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smegmore

3,091 posts

176 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Trax said:
Was he not told to resign from his PCC role by Labour, and would be kicked out from the Labour Party if he didn't?

This man is as responsible as the rapists, he facilitated them, as well as many more council officials, including people in the Police. Unfortunately I doubt any of them will be held accountable, be sacked or lose pensions.
My bold.

Exactly, these individuals (I refuse to call them people) are as guilty as the perpetrators of these vile crimes, they refused to acknowledge the occurrence of these vile and obscene acts due to 'Political Correctness' and not wishing to offend the sensibilities of a certain demographic who were at the time, and still are, a significant influence on the Rotheram Council.

A disgrace and an indictment on the Labour philosophy of 'multi-culturalism' which meant an influx of third world village mentality Pakistanis being let loose in this country with their mysoginistic and primitive beliefs being their ethos for life in the UK.

Delete this post if you choose, moderators, it's the truth and well you know it.

TLandCruiser

2,788 posts

198 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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smegmore said:
My bold.

Exactly, these individuals (I refuse to call them people) are as guilty as the perpetrators of these vile crimes, they refused to acknowledge the occurrence of these vile and obscene acts due to 'Political Correctness' and not wishing to offend the sensibilities of a certain demographic who were at the time, and still are, a significant influence on the Rotheram Council.

A disgrace and an indictment on the Labour philosophy of 'multi-culturalism' which meant an influx of third world village mentality Pakistanis being let loose in this country with their mysoginistic and primitive beliefs being their ethos for life in the UK.

Delete this post if you choose, moderators, it's the truth and well you know it.
And this is exactly why we need an immigration policy like Australia or America! I don't care where you are from or what you beliefs are, however you must be able to speak English and you have to live by our laws and standards...and have a skill we need, if not...find somewhere else to live.

Mr Daytona

221 posts

116 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Can't disagree with the contention that certain employees in the Council/Police do need to either resign or be removed from their posts BUT I cannot agree that they are as accountable for the systematic rape, torture, humiliation and brutalisation as the Pakistani men who perpetrated it.

Clearly their were huge errors and seemingly a cover up (and for that Criminal proceedings do need to be initiated - particularly against those whose motives appear to relate to the colour of their skin) but it was solely those Pakistani men who carried this out.

As an aside and since it is now obvious to all that young white girls were specifically targeted, I do hope that in addition to being arrested, charged and eventually found guilty, that the Pakistani men concerned have their sentences increased due to it being an all too obvious hate crime. I won't hold my breath though.....

Twincharge

221 posts

178 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Mermaid said:
Does anyone know if any young Muslim girls involved -drugged/gang raped etc etc.
Possible, what I do know is that it is not just white girls that were targeted. Any young girl, including a Pakistani runaway is fair game to this scum.

The problem is that these perverted cowards with low self esteem, can hide easily within these large communities. I am certain that even the Imams of the local mosques do not know what goes on. They are so out of touch with the real world.

It does not surprise me that it is Pakistani men, I would hazard a guess and say some of these are cab drivers. It is a certain type, either one recently settled into the UK, or a young one, born in the UK, but living in the safety of a community where it is easy to hide.

You will not see the average British Pakistani, educated professional doing this sort of thing.

Hearing about this stuff makes my blood boil, it's time we stopped tolerating this kind of st. I would kill any man I catch doing this to a child.

irocfan

40,444 posts

190 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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TLandCruiser said:
And this is exactly why we need an immigration policy like Australia or America! I don't care where you are from or what you beliefs are, however you must be able to speak English and you have to live by our laws and standards...and have a skill we need, if not...find somewhere else to live.
but but but...


Foppo

2,344 posts

124 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Immigration politics won't change anything.Who are you going to keep out?People will always move from country to country that is the way of the world.

What I would do if anybody arrives her and commits a crime the first six months of arrival you go back.

We have to stop this so called political correctness attitude.The majority of the perpetratrors are of Pakistani origen in this child abuse case.

This cannot be tolerated these scumbags should be hung drawn and quartered.

If that is a racist comment so be it.

gpo746

3,397 posts

130 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Hooli said:
rollondeath said:
Asterix said:
Quick question from those in the know - What's Rotherham actually like?

Having read the news and threads like this one, I expect it to be an absolute sthole, doom & gloom, massive non-white population but from what I can find it seems quite prosperous with a relatively low Asian immigrant population, compared to the likes of Bradford etc...

