Creeping destruction of England.

[gvb]

Point 1/.I look around me and see nonsensical Health and Safety rules being implemented, also MPs/BBC Executives and numerous big businesses taking us taxpayers for every penny they can. Point 2/.Famous people are being outed as possibly being guilty of sexual offences years ago.Point 3/.In addition to this we have followers of various religions all insisting that theirs is the only way. Point 4/. Being heterosexual seems to be old fashioned and almost against "the rules". Point 5/. We bow down in subservience to Europe and consequently we get stuck (at great cost) with terrorists in our prisons and multitudes of unwanted/illegal immigrants all claiming benefits.

The sooner UKIP takes power the better!

[_Batty_]

Are you editor for 'The Daily Mail'?

[FlauM]

18 posts in nearly 2years? Hi.

[ZOLLAR]

gvb said:

Some points I'd like to discuss.

1. I look around me and see nonsensical Health and Safety rules being implemented, also MPs/BBC Executives and numerous big businesses taking us taxpayers for every penny they can.

2. Famous people are being outed as possibly being guilty of sexual offences years ago.

3. In addition to this we have followers of various religions all insisting that theirs is the only way.

4. Being heterosexual seems to be old fashioned and almost against "the rules".

5. We bow down in subservience to Europe and consequently we get stuck (at great cost) with terrorists in our prisons and multitudes of unwanted/illegal immigrants all claiming benefits.

The sooner UKIP takes power the better!

Ah much better.

[Eric Mc]

gvb said:

The sooner UKIP takes power the better!

I hope you mean by democratic methods?

[obob]

So pedos getting outed is bad? And UKIP will stop them being outed?

[Drivel]

facepalm

[craigjm]

I dont get all this fawning over UKIP. what do they really stand for beyond getting out of the EU? where are the in depth statistical calculations that actually show that we would be better off out of the EU? and finally, WTF has UKIP got to do with outing of peado's etc?

[rohrl]

gvb said:

Point 1/.I look around me and see nonsensical Health and Safety rules being implemented,

Really, or do you read inaccurate stories about Elf'n'Safety written by the likes of Richard Littlejohn? Ask a steelworker about Health and Safety regulations.

gvb said:

also MPs/BBC Executives and numerous big businesses taking us taxpayers for every penny they can.

I'm confused how this can be part of point 1; MP's, BBC execs and "numerous big businesses" are strange bedfollows let alone with H&S regs. I take it that you believe MP's are paid too much and/or claim too much in expenses, BBC execs are overpaid and some companies either pay their staff too much or overcharge for products and services. I'm afraid to say that this all comes under the heading of "No st Sherlock".

gvb said:

Point 2/.Famous people are being outed as possibly being guilty of sexual offences years ago.

Is this a complaint? If so is your complaint that the statute of limitations is too long or that famous people are being investigated?

gvb said:

Point 3/.In addition to this we have followers of various religions all insisting that theirs is the only way.

What on earth do you expect? That's their job; the Chief Rabbi is hardly about to stand up and declare that the Pope had it right all along is he?

gvb said:

Point 4/. Being heterosexual seems to be old fashioned and almost against "the rules".

Hogwash. Society is more tolerant of homosexuality now than it used to be, though treatment under the law is still unequal.

gvb said:

Point 5/. We bow down in subservience to Europe and consequently we get stuck (at great cost) with terrorists in our prisons and multitudes of unwanted/illegal immigrants all claiming benefits.

By Europe do you mean the EU, the other countries in Europe or the ECHR? Do bear in mind that a lot of the time blaming "Europe" is an easy line for a UK politician to take because the hard-of-thinking will lap it up.

gvb said:

The sooner UKIP takes power the better!

If you say so, though I suspect you'll be waiting a while and your utopian dreams longer still.

[Terminator X]

It's always been st and will remain so ... Change what you can, forget about the rest.

TX.

[trashbat]

I don't think even the OP believes this one.

[Derek Smith]

rohrl said:

gvb said:

Point 1/.I look around me and see nonsensical Health and Safety rules being implemented,

Really, or do you read inaccurate stories about Elf'n'Safety written by the likes of Richard Littlejohn? Ask a steelworker about Health and Safety regulations.

gvb said:

also MPs/BBC Executives and numerous big businesses taking us taxpayers for every penny they can.

