another abuse gang
Discussion
Guam said:
The comments are interesting on that page, seems like a data massaging exercise judging by some of the comments.
The fallout from Camila Batmanghelidjh and Kids Company reminded me of the Barnados involvement in what's next in Rotherham made me go to see what the thoughts about their (barnados) involvement was. Guam said:
carinaman said:
https://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.com/2015/08/05...
Seems 2/3rds of those sexually abusing kids in Rotherham aren't Asian.
The comments are interesting on that page, seems like a data massaging exercise judging by some of the comments.Seems 2/3rds of those sexually abusing kids in Rotherham aren't Asian.
Latest Census data shows that the Asian group makes up 4.14% of the population (including Chinese) and that whites make up 93.5% of the population.
Hardly surprising that the majority of cases are committed by non-Asians, however why is the racial group so over represented in abuse cases for such a small % of the population?
Not what this independent report suggests...
http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/in...
"By far the majority of perpetrators were described as 'Asian' by victims, yet throughout the entire
period, councillors did not engage directly with the Pakistani-heritage community to discuss how
best they could jointly address the issue. Some councillors seemed to think it was a one-off problem,
which they hoped would go away. Several staff described their nervousness about identifying the
ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others remembered clear direction
from their managers not to do so."
http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/in...
"By far the majority of perpetrators were described as 'Asian' by victims, yet throughout the entire
period, councillors did not engage directly with the Pakistani-heritage community to discuss how
best they could jointly address the issue. Some councillors seemed to think it was a one-off problem,
which they hoped would go away. Several staff described their nervousness about identifying the
ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others remembered clear direction
from their managers not to do so."
Dan_1981 said:
however why is the racial group so over represented in abuse cases for such a small % of the population?
CPS lead on child sexual abuse and violence against women and girls said:
“I don’t want to play it down. The ethnicity of these perpetrators is what it is. It is a matter of fact. It is an issue that has to be addressed by the state, and the authorities and the community – but it’s important to contextualise this,” he says, racing rapidly through his arguments, twizzling a paper-clip in his fingers in time with his swift delivery.
He notes that the amount of media attention devoted to child sex abuse cases is inconsistent. He led the legal teams that reopened and successfully prosecuted the Rochdale grooming case in 2012, over the abuse of 47 girls by a group of Asian men. “A few weeks after the Rochdale case, we dealt with a case of 10 white men in North Yorkshire who had been abusing young girls, and they were all convicted and they got long sentences. It didn’t get the level of coverage,” he says.
Where there is involvement of Asian men or men of Pakistani origin, he points to a practical, rather than cultural explanation – the fact that in the areas where grooming scandals have been uncovered, those controlling the night-time economy, people working through the night in takeaways and driving minicabs, are predominantly Asian men.
He notes that the amount of media attention devoted to child sex abuse cases is inconsistent. He led the legal teams that reopened and successfully prosecuted the Rochdale grooming case in 2012, over the abuse of 47 girls by a group of Asian men. “A few weeks after the Rochdale case, we dealt with a case of 10 white men in North Yorkshire who had been abusing young girls, and they were all convicted and they got long sentences. It didn’t get the level of coverage,” he says.
Where there is involvement of Asian men or men of Pakistani origin, he points to a practical, rather than cultural explanation – the fact that in the areas where grooming scandals have been uncovered, those controlling the night-time economy, people working through the night in takeaways and driving minicabs, are predominantly Asian men.
Just breaking on Al Jazeera live but cannot find a link on their site so here it is on a local Pakistan site:
http://en.dailyPakistan.com.pk/headline/Pakistans-...
This is being called 'The tip of the iceburg'. Where have I heard that before!
Phil
http://en.dailyPakistan.com.pk/headline/Pakistans-...
This is being called 'The tip of the iceburg'. Where have I heard that before!
Phil
Aaaand, they're gone..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
jshell said:
Aaaand, they're gone..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
its not a worry, its cultural, 3rd world scumandymc said:
jshell said:
Aaaand, they're gone..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
its not a worry, its cultural, 3rd world scumHindsight. What a wonderful thing.
Wandering around the flat this morning getting ready for work, when I noticed the channel that I had left the TV on was showing one of those Crime/Road Rage/Shoplifter/Crash/Action programmes which was dated from 2005.
On it were two errr... shall we say interesting ladies, clearly four sheets to the wind who were arrested for refusing to pay their taxi fare. Their excuse was that the taxi driver had said they could forget the fare if they "showed him their tits," and they were so offended that they weren't going to pay. They were arrested (over £8.50!) and then in the police car, Jamie Theakstons ominous voiceover said "racism now raises its ugly head," in his finest judgemental tones.
"You always take their side, they're always right, they're allowed to get away with murder," says one of the girls.
"Who do you mean by they?" says the officer.
"You know,"
The girls spent the night in the cells and received a caution (Over £8.50!!).