I've not spent much time in that part of the world and certainly not for a long while.
Think of the 1800's and you're not far off. S**t hole.
The 1800s in Pakistan that is. I work there & it's often a game of spot the whitey.
Oh dear use of the word "whitey"
I used to comment on this type of thing but I would get shouted down and patronised by certain clever types.
Funnily enough some of the most vocal ones have not commented on this thread.

Dan_1981

17,391 posts

199 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Rotherham is a hell hole.

Town centre decimated and over run with gangs of Romanies, Slovaks and others, very intimidating place to go.

Majority of the town centre shops are closed - what remain are bookies, charity shops and Greggs.

Some pretty hideous areas out of the town centre.

Regular protest marches by the EDL.

Not a nice place anymore.

Digga

40,320 posts

283 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Twincharge said:
Mermaid said:
Does anyone know if any young Muslim girls involved -drugged/gang raped etc etc.
Possible...
Apparently so, and the poor sods are, if anything, even less likely to find sympathy with their family/carers than the white girls.

I think what I am beginning to consider about the broader issues - not only the abuse gangs, and the failings of social services, but the attitudes of the police, the people who were supposed to looking after children in care homes - is that there is a political culture and a distinct mindset with regard to political correctness. I really do being to wonder, who would most of these individuals vote for and how might that be part of the source of this?

andymadmak

Original Poster:

14,560 posts

270 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Digga said:
pparently so, and the poor sods are, if anything, even less likely to find sympathy with their family/carers than the white girls.

II really do begin to wonder, who would most of these individuals vote for and how might that be part of the source of this?
I think you already know the answers to those questions. We all do. Given that it's the same mob that consistently buggers up the public finances when they are in power and who seem to think that the way to make poor people rich is to make rich people poor, it amazes me that ANYONE votes for them.

scorp

8,783 posts

229 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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gpo746 said:
Oh dear use of the word "whitey"
I used to comment on this type of thing but I would get shouted down and patronised by certain clever types.
Funnily enough some of the most vocal ones have not commented on this thread.
Ironically it's treading on egg shells when mentioning someones race that brought on this situation to begin with.

magnum555

473 posts

159 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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anonymous said:
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White english men are also carrying out horrific abuse

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/crime/membe...

Two more members of a sick paedophile ring, which included a Northamptonshire scout leader, have been jailed for abusing victims at a remote farm.

John Connolly, aged 42, and Joanne Gale, aged 36, both from Warrington in Cheshire, were sentenced at Reading Crown Court today for their roles in the abuse gang, Scotland Yard said.

Connolly was given 20 years for raping a child under 13 and the possession and distribution of indecent images of children.

Gale received 14 years for aiding and abetting child rape and the same indecent images offences.

They were part of a gang who hosted depraved “paedo parties” at a remote farm in Wiltshire and then distributed indecent images of children.

Four men have already been jailed indefinitely for public protection for their role in the depraved paedophile ring, including Peter Malpas, from Moulton.

Malpas, aged 47, who is a former assistant county commissioner, was linked to members of a gang who held the sex parties, which also involved animals.

He was jailed in September last year after admitting to police how he had travelled to the Windsor area where he abused a nine-year-old girl in the back of a car.

When police raided his home last January he told officers: “Something terrible has happened, I am evil.”

Three other members were jailed last year. They were Simon Wyn-Davies, from Windsor, in Berkshire, retired farmer Nicholas Cordery, from Wiltshire, and IT trainer Anthony Flack, from Bristol.

Cordery owned the farm where some of the gang’s sex abuse was carried out.

Yesterday, another member of the same gang, Simon Christopher Collins, aged 58, from Chippenham, in Wiltshire, was jailed for seven-and-a-half years for arranging the commission of a child sex offence, aiding or abetting a woman to allow bestiality, making indecent images and possessing extreme pornography.

Speaking after today’s sentences, Detective Chief Inspector Noel McHugh said: “This has been a very complex investigation, covering several police force areas.

“Today’s convictions demonstrate the commitment of the Met’s paedophile unit to use all audacious and lawful tactics to capture the most dangerous sex offenders and protect the most vulnerable.

“These people were members of a paedophile ring. I believe that they have committed other offences.

“Anyone who believes they have been a victim is urged to contact police.”


magnum555

473 posts

159 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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White english abuse gangs holding "paedo parties"

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/crime/membe...

Two more members of a sick paedophile ring, which included a Northamptonshire scout leader, have been jailed for abusing victims at a remote farm.

John Connolly, aged 42, and Joanne Gale, aged 36, both from Warrington in Cheshire, were sentenced at Reading Crown Court today for their roles in the abuse gang, Scotland Yard said.

Connolly was given 20 years for raping a child under 13 and the possession and distribution of indecent images of children.