I'm confused how this can be part of point 1; MP's, BBC execs and "numerous big businesses" are strange bedfollows let alone with H&S regs. I take it that you believe MP's are paid too much and/or claim too much in expenses, BBC execs are overpaid and some companies either pay their staff too much or overcharge for products and services. I'm afraid to say that this all comes under the heading of "No st Sherlock".

gvb said:

Point 2/.Famous people are being outed as possibly being guilty of sexual offences years ago.

Is this a complaint? If so is your complaint that the statute of limitations is too long or that famous people are being investigated?

gvb said:

Point 3/.In addition to this we have followers of various religions all insisting that theirs is the only way.

What on earth do you expect? That's their job; the Chief Rabbi is hardly about to stand up and declare that the Pope had it right all along is he?

gvb said:

Point 4/. Being heterosexual seems to be old fashioned and almost against "the rules".

Hogwash. Society is more tolerant of homosexuality now than it used to be, though treatment under the law is still unequal.

gvb said:

Point 5/. We bow down in subservience to Europe and consequently we get stuck (at great cost) with terrorists in our prisons and multitudes of unwanted/illegal immigrants all claiming benefits.

By Europe do you mean the EU, the other countries in Europe or the ECHR? Do bear in mind that a lot of the time blaming "Europe" is an easy line for a UK politician to take because the hard-of-thinking will lap it up.

gvb said:

The sooner UKIP takes power the better!

If you say so, though I suspect you'll be waiting a while and your utopian dreams longer still.

When you go out to destroy a post, your give it both barrels, don't you.

[Eric Mc]

Nuked from orbit even.

And quite effectively too.

[MOTORVATOR]

rohrl said:

gvb said:

Point 4/. Being heterosexual seems to be old fashioned and almost against "the rules".

Hogwash. Society is more tolerant of homosexuality now than it used to be, though treatment under the law is still unequal.

Hogwash? Love to see your justification of that one.

[gvb]

rohrl said:

gvb said:

Point 1/.I look around me and see nonsensical Health and Safety rules being implemented,

Really, or do you read inaccurate stories about Elf'n'Safety written by the likes of Richard Littlejohn? Ask a steelworker about Health and Safety regulations.

gvb said:

also MPs/BBC Executives and numerous big businesses taking us taxpayers for every penny they can.

I'm confused how this can be part of point 1; MP's, BBC execs and "numerous big businesses" are strange bedfollows let alone with H&S regs. I take it that you believe MP's are paid too much and/or claim too much in expenses, BBC execs are overpaid and some companies either pay their staff too much or overcharge for products and services. I'm afraid to say that this all comes under the heading of "No st Sherlock".

gvb said:

Point 2/.Famous people are being outed as possibly being guilty of sexual offences years ago.

Is this a complaint? If so is your complaint that the statute of limitations is too long or that famous people are being investigated?

gvb said:

Point 3/.In addition to this we have followers of various religions all insisting that theirs is the only way.

What on earth do you expect? That's their job; the Chief Rabbi is hardly about to stand up and declare that the Pope had it right all along is he?

gvb said:

Point 4/. Being heterosexual seems to be old fashioned and almost against "the rules".

Hogwash. Society is more tolerant of homosexuality now than it used to be, though treatment under the law is still unequal.

gvb said:

Point 5/. We bow down in subservience to Europe and consequently we get stuck (at great cost) with terrorists in our prisons and multitudes of unwanted/illegal immigrants all claiming benefits.

By Europe do you mean the EU, the other countries in Europe or the ECHR? Do bear in mind that a lot of the time blaming "Europe" is an easy line for a UK politician to take because the hard-of-thinking will lap it up.

gvb said:

The sooner UKIP takes power the better!

If you say so, though I suspect you'll be waiting a while and your utopian dreams longer still.

Point 1/. I don't need to ask a steelworker, I worked in local Government for 43 years.
Point 1/. Continued:- I was referring to big payouts for BBC Execs and big business tax evasion.Whether it comes under the heading of "No st sherlock" or not doesn't alter the fact that it is wrong.
Point 2/. Of course sexual offences are wrong no matter who or when is involved. It just seems to add to the general degeneration of English crime levels.
Point 3/. As someone who is not in the slightest bit religeous I would just prefer that all these purveyors of fairy stories discuss it in their own circles and don't bore me with it.
Point 4/. On this point it will have to suffice for me to say that just like you I have an opinion regarding homosexuality. Mine, I would be fairly sure is somewhat different to yours.
Point 5/. ECHR for terrorists, EU as in Brussels to cover the other points. There you go, wasn't too difficult was it?

