another abuse gang
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del mar said:
rscott said:
del mar said:
rscott said:
Digga said:
The concern I have is the public perception that this happened in the past and has been dealt with, whereas we know investigations are ongoing, offences are ongoing and the abuse gangs sphere of activities, in many cases, also links into other significant areas of crime that blight the country. One would hope the police still have this as priority, even if the press and public don't always seem to.
Agreed. The press should be making as much noise about this as they did about Saville and the like. All prosecutions of large scale abuse should be headline news. One in the East Anglia area involving systematic abuse by staff and priests at a Catholic orphanage was on local bulletins but not even mentioned on national news. I'm sure there are many other examples from all areas.The following words will give a result in "search"
Priest
Church
Catholic Church
Politician
Police
Taxi
Grooming Gang
Westminster
MP
Even "Scott" gets 4 hits....
These words will not
Pakistan
Muslim
Islam
Imam
Mosque triggers one response, which is from the introduction making reference to all places of worship.
You are correct all should be addressed, abuse is abuse irrespective of who carries it out, but even at the top level "we" still can not say the words. I imagine that if the Enquiry ever actually happens that the above words will appear more and more, however for some reason we cant say from the outset that "The Enquiry will be investigating Muslim Grooming Gangs".
I wrote to my MP to raise concerns about Rotherham and the like - I used the "M" word several times in relation to grooming young white girls, his response referred to the "grooming of young girls"
Many of the hits on the first list of yours relate to much older cases, which seems to bear that out. If those words on the second list don't return results this time next year (when many related cases are resolved) then it'd definitely be a major concern.
del mar said:
Will these be treat the same as your traditional white pedo ?
Will other Muslim prisoners consider them nonces, or would they believe that they have done nothing wrong ?
Australian Imam said
"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?
"The uncovered meat is the problem."
To which I would reply if you bring Medieval, 3rd attitudes into the 21st century 1st world, who is at fault for the culture clash?Will other Muslim prisoners consider them nonces, or would they believe that they have done nothing wrong ?
Australian Imam said
"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?
"The uncovered meat is the problem."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2025632/kurdish-migr...
The Sun also has the story - I thought Kurds were the good guys ?
The Sun also has the story - I thought Kurds were the good guys ?
freakybacon said:
dont worry im sure its isolatedandymc said:
dont worry im sure its isolated
This was on the local radio news during my drive home, probably a 60 second piece outlining the lengths of conviction, bit of backstory and a few quotes from the police.There was no mention of the names or ethnicity of the men involved, I'm assuming it was judged not to be relevant to the case.
I have written to both my MP and the Abuse inquiry website I made reference to above.
I asked my MP what they were doing about the increased number of Muslim grooming gangs.
I received a response from Sahara Newton MP for Safeguarding the Vulnerable, giving the usual waffle about;
"Race age and gender are irrelevant", in the instances on this thread I would say they most certainly are, but granted all grooming needs to be addressed.
She was unable to use the "M" word.
I also raised the same points as per my post above to the abuse site as to why they can say Catholic and Priest etc, but not the "M" word.
I have not yet had a response, i will post when i get it.
I asked my MP what they were doing about the increased number of Muslim grooming gangs.
I received a response from Sahara Newton MP for Safeguarding the Vulnerable, giving the usual waffle about;
"Race age and gender are irrelevant", in the instances on this thread I would say they most certainly are, but granted all grooming needs to be addressed.
She was unable to use the "M" word.
I also raised the same points as per my post above to the abuse site as to why they can say Catholic and Priest etc, but not the "M" word.
I have not yet had a response, i will post when i get it.
del mar said:
I have written to both my MP and the Abuse inquiry website I made reference to above.
I asked my MP what they were doing about the increased number of Muslim grooming gangs.
I received a response from Sahara Newton MP for Safeguarding the Vulnerable, giving the usual waffle about;
"Race age and gender are irrelevant", in the instances on this thread I would say they most certainly are, but granted all grooming needs to be addressed.
She was unable to use the "M" word.
I also raised the same points as per my post above to the abuse site as to why they can say Catholic and Priest etc, but not the "M" word.
I have not yet had a response, i will post when i get it.
On the off chance it takes a while for you to get a response may I wish you a very Merry ChristmasI asked my MP what they were doing about the increased number of Muslim grooming gangs.
I received a response from Sahara Newton MP for Safeguarding the Vulnerable, giving the usual waffle about;
"Race age and gender are irrelevant", in the instances on this thread I would say they most certainly are, but granted all grooming needs to be addressed.
She was unable to use the "M" word.
I also raised the same points as per my post above to the abuse site as to why they can say Catholic and Priest etc, but not the "M" word.
I have not yet had a response, i will post when i get it.
freakybacon said:
Good riddance to the ball bags. Let's hope they enjoy the customary experience of kiddie fiddlers inside.Just popped up as breaking news on the BBC site - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wale...
rscott said:
Just popped up as breaking news on the BBC site - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wale...
That's a big scalp and sends out a clear message - no one is going to evade justice. He can rot with the rest of them.rscott said:
Just popped up as breaking news on the BBC site - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wale...
well that'll cheer you up, they're not Pakistani Muslims for onceandymc said:
rscott said:
Just popped up as breaking news on the BBC site - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wale...
well that'll cheer you up, they're not Pakistani Muslims for oncerscott said:
andymc said:
rscott said:
Just popped up as breaking news on the BBC site - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wale...
well that'll cheer you up, they're not Pakistani Muslims for oncerscott said:
Just popped up as breaking news on the BBC site - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wale...
Doesn't seem to have been part of a gang, does he?SKP555 said:
rscott said:
Just popped up as breaking news on the BBC site - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wale...
Doesn't seem to have been part of a gang, does he?edited to add: seems to be called a "ring" in these circumstances rather than a gang.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 4th November 20:09
SKP555 said:
rscott said:
Just popped up as breaking news on the BBC site - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wale...
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