another abuse gang

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jshell

11,006 posts

204 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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And another group going down: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35651366

2 women this time, though!

gruffalo

7,509 posts

225 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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They are women?


Digga

40,206 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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Bribed with kebabs by the looks of things.

bds, the lot of them.

jshell

11,006 posts

204 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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jshell said:
And another group going down: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35651366

2 women this time, though!
I'm quoting it as the Beeb has updated the story since first posting. The levels of physical abuse dished out are fecking unbelievable!!

Trax

1,527 posts

231 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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Alpinestars said:
andymadmak said:
Alpinestars said:
Agreed. Must stop this!

It's a heinous crime and I'd certainly want the authorities to be proactive in managing it. Including who knew what, and why those that did know, didn't report it. I doubt these things generally go under the radar before the police get involved.
Crikey you're brave to express that opinion! you only have to look at this and other threads to see that any suggestion that some in the wider community must have known and clearly did not report what was going on is usually the cue for cries of RACIST! or that you're trying to victimise an entire community for the actions of some men who purely by coincidence happen to be part of that community.....
I said I don't believe some parts of the "community" would not have know. What I don't know is whether some of those people reported it, and it was not actioned, or whether none of them reported it. I'm not sure any of us know that, so I don't think one can categorically say that "some in the wider community must have known and CLEARLY DID NOT REPORT what was going on" (my emphasis). Like in all walks of life, people around criminals know more than the rest of us, but invariably not all of those in the know do anything about it. For Winston's benefit, that does not make the position of the people who did not report it right, but that's how life goes.
Its not really acceptable to let the people who knew about this but didnty report it of the hook. Is it a problem with this community?

I remember reading recently about the community who the British Beatles, or whatever they were called - Jihadi John and his friends, and the local mosques who they belonged to, were worried about their radicalisation, so guess what, just kicked them out. No report to people who could deal with them, just throw them out.

Now thats concerns about terrorists which this community just brushes asside, so abusing young white girls, thats nothing....

carinaman

21,221 posts

171 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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Sam All said:
Digga said:
If the rules say some of these criminals can be deported as a result of their actions, then they most certainly should IMHO. It will send a strong, if belated message, about the conduct required for UK citizens.
Yes, but I am with Mr_B - this primitive savage will probably get to stay here. frown
'These aren't British values, you've broken British laws, a message needs to be sent so you're being deported.'

Shame we cannot deport the the two women too.

Sam All

3,101 posts

100 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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Savages - no doubt there are hundreds, thousands more of that lot.

Castration for a 2nd offence anyone?

carinaman

21,221 posts

171 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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Castrate the Councillors and Police that were more concerned about Political Correctness, looked the other way and sat on their hands?

RobinOakapple

2,802 posts

111 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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anonymous said:
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Good point.

carinaman

21,221 posts

171 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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anonymous said:
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carinaman

21,221 posts

171 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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The Constable's Oath mentions equal respect for all people, fundamental Human Rights and upholding the law.

If sworn officers aren't going to do that they should not say the Constable's Oath.

grumbledoak

31,499 posts

232 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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carinaman said:
The Council used public money to take out an injunction to try to stop The Times covering it:

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/girls-suffered-counc...

pressgazette said:
It emerged yesterday that no council employees will face disciplinary action
Everyone involved should be prosecuted as accessories.

carinaman

21,221 posts

171 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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grumbledoak said:
carinaman said:
The Council used public money to take out an injunction to try to stop The Times covering it:

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/girls-suffered-counc...

pressgazette said:
It emerged yesterday that no council employees will face disciplinary action
Everyone involved should be prosecuted as accessories.
You'd think using public money to take out an injunction against a newspaper exposing sex crimes against minors and child prostitution would result in prosecution.

Those British values again......

freakybacon

549 posts

162 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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So that's another four "Asian " men convicted of child molesting. Are there any sensible websites keeping track of the convictions?

voyds9

8,488 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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We could well see more police, social workers etc punished than perpetrators

That has to be wrong.

carinaman

21,221 posts

171 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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It seems the child abusers and pimps were operating with impunity for over decade and that they were involved in drugs and weapons as well as child prostitution.

Was a child support worker that made a stink about it threatened?

So it was Political Correctness considerations like the New Year's Eve sexual assaults in Cologne or more the police allowing the perpetrators to operate with impunity? Political Correctness or corruption?

Digga

40,206 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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The truth WRT to these individuals also being involved in crime and quasi-terrorist operations and operating with impunity for years is also now acknowledged. This is ongoing in numerous other towns and cities right now. There are, as I've mentioned before, ongoing investigations.

Digga

40,206 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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Interesting to hear Muhbeen Hussain of the British Muslim Youth talk on the BBC. He thinks there should be more prosecutions and that he would like to see more of the 1,400 victims speaking out as the brave witnesses did today. He also thinks there may be Muslim victims who dare not speak out because of culturall issues.

carinaman

21,221 posts

171 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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freakybacon said:
So that's another four "Asian " men convicted of child molesting. Are there any sensible websites keeping track of the convictions?


And two non-Asian women.

Sam All

3,101 posts

100 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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Digga said:
Interesting to hear Muhbeen Hussain of the British Muslim Youth talk on the BBC. He thinks there should be more prosecutions and that he would like to see more of the 1,400 victims speaking out as the brave witnesses did today. He also thinks there may be Muslim victims who dare not speak out because of culturall issues.
Let's talk about how many more perpetrators there are out there still. And how many in their community know about it and stay silent.

You need a campaign to flush this scum out, even if it means turning cousin against cousin.

Once again, most are Pakistani Muslims. Not Sikhs, Buddhists etc. Also the fastest growing minority group in this country. The trend is clear. The danger is present. Blind eye so far, ears closed.

Perhaps Malala should rebuke, that might influence behaviour.