Bearing in mind this was Rotherham, want to guess the ethnicity of the taxi driver??
Wandering around the flat this morning getting ready for work, when I noticed the channel that I had left the TV on was showing one of those Crime/Road Rage/Shoplifter/Crash/Action programmes which was dated from 2005.
On it were two errr... shall we say interesting ladies, clearly four sheets to the wind who were arrested for refusing to pay their taxi fare. Their excuse was that the taxi driver had said they could forget the fare if they "showed him their tits," and they were so offended that they weren't going to pay. They were arrested (over £8.50!) and then in the police car, Jamie Theakstons ominous voiceover said "racism now raises its ugly head," in his finest judgemental tones.
"You always take their side, they're always right, they're allowed to get away with murder," says one of the girls.
"Who do you mean by they?" says the officer.
"You know,"
The girls spent the night in the cells and received a caution (Over £8.50!!).
Bearing in mind this was Rotherham, want to guess the ethnicity of the taxi driver??
The Hypno-Toad said:
Hindsight. What a wonderful thing.
It's very easy to typecast the non-working classes, indeed many middle-class, lefty comedians have done well out of it - think of Vicky Pollard in Little Britain, but it is equally as stupid and dangerous as racism.Clearly, there were elements of society who realised these types of kids were outsiders and used the fact to get away from chronic abuse for a significant time. The real lesson for everyone ought to be that just because you don't happen to understand or even like someone, or what they stand for, or what they might say, does not necessarily follow that everything they say and think is wrong.
Digga said:
t's very easy to typecast the non-working classes, indeed many middle-class, lefty comedians have done well out of it - think of Vicky Pollard in Little Britain, but it is equally as stupid and dangerous as racism.
Clearly, there were elements of society who realised these types of kids were outsiders and used the fact to get away from chronic abuse for a significant time. The real lesson for everyone ought to be that just because you don't happen to understand or even like someone, or what they stand for, or what they might say, does not necessarily follow that everything they say and think is wrong
the problem is that for a lot of lefties the bolded is exactly how they think Clearly, there were elements of society who realised these types of kids were outsiders and used the fact to get away from chronic abuse for a significant time. The real lesson for everyone ought to be that just because you don't happen to understand or even like someone, or what they stand for, or what they might say, does not necessarily follow that everything they say and think is wrong
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34219235
Another bunch sentenced at last.. This time some middle aged white blokes. words fail me
Another bunch sentenced at last.. This time some middle aged white blokes. words fail me
andymadmak said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34219235
Another bunch sentenced at last.. This time some middle aged white blokes. words fail me
Total scum. There is no fitting sentence possible with a humane and civilised justice system. I am undecided whether it is a good, bad or indifferent thing, but prisons are full of the inhumane and uncivil, who will likely see fit to mete their own brand of punishment on these people.Another bunch sentenced at last.. This time some middle aged white blokes. words fail me
Digga said:
andymadmak said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34219235
Another bunch sentenced at last.. This time some middle aged white blokes. words fail me
Total scum. There is no fitting sentence possible with a humane and civilised justice system. I am undecided whether it is a good, bad or indifferent thing, but prisons are full of the inhumane and uncivil, who will likely see fit to mete their own brand of punishment on these people.Another bunch sentenced at last.. This time some middle aged white blokes. words fail me
s.jshell said:
Digga said:
andymadmak said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34219235
Another bunch sentenced at last.. This time some middle aged white blokes. words fail me
Total scum. There is no fitting sentence possible with a humane and civilised justice system. I am undecided whether it is a good, bad or indifferent thing, but prisons are full of the inhumane and uncivil, who will likely see fit to mete their own brand of punishment on these people.Another bunch sentenced at last.. This time some middle aged white blokes. words fail me
s.mat777 said:
Are they of a similar heritage to the other recent gang?
If yes, then look at the average age of (forced) brides in their home countries, and couple this with their attitude to white girls being worthless trash
You ignorant fool. What a completely worthless statement. If yes, then look at the average age of (forced) brides in their home countries, and couple this with their attitude to white girls being worthless trash
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34219235
Do these look like meets of the 'similar heritage'.
Well, the Muslim 'community' has apparently had enough in Rotherham. The youth, and the elders, have decided to boycott the Police.
It appears the Police are not doing enough about hate crime. The Muslim 'community' are all over this lack of action by the police. Pity they weren't all over the lack of Police action over the many peodophiles in their midst. Any cries that they didn't know about it just don't wash.
And don't forget, we only got Police action after the media informed us about it, after a lost legal campaign by the Labour council and Police to prevent the truth coming out.
It appears the Police are not doing enough about hate crime. The Muslim 'community' are all over this lack of action by the police. Pity they weren't all over the lack of Police action over the many peodophiles in their midst. Any cries that they didn't know about it just don't wash.
And don't forget, we only got Police action after the media informed us about it, after a lost legal campaign by the Labour council and Police to prevent the truth coming out.
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