Lost Prophets singer charged

[FN2TypeR]

Welshbeef said:

How could anyone let something like this or risk of this possibly slide for the sake of an easy ride?

Incompetence arrogance or golden goodbye is coming so don't rock the boat.




On a separate note how is young Ian Watkins doing these days? Has he been on the receiving end of savage assault whilst inside prison? If any of the guards are preventing a daily battering and soddomy with blades then they too should be sacked.

I would well imagine that him getting a kicking would make the news and it has been all quiet on that front. I'm no jail expert but being famous and a nonce is probably a bad combination for safety, he's likely kept away from other, violent cons for his own well being, surely?

[Welshbeef]

FN2TypeR said:

I would well imagine that him getting a kicking would make the news and it has been all quiet on that front. I'm no jail expert but being famous and a nonce is probably a bad combination for safety, he's likely kept away from other, violent cons for his own well being, surely?

That cop killer in Manchester had his eye gouged out in jail.

Now. What he did war horrific but what this scum did was in a different league -

I'd never tire of giving him savage daily beatings - death by a thousand cuts?

[Lance Catamaran]

He'd definitely be kept in a segregation wing away from everyone else. I don't tend to follow court cases, but this is one of the few that I did and somewhat regret it, since it was so vile it's impossible to forget. I loved the Lost Prophets growing up, but after this I binned all my CDs and to this day haven't listened to another one of their songs.

[davidball]

The three officers would have faced misconduct hearings over their inaction but that all three had since retired.

WTF! They had not retired when their inaction may have resulted in further danger.

The IPCC can do nothing because they are retired? Police immunity in action.

Take disciplinary procedures away from the police forces themselves. Do not depend on the CPS. We really do need an independent commission that can discipline police officers directly.

[andy_s]

davidball said:

The three officers would have faced misconduct hearings over their inaction but that all three had since retired.

WTF! They had not retired when their inaction may have resulted in further danger.

The IPCC can do nothing because they are retired? Police immunity in action.

Take disciplinary procedures away from the police forces themselves. Do not depend on the CPS. We really do need an independent commission that can discipline police officers directly.

Yup, keep shouting about it on PH and I'm sure you'll get it.

There is no jurisdiction over retired police by an independent professional standards organisation. This is completely obvious situation, I've no idea why you're laying the blame at them. Screeching 'police immunity in action' doesn't make it so.

Presumably you've finished school - can the headmaster tell you to pull your socks up? If not, is it because you have a special immunity or does that just apply across the board?

You are trying to make a purse from a sows ear on this particular one. It's difficult to discipline police officers when they aren't, er, police officers...

[Getragdogleg]

andy_s said:

Yup, keep shouting about it on PH and I'm sure you'll get it.

There is no jurisdiction over retired police by an independent professional standards organisation. This is completely obvious situation, I've no idea why you're laying the blame at them. Screeching 'police immunity in action' doesn't make it so.

Presumably you've finished school - can the headmaster tell you to pull your socks up? If not, is it because you have a special immunity or does that just apply across the board?

You are trying to make a purse from a sows ear on this particular one. It's difficult to discipline police officers when they aren't, er, police officers...

If the director of a company evaded tax or got someone killed and then retired they would be immune from prosecution then ?

[andy_s]

Getragdogleg said:

andy_s said:

Yup, keep shouting about it on PH and I'm sure you'll get it.

There is no jurisdiction over retired police by an independent professional standards organisation. This is completely obvious situation, I've no idea why you're laying the blame at them. Screeching 'police immunity in action' doesn't make it so.

Presumably you've finished school - can the headmaster tell you to pull your socks up? If not, is it because you have a special immunity or does that just apply across the board?

You are trying to make a purse from a sows ear on this particular one. It's difficult to discipline police officers when they aren't, er, police officers...

If the director of a company evaded tax or got someone killed and then retired they would be immune from prosecution then ?

Police aren't immune from prosecution - if they evade tax or get someone killed and retire they too would be investigated and prosecuted.

Professional standards and criminal acts are two different things.

[anonymous-user]

davidball said:

The IPCC can do nothing because they are retired? Police immunity in action.

How could internal sanctions possibly work on someone who left the organisation? Not just the police but any organisation.

What are you going to do? Dismiss someone (the harshest outcome) who has already left?

I don't expect any intelligent answers as I don't expect you actually understand what you're talking about.

Getragdogleg said:

If the director of a company evaded tax or got someone killed and then retired they would be immune from prosecution then?

It's nothing to do with prosecution.

It's talking about internal misconduct proceedings that are only relevant when someone is within the organisation.

[carinaman]

Fourth paragraph:

http://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/2017/news/police...

It's nice of the taxpayer funded Independent Police Complaints Commission choosing to spend on our money on an edited highlights version of the report.

[dandarez]

carinaman said:

Fourth paragraph:

http://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/2017/news/police...

It's nice of the taxpayer funded Independent Police Complaints Commission choosing to spend on our money on an edited highlights version of the report.

It's also nice that 'real' journos and hacks ignored police/ipcc representations 'not to run' the story.

Great stuff by both Chris Burn and Sarah Marshall.