Gale received 14 years for aiding and abetting child rape and the same indecent images offences.

They were part of a gang who hosted depraved “paedo parties” at a remote farm in Wiltshire and then distributed indecent images of children.

Four men have already been jailed indefinitely for public protection for their role in the depraved paedophile ring, including Peter Malpas, from Moulton.

Malpas, aged 47, who is a former assistant county commissioner, was linked to members of a gang who held the sex parties, which also involved animals.

He was jailed in September last year after admitting to police how he had travelled to the Windsor area where he abused a nine-year-old girl in the back of a car.

When police raided his home last January he told officers: “Something terrible has happened, I am evil.”

Three other members were jailed last year. They were Simon Wyn-Davies, from Windsor, in Berkshire, retired farmer Nicholas Cordery, from Wiltshire, and IT trainer Anthony Flack, from Bristol.

Cordery owned the farm where some of the gang’s sex abuse was carried out.

Yesterday, another member of the same gang, Simon Christopher Collins, aged 58, from Chippenham, in Wiltshire, was jailed for seven-and-a-half years for arranging the commission of a child sex offence, aiding or abetting a woman to allow bestiality, making indecent images and possessing extreme pornography.

Speaking after today’s sentences, Detective Chief Inspector Noel McHugh said: “This has been a very complex investigation, covering several police force areas.

“Today’s convictions demonstrate the commitment of the Met’s paedophile unit to use all audacious and lawful tactics to capture the most dangerous sex offenders and protect the most vulnerable.

“These people were members of a paedophile ring. I believe that they have committed other offences.

“Anyone who believes they have been a victim is urged to contact police.”

magnum555

473 posts

159 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Another white english abuser:

A man who raped a vulnerable schoolgirl and abused three other young teenagers has been jailed for 15 years.

Lee Crutchley was found guilty of two counts of rape and two charges of assault by penetration on one vulnerable girl, as well as seven charges of indecent assault and one of buggery by a jury at Sheffield Crown Court yesterday.

Jailing him Recorder Brian Cox QC said Crutchley had shown ‘no remorse whatsoever’ towards his victims, who were all aged under 16 at the time of his abuse.
“Your offences reveal you are attracted to and are a danger to girls of age 13, 14, 15,” he said.
Mr Cox said one of the victims, who had a relationship with Crutchley when she was 14 and he was in his mid-20s, said his abuse had ‘ruined her life’.

He said Crutchley’s most serious offences were against his most recent victim in 2012, who he raped and abused when she was aged 12 or 13.

Mr Cox said: “You had by that time a history of abusing young girls. She was vulnerable and you believed you were safe to abuse her because she had those particular problems.”
Crutchley had been charged with 16 offences in total that were said to have occurred between November 1990 and June 2012.

He was cleared of two counts of sexual intercourse with a girl aged under 13 and a further two charges of indecent assault.

Prior to his trial, Crutchley, of Victoria Street, Dinnington, Rotherham, pleaded guilty to two counts of producing thousands of pounds worth of cannabis at his home.
Crutchley was also accused of sexually assaulting one girl’s mother 22 years previously but was acquitted of those charges.

Following the verdict, DC Dave Wilson, from South Yorkshire Police, said: “For more than 20 years, Lee Crutchley has preyed on schoolgirls taking advantage of their young age and their innocence. He is now in prison and that is where he rightly belongs.”

andymc

7,356 posts

207 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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magnum555 said:
White english abuse gangs holding "paedo parties"

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/crime/membe...

Two more members of a sick paedophile ring, which included a Northamptonshire scout leader, have been jailed for abusing victims at a remote farm.

John Connolly, aged 42, and Joanne Gale, aged 36, both from Warrington in Cheshire, were sentenced at Reading Crown Court today for their roles in the abuse gang, Scotland Yard said.

Connolly was given 20 years for raping a child under 13 and the possession and distribution of indecent images of children.

Gale received 14 years for aiding and abetting child rape and the same indecent images offences.

They were part of a gang who hosted depraved “paedo parties” at a remote farm in Wiltshire and then distributed indecent images of children.

Four men have already been jailed indefinitely for public protection for their role in the depraved paedophile ring, including Peter Malpas, from Moulton.

Malpas, aged 47, who is a former assistant county commissioner, was linked to members of a gang who held the sex parties, which also involved animals.

He was jailed in September last year after admitting to police how he had travelled to the Windsor area where he abused a nine-year-old girl in the back of a car.

When police raided his home last January he told officers: “Something terrible has happened, I am evil.”

