another abuse gang

[magnum555]

anonymous said:

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I'm not defending anyone but this continually attack on one group will only create discrimination and hatred. One community cannot be held accountable, it's completely illogical. Time and time its been proven these crimes are committed by all colours. I've just given you a link of white english men holding paedo parties.

[magnum555]

anonymous said:

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Sources?

[magnum555]

anonymous said:

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Just provide the sources.

[magnum555]

anonymous said:

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Your finding it hard to admit there is an issue with white english males and paedophilia.

[andymadmak]

magnum555 said:

I'm not defending anyone but this continually attack on one group will only create discrimination and hatred. One community cannot be held accountable, it's completely illogical. Time and time its been proven these crimes are committed by all colours. I've just given you a link of white english men holding paedo parties.

OK, one last time....

1. Nobody is saying that ONLY Pakistani males abuse children

2. People are pointing out that different groups of abusers exhibit patterns which give clues as to how the abuse came about - this is important as it enables society to look out for those patterns and in some cases actively look to change those patterns so as to protect potential victims from abuse in the future.

3. ONE of the patterns identified is that of Pakistani males in various areas around the country. These people have a particularly distinct mode of operation (pattern) and (and this is the most important part for you to understand) are at least 6 yes SIX! times more likely to be committing these sorts of offences than other ethnic groups (including white people) when the crimes are assessed against the % of the population of each ethnic group. Now that is a pattern that needs to be investigated does it not?

4. Nobody is saying that investigating the pattern above precludes society from investigating any of the other emerging patterns of abuse. Be they Catholic priests, 70s celebs, or Hungarian Donkey breeders* , they all need stopping and that is best achieved by understanding the particular drivers and reasons behind the activities of each group.

• I may have made this category up..maybe.

[magnum555]

andymadmak said:

magnum555 said:

I'm not defending anyone but this continually attack on one group will only create discrimination and hatred. One community cannot be held accountable, it's completely illogical. Time and time its been proven these crimes are committed by all colours. I've just given you a link of white english men holding paedo parties.

OK, one last time....

1. Nobody is saying that ONLY Pakistani males abuse children

2. People are pointing out that different groups of abusers exhibit patterns which give clues as to how the abuse came about - this is important as it enables society to look out for those patterns and in some cases actively look to change those patterns so as to protect potential victims from abuse in the future.

3. ONE of the patterns identified is that of Pakistani males in various areas around the country. These people have a particularly distinct mode of operation (pattern) and (and this is the most important part for you to understand) are at least 6 yes SIX! times more likely to be committing these sorts of offences than other ethnic groups (including white people) when the crimes are assessed against the % of the population of each ethnic group. Now that is a pattern that needs to be investigated does it not?

4. Nobody is saying that investigating the pattern above precludes society from investigating any of the other emerging patterns of abuse. Be they Catholic priests, 70s celebs, or Hungarian Donkey breeders* , they all need stopping and that is best achieved by understanding the particular drivers and reasons behind the activities of each group.

• I may have made this category up..maybe.

Sources?

[heppers75]

anonymous said:

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A 2011 study by the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre looked at the 2,379 potential offenders caught grooming girls since 2008. Of 940 suspects whose race could be identified, 26% were Asian, 38% were white and 32% were recorded as unknown. Asians are roughly 7% of the population.

http://www.channel4.com/news/ceop-warns-against-fo...

ETA - http://lawandfreedomfoundation.org/wp-content/uplo...

[Jinx]

magnum555 said:

Its also endemic amongst white english males.

Article said:

Joanne Gale, aged 36

Well known Male English name there - oh wait........
Again though with the diversionary tactic - this Wiltshire based group of nonces did not get special protection from investigation because of their ethnicity - unlike the abuse gangs we are discussing.

[Mermaid]

anonymous said:

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I did ask if one of his mates had been arrested, and whether he had also taken part - no answer, as he did not answer my question about the image of Pakistani men in this fair land.

[Bill]

heppers75 said:

A 2011 study by the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre looked at the 2,379 potential offenders caught grooming girls since 2008. Of 940 suspects whose race could be identified, 26% were Asian, 38% were white and 32% were recorded as unknown. Asians are roughly 7% of the population.

http://www.channel4.com/news/ceop-warns-against-fo...