Real journos story about a f. disgrace!

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/exclusive-inte...

Only one good thing came out of this. The 35 years sentence.

[XM5ER]

dandarez said:

It's also nice that 'real' journos and hacks ignored police/ipcc representations 'not to run' the story.

Great stuff by both Chris Burn and Sarah Marshall.

Real journos story about a f. disgrace!

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/exclusive-inte...

Only one good thing came out of this. The 35 years sentence.

"But in 2013 South Yorkshire Police arrested Ms Mjadzelics on child pornography charges, relating to the indecent images she had been sent by the disgraced rock star. A jury cleared her of all charges following a trial in 2015.

She said: “When they arrested me and told me they were charging me for possessing indecent images of children, I couldn’t believe it. I said ‘Do you mean the ones I’ve brought to you five times?’.”"

What a bunch of cunz.

[shakotan]

Lance Catamaran said:

I loved the Lost Prophets growing up, but after this I binned all my CDs and to this day haven't listened to another one of their songs.

Honestly, I don't understand this.

You can separate the art from the man. It's not like they sang about paedophilia, endorsed it or profited from it. The other band members had no idea it was even happening.

I still listen to the earlier albums (the later stuff got a bit too 'poppy' for my liking) without feeling any guilt or horror.

[Soov330e]

shakotan said:

Lance Catamaran said:

I loved the Lost Prophets growing up, but after this I binned all my CDs and to this day haven't listened to another one of their songs.

Honestly, I don't understand this.

You can separate the art from the man. It's not like they sang about paedophilia, endorsed it or profited from it. The other band members had no idea it was even happening.

I still listen to the earlier albums (the later stuff got a bit too 'poppy' for my liking) without feeling any guilt or horror.

I assume you still like this one as well

[Lance Catamaran]

shakotan said:

Lance Catamaran said:

I loved the Lost Prophets growing up, but after this I binned all my CDs and to this day haven't listened to another one of their songs.

Honestly, I don't understand this.

You can separate the art from the man. It's not like they sang about paedophilia, endorsed it or profited from it. The other band members had no idea it was even happening.

I still listen to the earlier albums (the later stuff got a bit too 'poppy' for my liking) without feeling any guilt or horror.

I almost always can, since there are plenty of musicians and artists who have done some pretty horrible things yet you can still enjoy them for the art they created. It's just in this particular instance the crime was so vile I could never hear his voice on a track without thinking about what he did, which removes any enjoyment I could gain from it.

We do have these odd double standard though where certain musicians get away with these sorts of acts. The Rolling Stones are one of the most beloved bands on the planet, yet no-one seems to mind Bill Wyman sleeping with a 13 year old.

[carinaman]

XM5ER said:

dandarez said:

It's also nice that 'real' journos and hacks ignored police/ipcc representations 'not to run' the story.

Great stuff by both Chris Burn and Sarah Marshall.

Real journos story about a f. disgrace!

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/exclusive-inte...

Only one good thing came out of this. The 35 years sentence.

"But in 2013 South Yorkshire Police arrested Ms Mjadzelics on child pornography charges, relating to the indecent images she had been sent by the disgraced rock star. A jury cleared her of all charges following a trial in 2015.

She said: “When they arrested me and told me they were charging me for possessing indecent images of children, I couldn’t believe it. I said ‘Do you mean the ones I’ve brought to you five times?’.”"

What a bunch of cunz.

I wonder why such misconduct by South Yorks. Police officers wasn't deemed an offence worth prosecuting?

You'd think such chancer like conduct, usually associated with common or garden ne'erdowells would be a misuse of public funds or something.

Chancers in police uniforms. You gotta love the cheeky rogues aint ya.

[BlackLabel]

Police missed a string of opportunities over a period of four years to stop the rock star Ian Watkins from committing depraved sex attacks on children and babies, a watchdog has concluded. Six people came forward to make allegations against Watkins, the lead singer of Lostprophets, before he was finally arrested and jailed for 35 years, the report from the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) found. On one occasion a simple check of a mobile phone owned by one of Watkins’s ex-girlfriends when she made a complaint about him would have revealed a message that spelled out his interest in sex with children, the IPCC said.

[ajprice]

He has been found guilty of having a mobile phone in prison, and had 10 months added to his sentence. http://www.ladbible.com/news/news-lostprophets-ian...

The phone was a GSTAR mini phone, about 3 inches long, and he hid it up his arse.

[A Winner Is You]

Next time you're having a bad day at work, just be grateful you aren't the person who has to inspect the arse of a baby raper for hidden objects. I can't imagine he's allowed anywhere near the regular inmates either.

[PurpleTurtle]

I've got to say that as I stood in their massive crowd at Reading Festival 2010 watching the Lostprophets, the very last thing that was going through my head was "this man will be convicted of being a baby rapist (attempted) and stashing a mobile phone up his bum within the decade!"

Life, eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaF1-SeUgTI

[HTP99]

ajprice said:

The phone was a GSTAR mini phone, about 3 inches long, and he hid it up his arse.

Given what I've heard about his other sexual sexual tastes, I don't think a 3" phone up the arse would have been a problem for him!