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[MX7]

Transmat, I think you are missing the point of this thread. It's about gangs grooming young girls, not sex offenders in general.

Have a read of this. I think the problem has been widely acknowledged.

[Transmat]

MX7 said:

Transmat, I think you are missing the point of this thread. It's about gangs grooming young girls, not sex offenders in general.

Have a read of this. I think the problem has been widely acknowledged.

I haven't missed the point at all

http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Features/Pae...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21550541

http://martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/scotnews09/090508-...

http://content.met.police.uk/News/Members-of-a-pae...

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/8160109.Bour...

http://www.theweek.co.uk/crime/43816/portsmouth-co...

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/01/10/uk-britai...

..etc.

Is anyone really trying to actually say there are no white grooming gangs in this country?

[andymadmak]

iphonedyou said:

Agreed. Andy's treatment on that thread was horrific. But believe me, while a few regular posters may have denigrated you- it's easy and cool to do so - many of us agreed with you.

Well, those determined to brand with the R word have today stepped things up a fair bit. I was called on my mobile just after 8.00am by an individual who refused to give his name, but who wanted to tell me I was a racist who spent all my time on Pistonheads attacking Muslims. He threatened to tell the Police and tell anybody involved in with my business that they were dealing with a dangerous racist ( his words)

So, 07500 705869 I just want you to know that your little abusive call will have cost you more than you imagined - I am on holiday in Italy!

[Skinley]

Transmat said:

Is anyone really trying to actually say there are no white grooming gangs in this country?

No, FFS.

[Skinley]

andymadmak said:

Well, those determined to brand with the R word have today stepped things up a fair bit. I was called on my mobile just after 8.00am by an individual who refused to give his name, but who wanted to tell me I was a racist who spent all my time on Pistonheads attacking Muslims. He threatened to tell the Police and tell anybody involved in with my business that they were dealing with a dangerous racist ( his words)

So, 07500 705869 I just want you to know that your little abusive call will have cost you more than you imagined - I am on holiday in Italy!

How pathetic, report the tt to the police.

[jshell]

Transmat said:

Is anyone really trying to actually say there are no white grooming gangs in this country?

Of course not, and according to your statistics there should be more than 10 times the number of white grooming gangs than muslim gangs. Are there?

Your quoted statistics do not differentiate types of sexual criminality. I would suggest that there is a higher proportion of sexual assault & date rape offences within the white community - particularly given that demographics propensity for clubbing, binge drinking, drug taking and pub culture which is less prevalent in the muslim community for obvious reasons. If true would that leave a higher proportion of violent muslim grooming gangs beating, raping and trafficking children?

Does anyone feel that my asking the above makes me a racist, as I'd genuinely like to know if anyone takes it that way...

[pad58]

Skinley said:

andymadmak said:

Well, those determined to brand with the R word have today stepped things up a fair bit. I was called on my mobile just after 8.00am by an individual who refused to give his name, but who wanted to tell me I was a racist who spent all my time on Pistonheads attacking Muslims. He threatened to tell the Police and tell anybody involved in with my business that they were dealing with a dangerous racist ( his words)

So, 07500 705869 I just want you to know that your little abusive call will have cost you more than you imagined - I am on holiday in Italy!

How pathetic, report the tt to the police.

A bit hard when holidaying in Italy I would have thought.

[Skinley]

pad58 said:

A bit hard when holidaying in Italy I would have thought.

Yes it's absolutely impossible to contact the British police from Italy.

[McWigglebum4th]

andymadmak said:

So, 07500 705869 I just want you to know that your little abusive call will have cost you more than you imagined - I am on holiday in Italy!

I hate to break this to you

But

You pay to recieve calls when out of the country

[anonymous-user]

McWigglebum4th said:

andymadmak said:

So, 07500 705869 I just want you to know that your little abusive call will have cost you more than you imagined - I am on holiday in Italy!

I hate to break this to you

But

You pay to recieve calls when out of the country

[andymadmak]

el stovey said:

McWigglebum4th said:

andymadmak said:

So, 07500 705869 I just want you to know that your little abusive call will have cost you more than you imagined - I am on holiday in Italy!

I hate to break this to you

But

You pay to recieve calls when out of the country

Awwww bugger!

[The Don of Croy]

jshell said:

The majority of paedos in a majority white society will very likely be white. They are also more likely to be caught as there will be no hiding within a tight-knit community, in most cases.

I wondered about the tight community point.

I think 'they' got away with it precisely because they are from a tight community group, (as are catholic priests) and it's the mingling of these groups that gives them access to more 'customers' (paedophile rapists). How they develop these common bonds isn't clear from the accounts given online.

