another abuse gang
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DMN said:
Disgraceful. But I think this thread is about sexual abuse gangs. I suspect there will be numerous gangs who exploit people, sexually and economically, all over Britain, and that might be the next area that we start hearing lots more about.
Were they raping white women?
It's a different topic, another low life sub culture abusing the main culture. Another group of deviants I'd like to send to the middle of australia.
Back on topic, is it a
or muslim issue that we face? To me it seems more of a Pakistani issue but islam hasn't helped one bit. They think it's their right to abuse white girls.
It's a different topic, another low life sub culture abusing the main culture. Another group of deviants I'd like to send to the middle of australia.
Back on topic, is it a
or muslim issue that we face? To me it seems more of a Pakistani issue but islam hasn't helped one bit. They think it's their right to abuse white girls. Boosted LS1 said:
Were they raping white women?
It's a different topic, another low life sub culture abusing the main culture. Another group of deviants I'd like to send to the middle of australia.
Back on topic, is it a or muslim issue that we face? To me it seems more of a Pakistani issue but islam hasn't helped one bit. They think it's their right to abuse white girls.
Top bombing.It's a different topic, another low life sub culture abusing the main culture. Another group of deviants I'd like to send to the middle of australia.
Back on topic, is it a
or muslim issue that we face? To me it seems more of a Pakistani issue but islam hasn't helped one bit. They think it's their right to abuse white girls. Boosted LS1 said:
Were they raping white women?
It's a different topic, another low life sub culture abusing the main culture. Another group of deviants I'd like to send to the middle of australia.
Back on topic, is it a or muslim issue that we face? To me it seems more of a Pakistani issue but islam hasn't helped one bit. They think it's their right to abuse white girls.
What a wIt's a different topic, another low life sub culture abusing the main culture. Another group of deviants I'd like to send to the middle of australia.
Back on topic, is it a
or muslim issue that we face? To me it seems more of a Pakistani issue but islam hasn't helped one bit. They think it's their right to abuse white girls. ker. 
DMN said:
Another abuse gang caught:
https://www.grauniad.com/uk-news/2017/aug/11/uk-fa...
Oh look! It's Jesus. He's on a tricycle! I think he's juggling squirrels!https://www.grauniad.com/uk-news/2017/aug/11/uk-fa...
Alpinestars said:
del mar said:
Just or principally Pakistani makes no differenve, just as everything that is wrong in Islam is Saudi arabias fault. Grooming is a Pakistani problem.
The Indian sub continent argument is weaker than the fgm one. It is an Indian sub continent cultural issue expect when it occurs outside India when it is mainly a muslim one.
Where are the Sikh and Hindu grooming gangs ? The Sikh community raised concerns in Rotherham years ago presumably as they had seen it happen in India ?
If we were Dutch we would be blaming Moroccan immigrants, which is not in the Indian sub continent, neither are all the other countries mentioned in this thread.
But rather than say anything bad about Islam we will go back to the particular village in Kashmir where these people originated from.
Took me a while to understand your points. Better English please. The Indian sub continent argument is weaker than the fgm one. It is an Indian sub continent cultural issue expect when it occurs outside India when it is mainly a muslim one.
Where are the Sikh and Hindu grooming gangs ? The Sikh community raised concerns in Rotherham years ago presumably as they had seen it happen in India ?
If we were Dutch we would be blaming Moroccan immigrants, which is not in the Indian sub continent, neither are all the other countries mentioned in this thread.
But rather than say anything bad about Islam we will go back to the particular village in Kashmir where these people originated from.
But if I follow, you think it's a Pakistani and perhaps Kashmiri problem in the UK, you accept it happens in the Indian sub continent, so by definition isn't a Muslim problem there, and you have no evidence it's a Muslim problem in the UK but you still want to play the Islam card?
And by the way, I'm not sure who you think is defending Islam, people are asking what evidence you have for the conflation.
Society is desperate to pin it on the Kashmiri village, so we can say it has nothing to so with Islam.
evidence.
I not sure what else you need, the gangs are almost entirely muslim, Sikh and Hindu gangs are non existent. All the nationalities involved are muslim countries, granted there are always one or two opportunists involved.
Holland has the same issues, yet don't have the same level of Indian sub continent migration. Their issue is Moroccans.
Whilst their religious texts might not specifically say rape young white girls, the picture they paint of them is so poor / worthless that the behaviour of some is hardly a surprise.
del mar said:
Alpinestars said:
del mar said:
Just or principally Pakistani makes no differenve, just as everything that is wrong in Islam is Saudi arabias fault. Grooming is a Pakistani problem.
