another abuse gang
Discussion
Digga said:
The concern I have is the public perception that this happened in the past and has been dealt with, whereas we know investigations are ongoing, offences are ongoing and the abuse gangs sphere of activities, in many cases, also links into other significant areas of crime that blight the country. One would hope the police still have this as priority, even if the press and public don't always seem to.
Agreed. The press should be making as much noise about this as they did about Saville and the like. All prosecutions of large scale abuse should be headline news. One in the East Anglia area involving systematic abuse by staff and priests at a Catholic orphanage was on local bulletins but not even mentioned on national news. I'm sure there are many other examples from all areas.rscott said:
Digga said:
The concern I have is the public perception that this happened in the past and has been dealt with, whereas we know investigations are ongoing, offences are ongoing and the abuse gangs sphere of activities, in many cases, also links into other significant areas of crime that blight the country. One would hope the police still have this as priority, even if the press and public don't always seem to.
Agreed. The press should be making as much noise about this as they did about Saville and the like. All prosecutions of large scale abuse should be headline news. One in the East Anglia area involving systematic abuse by staff and priests at a Catholic orphanage was on local bulletins but not even mentioned on national news. I'm sure there are many other examples from all areas.del mar said:
rscott said:
Digga said:
The concern I have is the public perception that this happened in the past and has been dealt with, whereas we know investigations are ongoing, offences are ongoing and the abuse gangs sphere of activities, in many cases, also links into other significant areas of crime that blight the country. One would hope the police still have this as priority, even if the press and public don't always seem to.
Agreed. The press should be making as much noise about this as they did about Saville and the like. All prosecutions of large scale abuse should be headline news. One in the East Anglia area involving systematic abuse by staff and priests at a Catholic orphanage was on local bulletins but not even mentioned on national news. I'm sure there are many other examples from all areas.rscott said:
del mar said:
rscott said:
Digga said:
The concern I have is the public perception that this happened in the past and has been dealt with, whereas we know investigations are ongoing, offences are ongoing and the abuse gangs sphere of activities, in many cases, also links into other significant areas of crime that blight the country. One would hope the police still have this as priority, even if the press and public don't always seem to.
Agreed. The press should be making as much noise about this as they did about Saville and the like. All prosecutions of large scale abuse should be headline news. One in the East Anglia area involving systematic abuse by staff and priests at a Catholic orphanage was on local bulletins but not even mentioned on national news. I'm sure there are many other examples from all areas.dudleybloke said:
"father of seven with ten grandchildren" ten so far Yay now we get to pay for them all fabulous.
Countdown said:
voyds9 said:
For the kids I would guess Income Support or child support, housing benefits, probably carers allowance, mobility allowance.
What is your guess based on? Do you know them?Perhaps all 7 children could be grown, professional members of society doctors, solicitors, etc, claiming no benefits and supporting their mother.
Perhaps the Imam was drawing enough funds from his job to support himself and wife and 7 children.
But statistically those of Pakistani or Bangladeshi backgrounds are more likely to be supported by the state
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston...
voyds9 said:
Wild guess.
Perhaps all 7 children could be grown, professional members of society doctors, solicitors, etc, claiming no benefits and supporting their mother.
Perhaps the Imam was drawing enough funds from his job to support himself and wife and 7 children.
Wild guess my arse.Perhaps all 7 children could be grown, professional members of society doctors, solicitors, etc, claiming no benefits and supporting their mother.
Perhaps the Imam was drawing enough funds from his job to support himself and wife and 7 children.
The original article says the Imam had grandchildren so his 7 children (or at least some of them) are adults. Which means he can't be claiming benefits for them. I've no idea whether he's claiming benefits for himself or his wife OR whether his kids are claiming benefits or his grandkids are claiming benefits. It's not even relevant to the thread particularly but it's a handy way for you and Pesty to reveal you own prejudices.
The thread's about a pervert abusing kids. But to you it seems far more important that it's an "immigrant" and therefore he must be claiming benefits.
Countdown said:
Wild guess my arse.
The thread's about a pervert abusing kids. But to you it seems far more important that it's an "immigrant" and therefore he must be claiming benefits.
Can you point out where I said he was an immigrant.The thread's about a pervert abusing kids. But to you it seems far more important that it's an "immigrant" and therefore he must be claiming benefits.
I assumed he was of Bangladeshi ancestry from where he fled to, his appearance and name.
But I made no assumption of where he was born.
The article I linked to was about ethnicity not birth country.
And as you seem to be as someone in the know about benefits is it possible to claim carers allowance for someone who doesn't live with you.
rscott said:
dudleybloke said:
I want to know why he was out on bail with such serious offences.
Seems it's normal for bail to be allowed in historical cases like this (the alleged offences happened 30 years ago). See any of the recent celebrity cases for examples Will the sentence be upped as a result of the abscondence I wonder.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37682136
More places needed, hopefully these creatures will be held in custody until sentencing!!
More places needed, hopefully these creatures will be held in custody until sentencing!!
Will these be treat the same as your traditional white pedo ?
Will other Muslim prisoners consider them nonces, or would they believe that they have done nothing wrong ?
Australian Imam said
"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?
"The uncovered meat is the problem."
Will other Muslim prisoners consider them nonces, or would they believe that they have done nothing wrong ?
Australian Imam said
"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?
"The uncovered meat is the problem."
rscott said:
del mar said:
rscott said:
Digga said:
The concern I have is the public perception that this happened in the past and has been dealt with, whereas we know investigations are ongoing, offences are ongoing and the abuse gangs sphere of activities, in many cases, also links into other significant areas of crime that blight the country. One would hope the police still have this as priority, even if the press and public don't always seem to.
Agreed. The press should be making as much noise about this as they did about Saville and the like. All prosecutions of large scale abuse should be headline news. One in the East Anglia area involving systematic abuse by staff and priests at a Catholic orphanage was on local bulletins but not even mentioned on national news. I'm sure there are many other examples from all areas.The following words will give a result in "search"
Priest
Church
Catholic Church
Politician
Police
Taxi
Grooming Gang
Westminster
MP
Even "Scott" gets 4 hits....
These words will not
Pakistan
Muslim
Islam
Imam
Mosque triggers one response, which is from the introduction making reference to all places of worship.
You are correct all should be addressed, abuse is abuse irrespective of who carries it out, but even at the top level "we" still can not say the words. I imagine that if the Enquiry ever actually happens that the above words will appear more and more, however for some reason we cant say from the outset that "The Enquiry will be investigating Muslim Grooming Gangs".
I wrote to my MP to raise concerns about Rotherham and the like - I used the "M" word several times in relation to grooming young white girls, his response referred to the "grooming of young girls"
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