The fact they operated for so long - more than a year for the Oxford lot, others went on for seven to ten years apparently - and travelled widely is, frankly, astonishing.

And very worrying.

[BliarOut]

andymadmak said:

iphonedyou said:

Agreed. Andy's treatment on that thread was horrific. But believe me, while a few regular posters may have denigrated you- it's easy and cool to do so - many of us agreed with you.

Well, those determined to brand with the R word have today stepped things up a fair bit. I was called on my mobile just after 8.00am by an individual who refused to give his name, but who wanted to tell me I was a racist who spent all my time on Pistonheads attacking Muslims. He threatened to tell the Police and tell anybody involved in with my business that they were dealing with a dangerous racist ( his words)

So, 07500 705869 I just want you to know that your little abusive call will have cost you more than you imagined - I am on holiday in Italy!

So he's blackmailing you? Nice...

[Mermaid]

M159V8 said:

Transmat said:

Can you show me a link that states there are no non-Muslim child sex gangs? I didn't think so.

Mermaid said:

Not Asian, mainly Muslim community.

As I've said before, these criminals were brought together by their ethnic similarities, NOT by their religious similarities. Had they cared to actually follow the religion they claim to be a part of they wouldn't have committed such atrocities. Show me where Islam commands all Muslims to rape, traffic and groom young girls.

Completely a cultural issue, and I consider 20 men out of 2 million a minority (not to detract from the seriousness of the issue in any way)

Oxford Police interviewing 50 more - this is not just restricted to Oxford, so you work out how many. Would 1000 still be considered a minority? And these are the "groomers" - think how many enjoyed the fruits of this exercise - 100's or more?

Predominantly Pakistani men, and AFAIK majority are Muslim. However, I agree it is not religion that brings about this action (though women are not treated as equals). But we do not hear about Hindu Pakistani gangs, or Indian Muslim gangs in this country - happy to be proved wrong.

Maybe if Malala spoke against this, the men will listen

[Mermaid]

andymadmak said:

Well, those determined to brand with the R word have today stepped things up a fair bit. I was called on my mobile just after 8.00am by an individual who refused to give his name, but who wanted to tell me I was a racist who spent all my time on Pistonheads attacking Muslims. He threatened to tell the Police and tell anybody involved in with my business that they were dealing with a dangerous racist ( his words)

So, 07500 705869 I just want you to know that your little abusive call will have cost you more than you imagined - I am on holiday in Italy!

Sorry to hear this Andy

Shocking - another attempt to get this thread closed. A Police matter for sure.

[rich1231]

Sky news showing some guys from birmingham. All without fail try and blame liberal western society.

[jas xjr]

Mermaid said:

andymadmak said:

Well, those determined to brand with the R word have today stepped things up a fair bit. I was called on my mobile just after 8.00am by an individual who refused to give his name, but who wanted to tell me I was a racist who spent all my time on Pistonheads attacking Muslims. He threatened to tell the Police and tell anybody involved in with my business that they were dealing with a dangerous racist ( his words)

So, 07500 705869 I just want you to know that your little abusive call will have cost you more than you imagined - I am on holiday in Italy!

Sorry to hear this Andy

Shocking - another attempt to get this thread closed. A Police matter for sure.

hope you get this sorted . that is a crazy situation

[Digga]

M159V8 said:

As I've said before, these criminals were brought together by their ethnic similarities,

This does, generally, appear to be the case.

It is unfortunate that some time back, when police first suspected this may be the issue, contemporary British cultural issues (the mani for multi-culturalism) which must share some of the blame here, prevented them from 'profiling' offenders.

[Mermaid]

Muslims in 500 mosques hearing Imams reading sermons against grooming. About time too, but I reckon the long prison sentences will have greater impact.

[Pesty]

Mermaid said:

Muslims in 500 mosques hearing Imams reading sermons against grooming. About time too, but I reckon the long prison sentences will have greater impact.

They have been asked to which is different to actually doing but I'm sure they all will. Great move forward.

Perhaps these imams will now get phone calls as per andymac

rich1231 said:

Sky news showing some guys from birmingham. All without fail try and blame liberal western society.

Yes of course they are brought up and taught Islam is the only way and perfect anything else is against god and causes problems

When you know that is the way some of them think its understandable that they believe it Wouldn't happen if we had sharia and lived by gods law.
As I was constantly told when talking with these young men I don't think like a Muslim.

Edited by Pesty on Friday 28th June 13:47