The Indian sub continent argument is weaker than the fgm one. It is an Indian sub continent cultural issue expect when it occurs outside India when it is mainly a muslim one.
Where are the Sikh and Hindu grooming gangs ? The Sikh community raised concerns in Rotherham years ago presumably as they had seen it happen in India ?
If we were Dutch we would be blaming Moroccan immigrants, which is not in the Indian sub continent, neither are all the other countries mentioned in this thread.
But rather than say anything bad about Islam we will go back to the particular village in Kashmir where these people originated from.
Took me a while to understand your points. Better English please. The Indian sub continent argument is weaker than the fgm one. It is an Indian sub continent cultural issue expect when it occurs outside India when it is mainly a muslim one.
Where are the Sikh and Hindu grooming gangs ? The Sikh community raised concerns in Rotherham years ago presumably as they had seen it happen in India ?
If we were Dutch we would be blaming Moroccan immigrants, which is not in the Indian sub continent, neither are all the other countries mentioned in this thread.
But rather than say anything bad about Islam we will go back to the particular village in Kashmir where these people originated from.
But if I follow, you think it's a Pakistani and perhaps Kashmiri problem in the UK, you accept it happens in the Indian sub continent, so by definition isn't a Muslim problem there, and you have no evidence it's a Muslim problem in the UK but you still want to play the Islam card?
And by the way, I'm not sure who you think is defending Islam, people are asking what evidence you have for the conflation.
Society is desperate to pin it on the Kashmiri village, so we can say it has nothing to so with Islam.
evidence.
I not sure what else you need, the gangs are almost entirely muslim, Sikh and Hindu gangs are non existent. All the nationalities involved are muslim countries, granted there are always one or two opportunists involved.
Holland has the same issues, yet don't have the same level of Indian sub continent migration. Their issue is Moroccans.
Whilst their religious texts might not specifically say rape young white girls, the picture they paint of them is so poor / worthless that the behaviour of some is hardly a surprise.
Very young children are almost entirely the preserve of white male paedophilia, as is predators acting alone, as is the abuse of young boys. Ergo, it's something in the fact that our leaders in the past married very young girls, and had sex with young boys that makes Britains into paedophiles?
Let's have some hard evidence. I know what your opinion is and I'm sure you understand the difference between an opinion and a fact.
Muslim man speaks sense.:
Muslim communities need to tackle sexism and victim-blaming, the man who prosecuted a grooming gang has said.
Mr Afzal, who brought the case against the Rochdale gang in 2012, said: "Even now, people will say [the girls] asked for it. 'If I bought them a kebab what did they expect.'
"It is absolute nonsense but nonetheless some people do believe that.
"That is part of the problem, this sort of cultural silence. Community silence, which is not complicity, but when you are silent you allow people to get away with stuff.
"the conversation in Muslim communities and minority communities is as advanced" as in other groups in society
"The community is not making the strides it should be. Immediately after [the trial] there were all sorts of commitments, sermons in mosques and much more training and educational stuff, then the cameras went away and not a lot has happened since."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-4049...
In the same article - you will find another Muslim man does not:
"If you look at the core values of Islam you will find a woman has a very, very high status; a mother has more rights to a child than the father. (Female's can breed!! Go Islam!! )
He added: "The race and religion of [the men who were involved in grooming] was totally irrelevant. It is totally criminal activity. Nothing to do with race, creed or culture.
Muslim communities need to tackle sexism and victim-blaming, the man who prosecuted a grooming gang has said.
Mr Afzal, who brought the case against the Rochdale gang in 2012, said: "Even now, people will say [the girls] asked for it. 'If I bought them a kebab what did they expect.'
"It is absolute nonsense but nonetheless some people do believe that.
"That is part of the problem, this sort of cultural silence. Community silence, which is not complicity, but when you are silent you allow people to get away with stuff.
"the conversation in Muslim communities and minority communities is as advanced" as in other groups in society
"The community is not making the strides it should be. Immediately after [the trial] there were all sorts of commitments, sermons in mosques and much more training and educational stuff, then the cameras went away and not a lot has happened since."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-4049...
In the same article - you will find another Muslim man does not:
"If you look at the core values of Islam you will find a woman has a very, very high status; a mother has more rights to a child than the father. (Female's can breed!! Go Islam!! )
He added: "The race and religion of [the men who were involved in grooming] was totally irrelevant. It is totally criminal activity. Nothing to do with race, creed or culture.
A good article by former equal rights chief Trevor Phillips
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/839905/Rotherham-...
Despite it being the Grauniad - another good article.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/31/mu...
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/839905/Rotherham-...
Despite it being the Grauniad - another good article.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/31/mu...
TonyToniTone said:
Boosted LS1 said:
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