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Digga said:
Smiler. said:
There was another programme on R4 a week or so ago which recalled the murder of that Muslim shopkeeper by another Muslim (for being the wrong type...
I don't know precisely why, but that story still upsets me. I guess it's because the shopkeeper appears to have been such a decent, bloke, well liked in his (diverse) community and the thug that killed him was such a vile and worthless human incarnation of dogma.Digga said:
Smiler. said:
There was another programme on R4 a week or so ago which recalled the murder of that Muslim shopkeeper by another Muslim (for being the wrong type...
I don't know precisely why, but that story still upsets me. I guess it's because the shopkeeper appears to have been such a decent, bloke, well liked in his (diverse) community and the thug that killed him was such a vile and worthless human incarnation of dogma.As mentioned before to get a passport in Pakistan you have to sign a declaration condemning the Ahmadi and their beliefs, do you think these people just leav all their odd beliefs and opinions at passport control when they arrive ?
carinaman said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08hm9w4
In the last 15 minutes of that BBC radio programme lastnight a politician in Holland dared to mention the offences in Rotherham and the ethinicity of the offenders.
The Muslims grooming issue was identified in Holland years before us, their more relaxed attitude to Prostitution made the "pimping" easier. Look up Dutch Loverboys.In the last 15 minutes of that BBC radio programme lastnight a politician in Holland dared to mention the offences in Rotherham and the ethinicity of the offenders.
Our issues was deemed to be Pakistani men, which was then reduced further to a specific region ! ( although wxpanded again as most muslims groups were involved)
Holland does not have the same historic ties to Pakistan as we do so how on earth do they suffer the same issues With Moroccans ......
Edited by del mar on Wednesday 15th March 10:14
freakybacon said:
Not quite. The first name was a surprise; "Singh" not normally a Muslim name, but then he may well have converted on marriage.Also "Everton La Bastide". Talk about giving a dog a bad name.
Digga said:
freakybacon said:
Not quite. The first name was a surprise; "Singh" not normally a Muslim name, but then he may well have converted on marriage.Also "Everton La Bastide". Talk about giving a dog a bad name.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/court-escape-...
freakybacon said:
Just because many of them named themselves after an Islamic, Jew hating, misogynistic, barbaric, paedophile, this doesn't have anything to do with Islamic culture. It's just that Muslims are more susceptible to dangerous mental health problems than the rest of us."Police investigate 180 new child sex cases in 'grooming capital of UK' as fears grow of another Rochdale
The area takes in the small mill town of Keighley - described as the nation’s ‘capital’ of child grooming and the crimes involve 165 suspects and more than 100 victims"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/west-yorkshir...
The area takes in the small mill town of Keighley - described as the nation’s ‘capital’ of child grooming and the crimes involve 165 suspects and more than 100 victims"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/west-yorkshir...
Unfortunately, my opinion is that the more rocks the authorities look under - and I do believe they are, but as I've said before and this latest story proves, many investigations are ongoing - the more they will find. Abuse, drugs and many other criminal or, in some cases terrorist activities have been going on unhindered. In a civilised nation,my his is a disgrace and a real danger.
Digga said:
Unfortunately, my opinion is that the more rocks the authorities look under - and I do believe they are, but as I've said before and this latest story proves, many investigations are ongoing - the more they will find. Abuse, drugs and many other criminal or, in some cases terrorist activities have been going on unhindered. In a civilised nation,my his is a disgrace and a real danger.
Dr Bernardo's said years ago on tv interview this was happening in every town and city ran from take a ways and taxi firms.It is interesting that former chief crown prosecutor Nazir Afzal, who convicted the Rochdale gang, has resigned this week as chief exec of the Association of Police and Crime Commissioners because they attempted to ban him speaking out against Muslim community leaders' in the aftermath of the Manchester attack.
Mr Afazl feels that Muslim leaders are often playing the victim card, rather than address issues within their community and he was particularly critical of the Muslim Council for having not even discussed the issue of radicalisation at their AGM. If they're not bothered about radicalisation, what hope for innocent abuse victims?
Mr Afazl feels that Muslim leaders are often playing the victim card, rather than address issues within their community and he was particularly critical of the Muslim Council for having not even discussed the issue of radicalisation at their AGM. If they're not bothered about radicalisation, what hope for innocent abuse victims?
andymc said:
What is wrong with Pakistani men? Other Asian groups don't have this issue
Have a listen to this: BBC R4 - Beyond BeliefEdited by andymc on Saturday 3rd June 12:17
It's the episode I refer to in my post above (mistakenly as Assignment).
There doesn't seem to be much overt interest in tackling/discussing the obvious issues manifesting in the UK.
I guess that a lot of people could say with justification "told you so" & that would be politically unacceptable to certain quarters.
For clarification, the same applies to the indigenous feckless scroungers whose behaviour is just that little bit less evil that the aforementioned.
Those in positions of authority who are politically driven need outing & their failed policies exposed.
Digga said:
It is interesting that former chief crown prosecutor Nazir Afzal, who convicted the Rochdale gang, has resigned this week as chief exec of the Association of Police and Crime Commissioners because they attempted to ban him speaking out against Muslim community leaders' in the aftermath of the Manchester attack.
Mr Afazl feels that Muslim leaders are often playing the victim card, rather than address issues within their community and he was particularly critical of the Muslim Council for having not even discussed the issue of radicalisation at their AGM. If they're not bothered about radicalisation, what hope for innocent abuse victims?
I have just read that article - excellent, but is it really new ? Muslims playing the victim card to get a little bit more / acceptance ? Some including the MCB are actively working against all the anti radicalisation strategy, not because they understand what it does but portraying themselves as victims is easy / more profitable.Mr Afazl feels that Muslim leaders are often playing the victim card, rather than address issues within their community and he was particularly critical of the Muslim Council for having not even discussed the issue of radicalisation at their AGM. If they're not bothered about radicalisation, what hope for innocent abuse victims?
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