Jobless mum spends £2k of benefits on christmas

[s3fella]

Tiggsy said:

Grow up you lot, she gets £15k a year ......you really believe she's dropping 2k on gifts? No wonder the mail is so popular.

15k a year take home and it costs her less than 5k a year for her rent.

So that is 10k to spend on heating for a 2 bed flat, c tax and food. Free school meals for the nicely tanned kids, they'll be fe transport for her and the kids, sky tv is 70 a month, she can easily save 200 quid away.

Once I've paid my mortgage, and heating / light, ( which is more than her rent!) , she has more disposable than I do!

How do you think a waste of space like this would ever earn the 20k plus that she would need to actually 'earn' the sort of cash she does. Plus, if you actually have a job, you spend more on travel, work clothes, stuff like lunches etc.

She's right, the system is fked up, if she can save away 200 quid a month, they need to be reducing her benefits by 200 quid a month.

[anonymous-user]

DonkeyApple said:

Only idiots shout at chickens. All you bunch of whingers do is post on non relevant Internet forums because you haven't the brains or balls to actually do anything about it.

....says the Donkey in his 10,797th post in under 3 years. Oh dear.

[anonymous-user]

Willie Dee said:

I don't think starving and neglecting the children is the way forward though, do you? It'll only end in them stealing everything you and I work hard for and hold dear.

They're already doing that, hence this thread.

[Turn7]

s3fella said:

Tiggsy said:

Grow up you lot, she gets £15k a year ......you really believe she's dropping 2k on gifts? No wonder the mail is so popular.

15k a year take home and it costs her less than 5k a year for her rent.

So that is 10k to spend on heating for a 2 bed flat, c tax and food. Free school meals for the nicely tanned kids, they'll be fe transport for her and the kids, sky tv is 70 a month, she can easily save 200 quid away.

Once I've paid my mortgage, and heating / light, ( which is more than her rent!) , she has more disposable than I do!

How do you think a waste of space like this would ever earn the 20k plus that she would need to actually 'earn' the sort of cash she does. Plus, if you actually have a job, you spend more on travel, work clothes, stuff like lunches etc.

She's right, the system is fked up, if she can save away 200 quid a month, they need to be reducing her benefits by 300 quid a month.

Fixed that for you...

[whoami]

Tiggsy said:

Grow up you lot, she gets £15k a year ......you really believe she's dropping 2k on gifts? No wonder the mail is so popular.

You are very profligate with our money.

Why?

[Deva Link]

s3fella said:

So that is 10k to spend on heating for a 2 bed flat, c tax and food.

£200/wk for absolutely everything, apart from housing costs? I can't begin to imagine how st that must be.

[AW35]

But just look at the number of men on here who have wasted lots and lots on cars which could have been put to better use treating the family rather than a hobby where only one person gets any enjoyment out of. Selfish buggers

[Tiggsy]

s3fella said:

Free school meals for the nicely tanned kids, they'll be fe transport for her and the kids, sky tv is 70 a month, she can easily save 200 quid away.

Wow. Genuinely surprised stuff like this is acceptable. Tanned? Serious?

[Mario149]

User33678888 said:

This is yet another blindingly obvious sign that benefits need to be paid in vouchers for food, childrens clothing etc. An iPad is not a necessity.

This^^. If you're going to live off other people's money, you should only be able to get what you need. To do anything less is shameful and lacking in self respect, let alone respect to those that fund you.

As a side note, frankly, anyone who has been to university knows it's possible to have a good life on next to no money.

[Globs]

Deva Link said:

s3fella said:

So that is 10k to spend on heating for a 2 bed flat, c tax and food.

£200/wk for absolutely everything, apart from housing costs? I can't begin to imagine how st that must be.

Considering she doesn't have to go to work AT ALL it's pretty damn good. Many pensioners who have worked all their lives get a lot less than that to spend. And what if it is st? I mean - really - what if it is? If it's that bad she could get a job - fking scrounger.

[vdp1]

If only I was in charge of the benefits system.

9am monday down the office: ring ring.
dole scum: 'yea, what is is mate, I aint got no money in my bank in it'
me: Well have you done any work in the last two weeks sir?
DS: 'na mate, me aint done nufink bro'
me: well there's you fking problem then you lazy fking tt.

In fact the best answer would be to use the benefits money to pay for child care between true working hours, say 0700 to 1800, or earlier/later if needs be. That way the 'parents' would have no excuse not to go to work as the kids would be looked after and fed. And if they didn't bother then who cares what happens to them.
I would gladly pay more taxes just to see the great unwashed stood at a bus stop in the dark in January heading off to put nuts and bolts in a cardboard box all day for £6.

[DonkeyApple]

REALIST123 said:

DonkeyApple said:

Only idiots shout at chickens. All you bunch of whingers do is post on non relevant Internet forums because you haven't the brains or balls to actually do anything about it.

....says the Donkey in his 10,797th post in under 3 years. Oh dear.

So, er, your a chicken then.

You angry tabloid addicts are funny.

[Deva Link]

Globs said:

Many pensioners who have worked all their lives get a lot less than that to spend.

Really? We looked after a pensioner (my wife had PoA) and his (single person) income from pension and benefits was £300/wk. He owned his house but council tax was fully covered by benefits so presumeably if he'd been renting that would have been paid too.

[vdp1]

Right, my bills: Fortunately no mortgage, a bit like having the rent paid for you really.
SO, electric £6 per week, gas £10 per week, water, £5 per week, council tax £19 per week, food £30 per week.