I'm not sure you can draw any conclusion from that. They identified the race of the groomer in about 40% of cases, but of those 32% are "unknown".

From your own link: They added: "We do not draw national conclusions about ethnicity from the data available at this time because it is too inconsistent."

Edited by Bill on Thursday 28th August 09:52

[Mermaid]

Twincharge said:

You will not see the average British Pakistani, educated professional doing this sort of thing.

100% agree, but their image is at the risk of being tarnished by these subhumans.

[WinstonWolf]

anonymous said:

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Read the papers you despicable little weasel.

[PorkInsider]

magnum555 said:

Its also endemic amongst white english males.

You do know what endemic means?

[Mermaid]

Trax said:

But it's the wrong question. Maybe a question for another thread, but it isn't the point here.

The question is, of these 1400 girls/children, of which a proportion could be argued as vulnerable, why were they predominately, to the point of almost all, raped/abused, dowsed with petrol, beat up, sold to friends etc, by Pakistani Men and not white men?

Excellent question but you will not get an answer from the apologists, whilst it is clear to everyone else.

[heppers75]

Bill said:

heppers75 said:

A 2011 study by the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre looked at the 2,379 potential offenders caught grooming girls since 2008. Of 940 suspects whose race could be identified, 26% were Asian, 38% were white and 32% were recorded as unknown. Asians are roughly 7% of the population.

http://www.channel4.com/news/ceop-warns-against-fo...

I'm not sure you can draw any conclusion from that. They identified the race of the groomer in about 40% of cases, but of those 32% are "unknown".

Well what I took from it was that out of those that was that even if you assume that the remaining 32% were white (which is perhaps not likely) then if the Asian population of the UK is 26% then guess what it is an equal problem. However if the Asian population of the UK is a lower percentage than 26% then statistically speaking it is more likely to be a crime perpetrated by someone of Asian ethnicity.

Someone asked for sources, there was also a PDF article posted as well which has some interesting statistics in it.

[WinstonWolf]

anonymous said:

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Because they have small penises and it's the only way they'll get any?

http://forum.Pakistanidefence.com/index.php?showto...


MUMBAI: Scientists at the country’s premier medical research institute have just concluded an extensive two-year study of the penis sizes of Indian men. In the next few months, they will recommend condom sizes that are right for the Indian population so as to reduce the rate of failure.

The data is still being collated and analysed by the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR), but preliminary findings indicate that condoms available in the market are oversized. “As per international standards, most condoms are 150 mm to 180 mm in length and 44 to 56 mm in width. But data collected in Mumbai till 2001 showed that 60% of the participants measured 126 to 156 mm in length and 30% between 100 and 125 mm,’’ said a city researcher, pointing out that there was a difference of at least 5 cm in length.

[alfaman]

anonymous said:

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Actually the offending rate for Pakistanis could be more like 10x - 20x the norm... 26/64 of identified offenders are 'Asian' ... So about 40%. Not unreasonable to assume that out of that 24 the vast majority is Pakistani - not Singaporean / Vietnamese / Chinese/ Japanese / Korean / Thai / Malaysian / Indonesian / Nepalese / Indian.

Pakistanis are what 2%+ of UK population? 40/2 = 20x ( or thereabouts ).. Even if only half of the Asians - then it's around 10x.

Stands out a bit doesn't it?

[andymadmak]

I don't usually do "Wiki" but this page contains all sorts of links and info that even you Mr Magnum should find compelling..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_sex_traffick...

[Bill]

heppers75 said:

Well what I took from it was that out of those that was that even if you assume that the remaining 32% were white (which is perhaps not likely) then if the Asian population of the UK is 26% then guess what it is an equal problem. However if the Asian population of the UK is a lower percentage than 26% then statistically speaking it is more likely to be a crime perpetrated by someone of Asian ethnicity.

Someone asked for sources, there was also a PDF article posted as well which has some interesting statistics in it.

Yep. There's little doubt "Asians" are over-represented, and most of those are of Pakistani origin, but we can't put accurate figures on it.

It's also probably fair to say that had this been dealt with 10 years ago then this over-representation wouldn't have occured.

[HonestIago]

PorkInsider said:

magnum555 said:

Its also endemic amongst white english males.

You do know what endemic means?

Yeah I was going to say...