[trashbat]

First they came for the straight, middle class, reasonably well off white males, and I did not speak out because of sleep paralysis.

[DonkeyApple]

Derek Smith said:

rohrl said:

gvb said:

Point 1/.I look around me and see nonsensical Health and Safety rules being implemented,

Really, or do you read inaccurate stories about Elf'n'Safety written by the likes of Richard Littlejohn? Ask a steelworker about Health and Safety regulations.

gvb said:

also MPs/BBC Executives and numerous big businesses taking us taxpayers for every penny they can.

I'm confused how this can be part of point 1; MP's, BBC execs and "numerous big businesses" are strange bedfollows let alone with H&S regs. I take it that you believe MP's are paid too much and/or claim too much in expenses, BBC execs are overpaid and some companies either pay their staff too much or overcharge for products and services. I'm afraid to say that this all comes under the heading of "No st Sherlock".

gvb said:

Point 2/.Famous people are being outed as possibly being guilty of sexual offences years ago.

Is this a complaint? If so is your complaint that the statute of limitations is too long or that famous people are being investigated?

gvb said:

Point 3/.In addition to this we have followers of various religions all insisting that theirs is the only way.

What on earth do you expect? That's their job; the Chief Rabbi is hardly about to stand up and declare that the Pope had it right all along is he?

gvb said:

Point 4/. Being heterosexual seems to be old fashioned and almost against "the rules".

Hogwash. Society is more tolerant of homosexuality now than it used to be, though treatment under the law is still unequal.

gvb said:

Point 5/. We bow down in subservience to Europe and consequently we get stuck (at great cost) with terrorists in our prisons and multitudes of unwanted/illegal immigrants all claiming benefits.

By Europe do you mean the EU, the other countries in Europe or the ECHR? Do bear in mind that a lot of the time blaming "Europe" is an easy line for a UK politician to take because the hard-of-thinking will lap it up.

gvb said:

The sooner UKIP takes power the better!

If you say so, though I suspect you'll be waiting a while and your utopian dreams longer still.

When you go out to destroy a post, your give it both barrels, don't you.

It was such a well thought out post as well. Definitely one that could have run for months with lots of interesting posts.

[Justin Cyder]

I love guys like you GVB. I live in the same country, don't feel any of the pain you do. I'm highly educated, work for myself & have done successfully for ten years. It's all good baby.

Life is a series of decisions. Provided you make more good ones than bad, you'll be OK. One of the decisions I made was not to be suckered in by the bullst Daily Mail rhetoric of half truths & outright lies. You're tortured by your own perceptions.

Good, fking serves you right, it might teach you to think for yourself but I doubt it somehow.

[Drivel]

Couldn't have said it better ^

[cymtriks]

gvb said:

I look around me and see nonsensical Health and Safety rules being implemented

What is your problem? Is it that there are more important things to concentrate on (given that we already have plenty of rules to follow) or is it a concern to little is being left to personal responsibility and common sense?

gvb said:

MPs/BBC Executives and numerous big businesses taking us taxpayers for every penny they can.

You can't blame big business for doing that, the rules allow it and it wouldn't happen if it was more profitable to actually make a profit in the UK.

gvb said:

Famous people are being outed as possibly being guilty of sexual offences years ago.

Time itself is not an issue.

Accusing people of serious offences that, due to the passage of time, or due to the accused being dead, there is no defence against, or likelihood of punishment for, seems pointless.

I suppose that is your point?

gvb said:

In addition to this we have followers of various religions all insisting that theirs is the only way.

This has always been the case and generally isn't a problem.

Only a tiny minority of people in religious groups actually advocate some sort of religious conflict. You won't find a single example of a religious conflict in history in which there wasn't a fairly obvious non-religious cause or aim. Funny that, could it be that our leaders have used religion to rally the troops and then let religion take the blame rather than them...

gvb said:

Being heterosexual seems to be old fashioned and almost against "the rules".

Being gay is tolerated more than it used to be now but this has changed throughout all of history, society's attitude drifting from one extreme to the other and back again over the centuries.

Family life though is under attack, more by accident than by design. The idea of staying together has become less fashionable, the media portray family breakdown as entertainment (modern soaps) but this would have been shocking a few decades ago.

gvb said:

We bow down in subservience to Europe and consequently we get stuck (at great cost) with terrorists in our prisons and multitudes of unwanted/illegal immigrants all claiming benefits.

A lot of this we bring on ourselves. If this is a problem caused by Europe why do you think we get this any more than any other EU country?