I make that £70 per week. WTF

[anonymous-user]

DonkeyApple said:

REALIST123 said:

DonkeyApple said:

Only idiots shout at chickens. All you bunch of whingers do is post on non relevant Internet forums because you haven't the brains or balls to actually do anything about it.

....says the Donkey in his 10,797th post in under 3 years. Oh dear.

So, er, your a chicken then.

You angry tabloid addicts are funny.

Oh brilliant, another Saturday night and yet again an Internet warrior with serious anger management issues.

[Deva Link]

vdp1 said:

Right, my bills: Fortunately no mortgage, a bit like having the rent paid for you really.
SO, electric £6 per week, gas £10 per week, water, £5 per week, council tax £19 per week, food £30 per week.

I make that £70 per week. WTF

OK, so you sit in the dark and cold, you're very skinny and you and your clothes are dirty.

[DonkeyApple]

MercScot said:

DonkeyApple said:

REALIST123 said:

DonkeyApple said:

Only idiots shout at chickens. All you bunch of whingers do is post on non relevant Internet forums because you haven't the brains or balls to actually do anything about it.

....says the Donkey in his 10,797th post in under 3 years. Oh dear.

So, er, your a chicken then.

You angry tabloid addicts are funny.

Oh brilliant, another Saturday night and yet again an Internet warrior with serious anger management issues.

Not really. In fact, rather the opposite. Just find all these Daily Mail threads laughable. Full of people who seem just so angry that people are getting a load of stuff for nothing but can't be arsed to do anything about it.

Nothing changes unless people stand up and do something about it. I doubt falling for a DM ruse really counts does it?

And yet no one has yet answered the very simple question of what does getting all worked up at the recipient of perfectly legitimate welfare achieve? It's silly. It's not like they are the ones giving all the money out.

Like I said earlier, if you are against battery farms do you think getting angry at the chickens will either achieve anything or make you look a little bit mental.

[Ari]

Tiggsy said:

She may be on (ball park) £15k pa but all the narrative built around that is bull st designed to get you to react the way you did. (and draw out the odd PH who likes to wear a white pointy hat at the weekend )

Living on benefits with 2 kids is a st life that goes nowhere fast. Should we re-do the system to get her off her arse, shut her legs and go to work....sure we should, but lets do that because its sensible - not because of some stupid made up crap in a womans magazine!

The way these stories work is as follows:

To get this paragraph:

"And the mum admits she treats herself as well. She says: “I go clubbing with my friends every fortnight and love having lunch at Italian restaurant Prezzo. I dress nicely as I don’t want to be labelled a ‘benefits mum.’"

The interviewer (I) does this:

I: So, this flat is a dump and your life seems a bit sucky....do you not try and get out?

Mum: My friends are great, they try and arrange some child car for me every now and then so I can get out the house and not go mad!

I: Nice, how often?

Mum: Not much, it's too expensive - I went a fortnight ago I think?

I: Nice, where?

Mum: We went to a pub as I had a voucher for a cheap drink. It was nice, bit of music was on

I: Right, like a club. What about eating out?

Mum: Are you kidding? With these two kids? That said, my Mum took me to Prezzo last year for my birthday - that was wonderful.

I: Arent you worried people look at you and think you look like a benifits mum?

Mum: I hope not....I try to dress myself and the kids as best I can. You dont need to spend a lot to look good and friends often let me have nice stuff they dont want anymore.

I: And you realize some people will say you're the wrong color?

Mum: They will where?

I: Pistonheads - we'll get you pose in front of a pile of shopping, twist all your words and make it seem like living in this st hole on £15k with 2 kids and no dad is great fun......and someone who drops more on servicing his 911 than you spend on food will say you're too not white.

Mum: Not sure I like the idea of this?

I: Shut up, heres your £900 for the story - and tidy this place up you waster.

100% this!!

These stories are nasty over exagerated half truths (at best) designed to get the hard of thinking foaming at the mouth.

And they work, clearly!

Don't be so gullible!

[Globs]

Ari said:

These stories are nasty over exagerated half truths (at best) designed to get the hard of thinking foaming at the mouth.

And they work, clearly!

Don't be so gullible!

That's all very lovely, but you forget one inconvenient fact: We KNOW people who do this.

[vdp1]

Deva Link said:

vdp1 said:

Right, my bills: Fortunately no mortgage, a bit like having the rent paid for you really.
SO, electric £6 per week, gas £10 per week, water, £5 per week, council tax £19 per week, food £30 per week.

I make that £70 per week. WTF

OK, so you sit in the dark and cold, you're very skinny and you and your clothes are dirty.

Not at all, its a (smallish) 3 bed semi about 10 years old, just checked the room stat and its saying 17.9, heating went off at 9pm. I'm out at 7.30 in the morning and get back about 5pm. When I am in its just a tv/computer that is on and a couple of wall lights on a dimmer, I only have these on as there is absolutely no need for anything else to be on in the house. Washer is on twice a week and dishwasher once a week.
As for me I have a (5mins) shower once or twice a day, am about 5'5" and about 15 stone so quite a porker.
These are my basic bills and I obviously spend more on other things but I was pointing out that its easy to get by on less than £100 per week, no need for anything else.
As for having kids, how much can a box of farleys rusks cost?



Edit, When I'm out I probably spend 3 or 4 quid a day on sandwiches etc so max of £50 per week on food.