Lost Prophets singer charged

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jas xjr

11,309 posts

239 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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just a suggestion , the police could ask if any girls had been abused in a certain area to coe forward . rather than name people .

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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jas xjr said:
just a suggestion , the police could ask if any girls had been abused in a certain area to coe forward
A certain area... like pointing it out on a doll you mean?

Presumably you mean in and around the area he lives/works? How is that going to work with an international touring musician... or infact anyone in the entertainment industry?

Ken Sington

3,959 posts

238 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Not to condone etc, but not exactly unknown for musicians to be interested in the underage female of the species eg Jerry Lee Lewis, Jimmy Page, Bill Wyman etc.

2fast748

1,094 posts

195 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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I'm slightly surprised by his arrest for this offence as there was a picture floating round the web ages ago of him performing a certain act on a gentleman which he didn't really ever deny was him.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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lewisf182 said:
Very strange! Dont see why a guy with fame like this goes for young girls?
It seems it's a common minority sexual preference, in the same way as some people are homosexuals.

In the old days both were illegal. Now one's illegal and the other isn't.

Given that homosexuality was illegal for the under 21s until 1967 it won't be long before the Savile investigations go back far enough to spill over into arrests for offences in the 1960s which wouldn't be offences today.

petemurphy

10,122 posts

183 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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shouldnt be named until found guilty - his life is now ruined guilty or not

Wuzzle

9,658 posts

137 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Why not, I'm sure we will hear about it if gets released without charge. Putting his name out there means other victims may now come forward.

His record company must be worried about lost profits.

petemurphy

10,122 posts

183 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Wuzzle said:
Why not, I'm sure we will hear about it if gets released without charge. Putting his name out there means other victims may now come forward.

His record company must be worried about lost profits.
and if he gets realeased without charge you'll completely believe hes totally innocent and would expect his career and family life to be the same and not to get any abuse/jokes at gigs etc?

Wuzzle

9,658 posts

137 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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That's just how the system works, I don't buy the argument that the bigger the crime you are charged with the more rights you have to anonymity.

And yes, I would believe he was completely innocent.


petemurphy

10,122 posts

183 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Wuzzle said:
That's just how the system works, I don't buy the argument that the bigger the crime you are charged with the more rights you have to anonymity.

And yes, I would believe he was completely innocent.
its not a case of a bigger crime but one that has such stigma.

thetapeworm

11,225 posts

239 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Ken Sington said:
Not to condone etc, but not exactly unknown for musicians to be interested in the underage female of the species eg Jerry Lee Lewis, Jimmy Page, Bill Wyman etc.
BBC News said:
The lead singer of Welsh rock band Lostprophets has been charged with conspiracy to rape a one-year-old girl.

Ian Watkins, 35, of Pontypridd, appeared before Cardiff magistrates facing six charges relating to sexual offences against two young children.

He faces a charge of conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with a child under 13 and four offences relating to possession and distribution of indecent images of children.

He was remanded in custody.

The court heard that he had not admitted any of the offences, which date from May to December this year.

A 24-year-old woman has been charged with the same offences as Mr Watkins, while a 20-year-old woman is charged with five of the same offences but not conspiracy to rape.

Bail applications by all three were refused and they are due to appear before Cardiff Crown Court on 31 December.
From an updated story at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20785456

Far from a penchant for young girls close to the legal age.


Getragdogleg

8,766 posts

183 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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A 1 year old ? Wow, what the hell is wrong with him ?

We all know some young girls act more mature and you need to have your wits about you when out clubbing and the like but actually wanting to have sex with a baby is quite disturbing.

Prison is probably not the answer for this guy if found guilty, a mental health facility is more suited as it is clear that his brain has got a few of its wired links quite bady crossed.




P-Jay

10,565 posts

191 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Oh Jesus, just a baby then.

I note that the two co-accessed names are being withheld for “legal reasons”- parents of the intended victim?

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

195 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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I just had to check a few newspaper articles to make sure the BBC hadn't made a typo with the age...

Holy st, that is fking sick hurl

mondeoman

11,430 posts

266 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Thats not an "oops" moment by any stretch of the imagination.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Ah hells teeth. Well if it is true he deserves everything he gets.

In the meantime there's a favourite band of mine ruined. But that's hardly improtant of course!

Getragdogleg

8,766 posts

183 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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mondeoman said:
Thats not an "oops" moment by any stretch of the imagination.
As the parent of a one year old I actually find the whole thing thing leaves me feeling very very uneasy, My little girl is just that, very little, very venerable, tiny, innocent and utterly trusting. The idea of someone doing that to her fills me with a very sick feeling indeed.

This guy is accused of being the text book definition of a Pedophile, not someone who has been caught touching a randy 15 year old.

It makes me shiver what some people are capable of.

Digga

40,320 posts

283 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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mondeoman said:
Thats not an "oops" moment by any stretch of the imagination.
No, it's hideous, but I think we still have the issue of ensuring there's a distinction between being charged and being convicted.

thetapeworm

11,225 posts

239 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Getragdogleg said:
As the parent of a one year old I actually find the whole thing thing leaves me feeling very very uneasy, My little girl is just that, very little, very venerable, tiny, innocent and utterly trusting. The idea of someone doing that to her fills me with a very sick feeling indeed.

This guy is accused of being the text book definition of a Pedophile, not someone who has been caught touching a randy 15 year old.

It makes me shiver what some people are capable of.
Exactly that, my (just turned) one year old is asleep next door, full of innocence and potential, how someone could even think about doing this sort of thing is beyond me (thank god!).


PugwasHDJ80

7,529 posts

221 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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just WTF

ignoring this chap for a minute (because he is still innocent).

there is nothing in my life that alllows me to imagine being able to begin to even understand how this enters anyones field of sexual need.

Can anyone enlighten me what the basis of this proclivity is all about? As a father of a 3 month old baby it makes me feel quite sick, but i would still like to understand it.....