another abuse gang
Discussion
bobdole said:
Maybe research a bit more about frat parties. Abuse of women and girls is not specific to one race or religion or colour of people. My point is its all bad. So why in this thread is all the snide remarks of 'what a surprise' cause it was Asian men ?
Frat party girls will be girls who wanted to be there. They'll also be 18+. Not f
king 12. To make any comparison totally misses the point surely?MPs commend Times reporter for exposing child grooming gangs
Published at 12:01AM, December 5 2012
Most of the men investigated over child sex grooming by a police force in the past decade were from an Asian background, MPs were told yesterday.
Officers in South Yorkshire carried out 27 inquiries into suspected “grooming” crimes, which led to the arrest of 65 suspects. The majority of those held were described as “Asian or Pakistani British”, according to a submission to MPs by David Crompton, Chief Constable of the force.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/articl...
Published at 12:01AM, December 5 2012
Most of the men investigated over child sex grooming by a police force in the past decade were from an Asian background, MPs were told yesterday.
Officers in South Yorkshire carried out 27 inquiries into suspected “grooming” crimes, which led to the arrest of 65 suspects. The majority of those held were described as “Asian or Pakistani British”, according to a submission to MPs by David Crompton, Chief Constable of the force.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/articl...
The EDL, National front and the NW Infidels were out in force in Blackburn today.
walking with the kids they gave me a leaflet whcih was briefly looked at and then i realised who these guys were - looking around the police presence was there too.
this was the leaflet
interesting tact of having some white faces/paedo's rather than just asian.
walking with the kids they gave me a leaflet whcih was briefly looked at and then i realised who these guys were - looking around the police presence was there too.
this was the leaflet
interesting tact of having some white faces/paedo's rather than just asian.
mrmr96 said:
bobdole said:
Maybe research a bit more about frat parties. Abuse of women and girls is not specific to one race or religion or colour of people. My point is its all bad. So why in this thread is all the snide remarks of 'what a surprise' cause it was Asian men ?
Frat party girls will be girls who wanted to be there. They'll also be 18+. Not fking 12. To make any comparison totally misses the point surely?nigel_bytes said:
MPs commend Times reporter for exposing child grooming gangs
Published at 12:01AM, December 5 2012
Most of the men investigated over child sex grooming by a police force in the past decade were from an Asian background, MPs were told yesterday.
Officers in South Yorkshire carried out 27 inquiries into suspected “grooming” crimes, which led to the arrest of 65 suspects. The majority of those held were described as “Asian or Pakistani British”, according to a submission to MPs by David Crompton, Chief Constable of the force.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/articl...
Fine, but why do some people like to suggest it worse? Surely a peado is a peado and need a good kicking regardless?Published at 12:01AM, December 5 2012
Most of the men investigated over child sex grooming by a police force in the past decade were from an Asian background, MPs were told yesterday.
Officers in South Yorkshire carried out 27 inquiries into suspected “grooming” crimes, which led to the arrest of 65 suspects. The majority of those held were described as “Asian or Pakistani British”, according to a submission to MPs by David Crompton, Chief Constable of the force.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/articl...
Its i would suggest far harder to stop men being abusers and peado's than it is to look after our young people in care and try to make sure that they at least aren't hanging around streets and taxi ranks and take away shops in the early hours aged 14 etc etc.
Who really cared for these kids until they found out Asians were abusing them?
Lets not forget Rochdale police and social services suggested some of these girls were prostitutes aged 14 and under FFS!
Maybe we start respected those less fortunate and sort out our care system and these monsters would have less chance of abusing the white children with no homes no families and no future.
CaptainSlow said:
Shall I hold the carpet up whilst you sweep?
Huh?So children get abused all around the UK daily, some by family or friends of family (most in fact), some by teachers, care workers, etc etc.
Why should it matter what race or colour does the abusing?
Why more outrage that its Asian men?!
Can some just answer that simple question....why is it worse if an Asian man abuses a white girl?
bobdole said:
Can some just answer that simple question....why is it worse if an Asian man abuses a white girl?
It isn't and no one has said it is. You seem to have an agenda to introduce something that isn't there.There does seem to be trends forming though from both this part of society and others such as various Christian organisations. It would be foolish to not recognise this and try to understand why it is happening.
CaptainSlow said:
bobdole said:
Can some just answer that simple question....why is it worse if an Asian man abuses a white girl?
It isn't and no one has said it is. You seem to have an agenda to introduce something that isn't there.There does seem to be trends forming though from both this part of society and others such as various Christian organisations. It would be foolish to not recognise this and try to understand why it is happening.
Then theres groups of men who work at night in taxi ranks and take a ways etc where there's young futurless girls roaming the streets after midnight board hungry cold hopeless..... the link is that many of those males are Asian, but the answer is to start caring more as a society about this group of young girls firstly and not just have outrage that Asian men have the audacity to abuse 'our' white girls.
Abuse is everywhere, yet suddenly these stories are creating much much more outrage....again, why?
Tuesday 20th November
More keen to guess at the heritage of the abusers than actually shocked at the terrible terrible story...says alot.
CaptainSlow said:
mat777 said:
Are they of a similar heritage to the other recent gang?
Not been released yet but based on the area and other similar recent cases then we can all hazard a guess. I'm more surprised about the ages of the gang. 
Are you trolling bobdole? Serious question.
This thread was not targetted at any specific race. The question asked was how on earth a group of blokes ( of any race) can decide to set up an abuse gang. Who asks who what in order to get started? It beggars belief that someone says " hey guys, great idea i have just had, lets groom and rape some 12 year olds, i know just where to find some vulnerable ones".
