Foster Children removed from couple for UKIP membership
Discussion
Andy Zarse said:
Terrible answer. I asked you what you were going to do about those who come here for a free ride off the backs of those who work and pay tax often on very low wages. You say you'd provide help, well what help? Would you agree it's best not to allow the situation to arise in the first place?
People who come along for a free ride, whether home grown or external are as inevitable in a society, we all know them, free riding is a well researched and studied part of social philosophy and is no doubt high on the agenda of policy makers and our countries greatest thinkers.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_rider_problem
Dividing free riders into categories based on their ethnicity, parentage or birth place is simply racist. Suggesting that our native free riders be treated differently from imported free riders is unfathomable.
mattnunn said:
Suggesting that our native free riders be treated differently from imported free riders is unfathomable.
But stopping free-riders from elsewhere from entering the country (which is what is suggested) is not the same, if you bothered to think for a nanosecond before you posted this drivel, you'd see that.Mark Benson said:
mattnunn said:
Suggesting that our native free riders be treated differently from imported free riders is unfathomable.
But stopping free-riders from elsewhere from entering the country (which is what is suggested) is not the same, if you bothered to think for a nanosecond before you posted this drivel, you'd see that.Andy Zarse said:
Mark Benson said:
mattnunn said:
Suggesting that our native free riders be treated differently from imported free riders is unfathomable.
But stopping free-riders from elsewhere from entering the country (which is what is suggested) is not the same, if you bothered to think for a nanosecond before you posted this drivel, you'd see that.mattnunn said:
Dividing free riders into categories based on their ethnicity, parentage or birth place is simply racist. Suggesting that our native free riders be treated differently from imported free riders is unfathomable.
What exactly do you mean by 'native free riders' - do you mean people with UK passports? If so then differentiating between them and people who have come here to work and live, but do not have UK passports is not racist. It might be something else, but it's not racist. For the record, I think that benefits, if any at all, provided to the second group should be far less.
Edited by fido on Thursday 29th November 16:22
13 Apr 2011
In his most forthright speech on the issue since he became Prime Minister, he will say that mass immigration has led to "discomfort and disjointedness" in neighbourhoods because some migrants have been unwilling to integrate or learn English.
Pledging to cut the numbers entering Britain to tens of thousands, rather than hundreds of thousands, Mr Cameron will say that "for too long, immigration has been too high".
He will also promise to "stamp out" forced marriages, saying that "cultural sensitivity" cannot be allowed to stop the Government from acting.
In the speech to party members in Hampshire, the Prime Minister will attack Labour for claiming it was racist to talk about immigration, saying it is "untruthful and unfair" not to speak about the issue, however uncomfortable.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration...
In his most forthright speech on the issue since he became Prime Minister, he will say that mass immigration has led to "discomfort and disjointedness" in neighbourhoods because some migrants have been unwilling to integrate or learn English.
Pledging to cut the numbers entering Britain to tens of thousands, rather than hundreds of thousands, Mr Cameron will say that "for too long, immigration has been too high".
He will also promise to "stamp out" forced marriages, saying that "cultural sensitivity" cannot be allowed to stop the Government from acting.
In the speech to party members in Hampshire, the Prime Minister will attack Labour for claiming it was racist to talk about immigration, saying it is "untruthful and unfair" not to speak about the issue, however uncomfortable.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration...
nigel_bytes said:
13 Apr 2011
In his most forthright speech on the issue since he became Prime Minister, he will say that mass immigration has led to "discomfort and disjointedness" in neighbourhoods because some migrants have been unwilling to integrate or learn English.
Pledging to cut the numbers entering Britain to tens of thousands, rather than hundreds of thousands, Mr Cameron will say that "for too long, immigration has been too high".
He will also promise to "stamp out" forced marriages, saying that "cultural sensitivity" cannot be allowed to stop the Government from acting.
In the speech to party members in Hampshire, the Prime Minister will attack Labour for claiming it was racist to talk about immigration, saying it is "untruthful and unfair" not to speak about the issue, however uncomfortable.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration...
And how is that coming along?In his most forthright speech on the issue since he became Prime Minister, he will say that mass immigration has led to "discomfort and disjointedness" in neighbourhoods because some migrants have been unwilling to integrate or learn English.
Pledging to cut the numbers entering Britain to tens of thousands, rather than hundreds of thousands, Mr Cameron will say that "for too long, immigration has been too high".
He will also promise to "stamp out" forced marriages, saying that "cultural sensitivity" cannot be allowed to stop the Government from acting.
In the speech to party members in Hampshire, the Prime Minister will attack Labour for claiming it was racist to talk about immigration, saying it is "untruthful and unfair" not to speak about the issue, however uncomfortable.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration...
When we see a significant change?
mattnunn said:
So you're telling me there is no one in the US working and contributing to their countries economy that doesn't have equality in access to public services?
Really?
It's exploitation, pure and simple. Which is why the UK don't do it. The UK is a civilised nation built on the ideal of fairness and equality for all. A nation that recognises that a hard days work should be rewarded by fair pay and fair access to the resources of the nation.
Knob, go read up on the US welfare system and come back when you know what you're on about. No health insurance, you're pretty much on your own.Really?
It's exploitation, pure and simple. Which is why the UK don't do it. The UK is a civilised nation built on the ideal of fairness and equality for all. A nation that recognises that a hard days work should be rewarded by fair pay and fair access to the resources of the nation.
Mark Benson said:
Andy Zarse said:
Mark Benson said:
mattnunn said:
Suggesting that our native free riders be treated differently from imported free riders is unfathomable.
But stopping free-riders from elsewhere from entering the country (which is what is suggested) is not the same, if you bothered to think for a nanosecond before you posted this drivel, you'd see that.As a result of being banned for no good reason I have been unable to partake in this discussion. I haven't read the thread but I doubt I have much to say which hasn't already been said. All I would say is the whole story is extremely weird and I can't help but think there's one component of it that we don't know, for instance the stonefaced woman in charge of childrens services didn't answer clearly how their UKIP membership became known to them.
Speaking of the stonefaced cow, jesus christ these council people are the most ernest, personality devoid people in the world aren't they?
Speaking of the stonefaced cow, jesus christ these council people are the most ernest, personality devoid people in the world aren't they?
martin84 said:
As a result of being banned for no good reason I have been unable to partake in this discussion. I haven't read the thread but I doubt I have much to say which hasn't already been said. All I would say is the whole story is extremely weird and I can't help but think there's one component of it that we don't know, for instance the stonefaced woman in charge of childrens services didn't answer clearly how their UKIP membership became known to them.
Creepy martin84 said:
Speaking of the stonefaced cow, jesus christ these council people are the most ernest, personality devoid people in the world aren't they?
Evidently 
mattnunn said:
Andy Zarse said:
Terrible answer. I asked you what you were going to do about those who come here for a free ride off the backs of those who work and pay tax often on very low wages. You say you'd provide help, well what help? Would you agree it's best not to allow the situation to arise in the first place?
People who come along for a free ride, whether home grown or external are as inevitable in a society, we all know them, free riding is a well researched and studied part of social philosophy and is no doubt high on the agenda of policy makers and our countries greatest thinkers.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_rider_problem
Dividing free riders into categories based on their ethnicity, parentage or birth place is simply racist. Suggesting that our native free riders be treated differently from imported free riders is unfathomable.
it wont matter if your friends or cant get in and all the food and drink is gone, eaten by strangers....???
hidetheelephants said:
martin84 said:
Speaking of the stonefaced cow, jesus christ these council people are the most ernest, personality devoid people in the world aren't they?
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