another abuse gang
Discussion
freakybacon said:
Good that it is being detected, but Rochdale, again? What on earth is going on.It seems clear from this, and the previous reported incident, that they really don;t care who they target. Poor, marginalised white girls are probably abundant in the list of victims by dint of being just most accessible, but incidents with Muslim girls - potentially closer linked to the gangs and presumably thereby riskier - and in this case even children make you think the depravity is extremely deep rooted and thoroughly evil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha
Well, it was proven to be acceptable by a 53 year old prophet Mo and, at best, a 9 year old bride.
Although looking at that article, it doesn't seem to matter if they're boys or girls. Seems like they want to f
k anything young and unable to fight back.
Well, it was proven to be acceptable by a 53 year old prophet Mo and, at best, a 9 year old bride.
Although looking at that article, it doesn't seem to matter if they're boys or girls. Seems like they want to f
k anything young and unable to fight back.OpulentBob said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha
Well, it was proven to be acceptable by a 53 year old prophet Mo and, at best, a 9 year old bride.
Although looking at that article, it doesn't seem to matter if they're boys or girls. Seems like they want to fk anything young and unable to fight back.
Bit of a stupid assertion. It's like saying English paedophiles think having sex with underage children is acceptable because various English monarchs did it in the past.Well, it was proven to be acceptable by a 53 year old prophet Mo and, at best, a 9 year old bride.
Although looking at that article, it doesn't seem to matter if they're boys or girls. Seems like they want to f
k anything young and unable to fight back.Perverts are perverts. They don't need any excuse. And yes, rapists/paedophiles will target those who are weaker than themselves.
not in the slightest bit creepy " There are also various traditions that reveal the mutual affection between Muhammad and Aisha. He would often just sit and watch her and her friends play with dolls, and on occasion he would even join them"
Seriously we can't deport them as most were born here or hold passports, can we boycott their taxis?
Seriously we can't deport them as most were born here or hold passports, can we boycott their taxis?
smegmore said:
Source please.
Richard II &Isabella of ValoisKing John & Isabella of Angoulemr
Some context.
http://www.thedigitalfolklife.org/childmarriage.ht...
Countdown said:
Richard II &Isabella of Valois
King John & Isabella of Angoulemr
Some context.
http://www.thedigitalfolklife.org/childmarriage.ht...
Meh.King John & Isabella of Angoulemr
Some context.
http://www.thedigitalfolklife.org/childmarriage.ht...
Marriages of convenience for fiscal gain or "pro bono pacis" where in many cases the children never left the nursery (quote) where there was no sexual contact between the parties and you equate this with the antics of the Pakistani communities in places like Rochdale and Birmingham?
A poor 2/10, must do better.
Get real.
Countdown said:
smegmore said:
Source please.
Richard II &Isabella of ValoisKing John & Isabella of Angoulemr
Some context.
http://www.thedigitalfolklife.org/childmarriage.ht...
Edited by heppers75 on Wednesday 26th November 17:13
heppers75 said:
I am not sure but I don't think there are millions of followers of King Richard or John kicking around in the world today who hold every word and utterance of theirs to be tantamount to the word of god and must be followed without question or deviation though - or are there?
And you think a bunch of taxi drivers who drink alcohol and take drugs sleep with underage girls because they supposedly follow Islam? (as opposed to the fact that they're a bunch of semi-literate perverts who couldn't get a normal female to look at them twice)?Countdown said:
And you think a bunch of taxi drivers who drink alcohol and take drugs sleep with underage girls because they supposedly follow Islam? (as opposed to the fact that they're a bunch of semi-literate perverts who couldn't get a normal female to look at them twice)?
A pick-and-mix religion then?
smegmore said:
Countdown said:
And you think a bunch of taxi drivers who drink alcohol and take drugs sleep with underage girls because they supposedly follow Islam? (as opposed to the fact that they're a bunch of semi-literate perverts who couldn't get a normal female to look at them twice)?
A pick-and-mix religion then?Countdown said:
heppers75 said:
I am not sure but I don't think there are millions of followers of King Richard or John kicking around in the world today who hold every word and utterance of theirs to be tantamount to the word of god and must be followed without question or deviation though - or are there?
And you think a bunch of taxi drivers who drink alcohol and take drugs sleep with underage girls because they supposedly follow Islam? (as opposed to the fact that they're a bunch of semi-literate perverts who couldn't get a normal female to look at them twice)?However I would contend irrespective of how perverse and sub-human they are that even they need a justification and some sort of structure within themselves that allows it to occur, the fact that their chosen deity practiced the same actions, like it as not is likely to be on some level a part of that internal justification.
In the same way that you get the backwater imams in Bangladesh saying what the guy in the youtube link further down this thread did.
If your chosen belief system and structure can provide you support for your actions, particularly when it is sky fairy related, then history has taught us all manner of atrocities are justified by the perpetrators of them, from the Crusades to the KKK and beyond.
heppers75 said:
No I don't think that is why they do it at all, they do it because they are perverted and sub-human.
I agree. It's a shame that more stringent punishment couldn't have been applied.heppers75 said:
However I would contend irrespective of how perverse and sub-human they are that even they need a justification and some sort of structure within themselves that allows it to occur, the fact that their chosen deity practiced the same actions, like it as not is likely to be on some level a part of that internal justification.
The chosen belief system goes on and on (at length) about No alcohol/No drugs/No sex outside of marriage. What I think you're suggesting is that they ignored all that part of their Islamic teachings yet used something which isn't actually taught in any mosque /madrasah as justification for what they were doing? They didn't need justification. They are just a bunch of perverts out for sexual kicks. I sincerely doubt Perverts/paedophiles have some internal moral struggle over the rights and wrongs of what they're doing, let alone relying on obscure passages in the Koran to salve their conscience.
Countdown said:
heppers75 said:
No I don't think that is why they do it at all, they do it because they are perverted and sub-human.
I agree. It's a shame that more stringent punishment couldn't have been applied.heppers75 said:
However I would contend irrespective of how perverse and sub-human they are that even they need a justification and some sort of structure within themselves that allows it to occur, the fact that their chosen deity practiced the same actions, like it as not is likely to be on some level a part of that internal justification.
The chosen belief system goes on and on (at length) about No alcohol/No drugs/No sex outside of marriage. What I think you're suggesting is that they ignored all that part of their Islamic teachings yet used something which isn't actually taught in any mosque /madrasah as justification for what they were doing? They didn't need justification. They are just a bunch of perverts out for sexual kicks. I sincerely doubt Perverts/paedophiles have some internal moral struggle over the rights and wrongs of what they're doing, let alone relying on obscure passages in the Koran to salve their conscience.
I would also possibly totally agree that their chosen belief system was not a part of this particular issue, however we seem to be having proven overwhelmingly as these stories reach the surface that there are not that many common denominators within the perpetrators and again like it or not their chosen belief system is an overwhelming common denominator.
If we could say that only lets say 10% or even say 30% were of a given demographic and there were another 4 or 5 other demographic profiles equally in play for these perpetrators then this thread would not exist.
The problem is that is not the case, you might not like it, you might not want to hear it, that might be because you are a follower of that same religion, maye a part of the demographic in part, or just don't like that kind of connection being made for whatever reason. However I am afraid the facts are the facts and the connections are not that tentative or require much in the way of a leap of any faith to understand.
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