Lost Prophets singer charged

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emicen

8,585 posts

218 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Pommygranite said:
Centurion07 said:
Lewis: That's what I thought. I think even the oldest looking 13 year old would still look young enough for you to be seriously questioning her age.

Eric: Quite right. I don't think any details should be released prior to at least the trial, never mind just being arrested.
Ahem, Traci Lords...
There was a 14yr old girl in my ski class a few years back. She was tall, had breasts and could hold an adult conversation. If she had stolen her big sister's ID and gone out clubbing, you could very easily wake up in the morning in a whole world of trouble.

However, she's the exception that proves the rule. I've taught literally thousands of teenagers and she's the first one that wasnt clearly just a silly wee girl at 14.

petemurphy

10,123 posts

183 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Getragdogleg said:
Is the "making" bit of that not just the act of printing it out or storing it ? In all the cases of people fiddling with kids locally when you read about it in the local rag I noticed they are always charged with this even if they have not actually touched any kids.

What is the legal definition ? is my interpretation correct or does it actually mean they got the old camera out and took the pics ?
you could be making them right now - if an image appears on your screen even for a milisecond and even if its off the screen that you cant see its making - no cameras are involved..

DonkeyApple

55,299 posts

169 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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lewisf182 said:

Lol.. I get that. Just cant see how somebodies mind could ever work like that especially, like i said, he could easily have a fair few legal 16 year olds if he wanted im sure. Ah well, i dont think wel ever know what goes on in their heads.

Rare that you'd get a women doing it though id have thought, especially 2? Could be more ro the story!
I don't think the involvement of women in the 'industry' is as uncommon as people think.

They are the group with the highest access to children which means they themselves are potential targets by men looking to gain access.

BOR

4,702 posts

255 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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ruz316 said:
Something needs to be done about this white culture of noncing kids
Why don't their community leaders speak out about it instead of letting it go on for so long ?

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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rah1888 said:
The comments lower down the page, written 11 months ago, make some interesting reading today.

http://www.whosdatedwho.com/tpx_74997/ian-watkins/
You'd like to think they already know about it but surely that should be reported to the police.

DonkeyApple

55,299 posts

169 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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BOR said:
ruz316 said:
Something needs to be done about this white culture of noncing kids
Why don't their community leaders speak out about it instead of letting it go on for so long ?
Maybe they were but being Welsh no one could understand what they were saying in between bouts of flemming. wink

thetapeworm

11,227 posts

239 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Someone I follow on Twitter retweeted a plea from Welsh ex-Steps member Ian "H" Watkins yesterday to check they had the right person before abusing him.

The Wikipedia entry for the Lost Prophets variant says "extreme animal pornography" as well as the other thing, has anyone seen that reported in the media?

DonkeyApple

55,299 posts

169 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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thetapeworm said:
Someone I follow on Twitter retweeted a plea from Welsh ex-Steps member Ian "H" Watkins yesterday to check they had the right person before abusing him.
That's actually a very unpleasant situation to find yourself in when so many angry people are mentally retarded.

petemurphy

10,123 posts

183 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
That's actually a very unpleasant situation to find yourself in when so many angry people are mentally retarded.
could he not sue anyone who says anything against him like the tory chap?

Silent1

19,761 posts

235 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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I'm placing bets on the photos ending up involving both animals and children from what i've read, it seems he's got history for his tour groups luggage being inspected and beastiality DVDs were confiscated.
That along with the extreme porn and other sites say making(downloading not taking) indecent images as otherwise the charge would be creation of images.

petemurphy

10,123 posts

183 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Silent1 said:
I'm placing bets on the photos ending up involving both animals and children from what i've read, it seems he's got history for his tour groups luggage being inspected and beastiality DVDs were confiscated.
That along with the extreme porn and other sites say making(downloading not taking) indecent images as otherwise the charge would be creation of images.
there is no such charge as far as im aware?

Kozy

3,169 posts

218 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Wuzzle said:
His record company must be worried about lost profits.
Have a rofl from me, no-one else got it. biggrin

DonkeyApple

55,299 posts

169 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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petemurphy said:
DonkeyApple said:
That's actually a very unpleasant situation to find yourself in when so many angry people are mentally retarded.
could he not sue anyone who says anything against him like the tory chap?
I'm guessing but the defense would be mistake ID etc.

No, I was more concerned about an idiot in the street attacking the poor sod.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

190 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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I really hope it's someone trying desperately to stitch him up, I'm a bit of a fan of LP. But reading some of the stuff that seems to be coming to light it's looking more and more like it's genuine. frown

Which makes me feel sick to the pit of my stomach.

I too didn't grasp the significance of the females being allowed to remain un-named, but am also a bit un-domfortable with him being named before it gets to the trial, there's a risk (as there appears to be with so many things now) that he and the women won't be able to have a fair trial after the publicity. I find the "trial by media" thing that we seem to have at the moment very dis-concerting [sp].

Also, that "who's dated who" website seems to have been editted, I couldn't see any comments, so i think his page has been amended now to remove it all.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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thetapeworm said:
The Wikipedia entry for the Lost Prophets variant says "extreme animal pornography" as well as the other thing, has anyone seen that reported in the media?
Yep, Sky News

http://news.sky.com/story/1027393/lostprophets-sin...

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

198 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Welshman? Animal Pornograhy? And no-one made the obvious sheep jokes yet? I am disapoint.

okgo

38,041 posts

198 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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There are enough people on those comment sites saying these things long enough ago to make me think that its actually true.

Not seen the HIV thing come to life in the press yet, if that is also true, he is in for a long stint you'd imagine. Also if again this is true, there isn't a prison in the world that will keep him safe from the others in prison, as I understand rape of kids is not a popular crime inside?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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The Black Flash said:
Welshman? Animal Pornograhy? And no-one made the obvious sheep jokes yet? I am disapoint.
Disappoint.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

190 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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hornetrider said:
The Black Flash said:
Welshman? Animal Pornograhy? And no-one made the obvious sheep jokes yet? I am disapoint.
Disappoint.....
....ed

If your gonna fix it, fix it properly! winklaugh

Greenwich Ross

1,219 posts

173 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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AshVX220 said:
hornetrider said:
The Black Flash said:
Welshman? Animal Pornograhy? And no-one made the obvious sheep jokes yet? I am disapoint.
Disappoint.....
....ed

If your gonna fix it, fix it properly! winklaugh
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