Three other members were jailed last year. They were Simon Wyn-Davies, from Windsor, in Berkshire, retired farmer Nicholas Cordery, from Wiltshire, and IT trainer Anthony Flack, from Bristol.

Cordery owned the farm where some of the gang’s sex abuse was carried out.

Yesterday, another member of the same gang, Simon Christopher Collins, aged 58, from Chippenham, in Wiltshire, was jailed for seven-and-a-half years for arranging the commission of a child sex offence, aiding or abetting a woman to allow bestiality, making indecent images and possessing extreme pornography.

Speaking after today’s sentences, Detective Chief Inspector Noel McHugh said: “This has been a very complex investigation, covering several police force areas.

“Today’s convictions demonstrate the commitment of the Met’s paedophile unit to use all audacious and lawful tactics to capture the most dangerous sex offenders and protect the most vulnerable.

“These people were members of a paedophile ring. I believe that they have committed other offences.

“Anyone who believes they have been a victim is urged to contact police.”
No one is denying there are white criminals, it's the fact it is endemic in certain Pakistani areas

Alex

9,975 posts

284 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Most excruciating tweet ever?


MrCarPark

528 posts

141 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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anonymous said:
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hehe

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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irocfan said:
TLandCruiser said:
And this is exactly why we need an immigration policy like Australia or America! I don't care where you are from or what you beliefs are, however you must be able to speak English and you have to live by our laws and standards...and have a skill we need, if not...find somewhere else to live.
but but but...

Seems "our" standards aren't quite up to scratch given the chain of events

magnum555

473 posts

159 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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andymc said:
magnum555 said:
White english abuse gangs holding "paedo parties"

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/crime/membe...

Two more members of a sick paedophile ring, which included a Northamptonshire scout leader, have been jailed for abusing victims at a remote farm.

John Connolly, aged 42, and Joanne Gale, aged 36, both from Warrington in Cheshire, were sentenced at Reading Crown Court today for their roles in the abuse gang, Scotland Yard said.

Connolly was given 20 years for raping a child under 13 and the possession and distribution of indecent images of children.

Gale received 14 years for aiding and abetting child rape and the same indecent images offences.

They were part of a gang who hosted depraved “paedo parties” at a remote farm in Wiltshire and then distributed indecent images of children.

Four men have already been jailed indefinitely for public protection for their role in the depraved paedophile ring, including Peter Malpas, from Moulton.

Malpas, aged 47, who is a former assistant county commissioner, was linked to members of a gang who held the sex parties, which also involved animals.

He was jailed in September last year after admitting to police how he had travelled to the Windsor area where he abused a nine-year-old girl in the back of a car.

When police raided his home last January he told officers: “Something terrible has happened, I am evil.”

Three other members were jailed last year. They were Simon Wyn-Davies, from Windsor, in Berkshire, retired farmer Nicholas Cordery, from Wiltshire, and IT trainer Anthony Flack, from Bristol.

Cordery owned the farm where some of the gang’s sex abuse was carried out.

Yesterday, another member of the same gang, Simon Christopher Collins, aged 58, from Chippenham, in Wiltshire, was jailed for seven-and-a-half years for arranging the commission of a child sex offence, aiding or abetting a woman to allow bestiality, making indecent images and possessing extreme pornography.

Speaking after today’s sentences, Detective Chief Inspector Noel McHugh said: “This has been a very complex investigation, covering several police force areas.

“Today’s convictions demonstrate the commitment of the Met’s paedophile unit to use all audacious and lawful tactics to capture the most dangerous sex offenders and protect the most vulnerable.

“These people were members of a paedophile ring. I believe that they have committed other offences.

“Anyone who believes they have been a victim is urged to contact police.”
No one is denying there are white criminals, it's the fact it is endemic in certain Pakistani areas
Its also endemic amongst white english males.

FiF

44,079 posts

251 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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This thread reminds me of the Huhne PtCoJ thread where one poster made himself look an absolute fool by just repeating the same mantra despite having many others explaining the issues in many different ways and from different angles.

He just kept on the same refusal to accept that anyone had answered his question satisfactorily yet refused to answer questions put to him. Rather a lot of people put him in their personal ignore box.

The same will happen here.

In trying to make the valid point that white males also commit CSE be they English or other heritage it has been effective in cruelly exposing the issue that there appears amongst some to be a reluctance to accept that there is a clear set of common factors with some sectors in some areas.

2015 GE election will be interesting. Withmy connections Iin the area have never heard such anti Labour pro UKIP feelings before. From people who historically would have voted for a greasy pig if it had a red rosette, and basically with D McShane and S Wright pretty much did exactly that.