How can that be? Rape is rape, irrespective of the country or language.

I believe rape in the UK requires penile penetration. It may well be that offences considered sexual assault here are treated as rape elsewhere.

dont think so now

I think the crime of rape can now be applied to non-penetrative sex in the case of a minor/teacher 'interaction'.

[andymc]

goldblum said:

andymc said:

Justayellowbadge said:

smegmore said:

How can that be? Rape is rape, irrespective of the country or language.

I believe rape in the UK requires penile penetration. It may well be that offences considered sexual assault here are treated as rape elsewhere.

dont think so now

I think the crime of rape can now be applied to non-penetrative sex in the case of a minor/teacher 'interaction'.

I think any form of penetration is rape, not just penile

[andymc]

Makes no odds, the dirty girls will have been asking for it so that's ok

[pad58]

andymc said:

Makes no odds, the dirty girls will have been asking for it so that's ok

I think this might have been the wrong thing to say.

[gpo746]

pad58 said:

andymc said:

Makes no odds, the dirty girls will have been asking for it so that's ok

I think this might have been the wrong thing to say.

Really ?
I think in some cases some of the "swagga" crowd in Bradford and the like its a 1st line of defence

[andymc]

pad58 said:

andymc said:

Makes no odds, the dirty girls will have been asking for it so that's ok

I think this might have been the wrong thing to say.

That's what they said in the radio interview, innit

[Finlandia]

Justayellowbadge said:

smegmore said:

How can that be? Rape is rape, irrespective of the country or language.

I believe rape in the UK requires penile penetration. It may well be that offences considered sexual assault here are treated as rape elsewhere.

Three guys got off charges for raping, it was charged as rape, a girl with a bottle here in Sweden recently. Why were they let off? Because the victim didn't bleed enough and her crying for them to stop may just have been her being shy.

I kid you not!

[irocfan]

Finlandia said:

Justayellowbadge said:

smegmore said:

How can that be? Rape is rape, irrespective of the country or language.

I believe rape in the UK requires penile penetration. It may well be that offences considered sexual assault here are treated as rape elsewhere.

Three guys got off charges for raping, it was charged as rape, a girl with a bottle here in Sweden recently. Why were they let off? Because the victim didn't bleed enough and her crying for them to stop may just have been her being shy.

I kid you not!

and were these gentlemen from a backward area originally?

[FiF]

Umeå is fairly backward whichever way you look at it.

[FiF]

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