It has been pointed out that there are paedos of all races. We know that. All of them are bad. What has been observed however is that some of these bds have formed groups. And it has been further observed that a disproportionally large number of these groups are comprised almost entirely of Asian men. That does not make their actions better or worse than a white group, or a black group or any other group or individual. What people are trying to nderstand as this thread has developed is why most of the groups are Asian, when Asians are a small minority of the population.
But you knew that.
This thread was not targetted at any specific race. The question asked was how on earth a group of blokes ( of any race) can decide to set up an abuse gang. Who asks who what in order to get started? It beggars belief that someone says " hey guys, great idea i have just had, lets groom and rape some 12 year olds, i know just where to find some vulnerable ones".
It has been pointed out that there are paedos of all races. We know that. All of them are bad. What has been observed however is that some of these b
ds have formed groups. And it has been further observed that a disproportionally large number of these groups are comprised almost entirely of Asian men. That does not make their actions better or worse than a white group, or a black group or any other group or individual. What people are trying to nderstand as this thread has developed is why most of the groups are Asian, when Asians are a small minority of the population. But you knew that.
CaptainSlow said:
Not really, just another example of one of the trends forming. If you think it isn't an important part of stopping these crimes happening then I think that is foolish.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this. Have a good day.
So you ban Asian men from being taxi drivers? or running take a ways? Or just get rid of them full stop?We'll have to agree to disagree on this. Have a good day.
What ideas do you have to stop abuse of children then?
How do you stop them getting abused?
Well sadly the easiest way is to stop the ease at which they can get to children, there will ALWAYS be rapists, peado's, you cant stop that, what you need to do is in the case where girls get abused cause they hang around late night taxi ranks and shops aged 16 and under is stop them being there in the first place!
Would any parent want their child of 12-13-14 hanging around these places at any time of day let alone night early morning?
So why should kids in 'care' be any different?
bobdole said:
But why does it bother people more if they were Asian? of course there's been and is white British groups of men abusing girls and boys, some Catholic priests for one as an easy answer. But I feel it's like people have more outrage that its Asian mean messing with white girls ... that's one reason I can fathom.. help me out here. Rxplain why it's I'd worse depending on the peados race and colour ?
I'll help you out mate; it's not worse depending on race or colour. Up hear in East Lancashire, the majority of us get rather angry about gangs of blokes who conspire to have sex with young (often underage)and vulnerable girls. If I hear about a gang of local white guys at it then I promise to be equally angry. But thanks for joining PH, it was running low on self righteous, PC preachers.
andymadmak said:
Are you trolling bobdole? Serious question.
This thread was not targetted at any specific race. The question asked was how on earth a group of blokes ( of any race) can decide to set up an abuse gang. Who asks who what in order to get started? It beggars belief that someone says " hey guys, great idea i have just had, lets groom and rape some 12 year olds, i know just where to find some vulnerable ones".
It has been pointed out that there are paedos of all races. We know that. All of them are bad. What has been observed however is that some of these bds have formed groups. And it has been further observed that a disproportionally large number of these groups are comprised almost entirely of Asian men. That does not make their actions better or worse than a white group, or a black group or any other group or individual. What people are trying to nderstand as this thread has developed is why most of the groups are Asian, when Asians are a small minority of the population.
But you knew that.
Lol!!!! what answer do expect to get from:This thread was not targetted at any specific race. The question asked was how on earth a group of blokes ( of any race) can decide to set up an abuse gang. Who asks who what in order to get started? It beggars belief that someone says " hey guys, great idea i have just had, lets groom and rape some 12 year olds, i know just where to find some vulnerable ones".
It has been pointed out that there are paedos of all races. We know that. All of them are bad. What has been observed however is that some of these b
ds have formed groups. And it has been further observed that a disproportionally large number of these groups are comprised almost entirely of Asian men. That does not make their actions better or worse than a white group, or a black group or any other group or individual. What people are trying to nderstand as this thread has developed is why most of the groups are Asian, when Asians are a small minority of the population. But you knew that.
"The question asked was how on earth a group of blokes ( of any race) can decide to set up an abuse gang. Who asks who what in order to get started? It beggars belief that someone says " hey guys, great idea i have just had, lets groom and rape some 12 year olds, i know just where to find some vulnerable ones". "
Do you think if we discuss that long enough we will get some idea of why? Or maybe someone will admit that they are in such a gang?
Get real. The salacious angle that the papers and knuckle dragger's want to focus on is "Gangs of Asian men abuse white girls"
No answers as to how to stop it happening in first place, the real link is young girls not cared for properly, let down by families, let down by police let down by social services.
To help kids not to get run over by a car they made a zebra crossing....they didnt ban cars.
The danger is there, what we need to do is build that zebra crossing for those young girls in care....THAT is what social services and the police are there for! But in these cases they weren't.
7mike said:
bobdole said:
But why does it bother people more if they were Asian? of course there's been and is white British groups of men abusing girls and boys, some Catholic priests for one as an easy answer. But I feel it's like people have more outrage that its Asian mean messing with white girls ... that's one reason I can fathom.. help me out here. Rxplain why it's I'd worse depending on the peados race and colour ?
I'll help you out mate; it's not worse depending on race or colour. Up hear in East Lancashire, the majority of us get rather angry about gangs of blokes who conspire to have sex with young (often underage)and vulnerable girls. If I hear about a gang of local white guys at it then I promise to be equally angry. But thanks for joining PH, it was running low on self righteous, PC preachers.
bobdole said:
CaptainSlow said:
Shall I hold the carpet up whilst you sweep?
Huh?So children get abused all around the UK daily, some by family or friends of family (most in fact), some by teachers, care workers, etc etc.
Why should it matter what race or colour does the abusing?
Why more outrage that its Asian men?!
Can some just answer that simple question....why is it worse if an Asian man abuses a white girl?
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